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ExcessBLarg!
Sep 1, 2001

Snackmar posted:

Would you mind sharing which other games you tried this with?
Off hand, the DOOM and Quake remasters. Not that saves for either of those titles are particularly important since you can just level warp, but I wanted to pull up my completed campaign saves for completeness anyways.

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Heran Bago
Aug 18, 2006



TotK is better on Deck than Switch, but on a Gaming PC is even better.
It's kind of random what doesn't work though. Had to play Kirby and the Forgotten Land on Switch, which was perfectly fine. And Smash Ultimate offline is no good.

Big benefit of copying your Switch games to something else is it frees up the Switch for family members.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

My friend and I set up a family sharing thing with Steam and he thought "Honkers Railway" (which I had added to Steam as a non-Steam game to play on the Deck) sounded like a porn thing lol

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

he;s right

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Is Pacific Drive good? It looks good. Someone in the Subnautica thread said they got similar vibes from it, and I do love the roguelike "just one more run!" flow with meta progression.

I like all those elements, and I like weird driving games, so the elements are there, but does it pull them off well, all together?

Dramicus
Mar 26, 2010
Grimey Drawer

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Is Pacific Drive good? It looks good. Someone in the Subnautica thread said they got similar vibes from it, and I do love the roguelike "just one more run!" flow with meta progression.

I like all those elements, and I like weird driving games, so the elements are there, but does it pull them off well, all together?

The driving side of things is mostly superficial (for good or ill, it's up to your taste) so don't go into it expecting to do any real car maintenance stuff. You mostly just have HP bars on the panels that you refill between runs with magic playdough. It's mostly there for flavor.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Dramicus posted:

The driving side of things is mostly superficial (for good or ill, it's up to your taste) so don't go into it expecting to do any real car maintenance stuff. You mostly just have HP bars on the panels that you refill between runs with magic playdough. It's mostly there for flavor.

I'm not fanatical about cars, so that sounds right. I loved Forza 4 for both how nice it looked but also how I had the potential to make any decal I wanted on my car. I should have made the Ecto-1. I wasn't there for the realism.

Atoramos
Aug 31, 2003

Jim's now a Blind Cave Salamander!


I think it's quite fun, I hated how cludgey the sub was in Subnautica and the car is a good way to handle having all your things in one mobile place. Very much a game about listening to tunes in the garage while you customize your car, or listening to those same tunes as your car flips upsidedown because you careened down a mountain trying to make it back to the garage in time.

It runs alright on the Deck, roughly 30 on low settings and you can probably optimize it further.

Fucking Moron
Jan 9, 2009

Anyone know what the best version of proton to use with Project Zomboid?

I am finally trying to test more stuff out to see just how many mods I can get away with running.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


If you're the kind of weirdo (like me) who uses Steam Remote Play, be warned that a bug that breaks it and causes the stream to be stuck on the loading screen is in the Steam Deck client update that rolled out to the stable channel yesterday. This bug was in the preview and beta channels too and multiple people flagged it and Valve ignored them.

Remote Play still works if you run it from Steam in desktop mode for some reason.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Well, the Wii Remote did work and was very easy to set up. Unfortunately the nunchuck seems to be bugged to absolute gently caress on the Deck, so I'll have to work out the reason for that. I tried Sin & Punishment 2 and it worked flawlessly on Windows, but on Deck the second I tapped a button on the nunchuck the entire control setup went ballistically wrong in any number of different ways each time - the stick registering different directions seemingly at random, forcing certain buttons permanently on, things like that. As long as I didn't press a button on the nunchuck it was fine, even the nunchuck stick worked. Hit a button though and hoo baby. Aiming was fine throughout, unsurprisingly.

Very odd, hopefully there's a fix. I can't see any videos of people using the nunchuck on the Deck, just the Wii Remote, so I suspect they ran into the same problem.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Heran Bago posted:

TotK is better on Deck than Switch

There is no way this is true but people keep saying it

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Looking forward to playing some Dark Forces Remastered, how does it do on God's One True Handheld?

Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty

Beve Stuscemi posted:

There is no way this is true but people keep saying it

I haven't tried it personally, but given the fact that the Switch uses a mobile chipset that was outdated when it launched I wouldn't be at all surprised.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




People said the same thing about the Wii U version of botw and it was never better on deck

The switch versions are more taxing still

Hardcastlemccormik
Jul 19, 2022

Beastie posted:

Looking forward to playing some Dark Forces Remastered, how does it do on God's One True Handheld?

DF said it ran great. As with every other nightdive game, I would be shocked if the deck wasn’t the best place to play it.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Beve Stuscemi posted:

People said the same thing about the Wii U version of botw and it was never better on deck

The switch versions are more taxing still

We need to relocate Digital Foundry to international waters so they can sort this out for once and for all.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Marry a cow and pirate botw

Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty
Fire Emblem (both of them) run better on my Deck than my Switch when comparing handheld mode to handheld mode.

Shart Carbuncle
Aug 4, 2004

Star Trek:
The Motion Picture

Party Boat posted:

If you're the kind of weirdo (like me) who uses Steam Remote Play, be warned that a bug that breaks it and causes the stream to be stuck on the loading screen is in the Steam Deck client update that rolled out to the stable channel yesterday. This bug was in the preview and beta channels too and multiple people flagged it and Valve ignored them.

Remote Play still works if you run it from Steam in desktop mode for some reason.

God drat it, i switched to stable to get around that poo poo.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
People in this thread really overrate how well the switch can run its games

Hardcastlemccormik
Jul 19, 2022
Digital Foundry is pretty much the only place I trust to say a game actually runs well/great.

“Works great on my machine” posts the gamer on every forum as they observe a game dropping to 17 fps and hitching for seconds at a time

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
Why is it that totally unsupported on the steam deck Bstman Arkham Origins runs incredibly well and 'great on the deck' Icewind Dale Enhanced Edition plays loving terribly

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



Wolfsheim posted:

Why is it that totally unsupported on the steam deck Bstman Arkham Origins runs incredibly well and 'great on the deck' Icewind Dale Enhanced Edition plays loving terribly
Because the Valve ratings are a joke and you should be looking at the ProtonDB ratings instead. Another one is that Tales of Berseria is "Unsupported" on Steam and Gold in ProtonDB and AFAICT the game works fine. Another thing is that the ProtonDB ratings are a bit more granular than the Valve ratings (like how "Playable" covers everything from "you might have to open the on-screen keyboard to name your character" to "every bug under the sun, but you can technically get from beginning to end") so even if the Valve ratings are correct you get more info from the ProtonDB ratings.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Hardcastlemccormik posted:

Digital Foundry is pretty much the only place I trust to say a game actually runs well/great.

“Works great on my machine” posts the gamer on every forum as they observe a game dropping to 17 fps and hitching for seconds at a time
My favourite example of this was someone posting to Reddit saying they’d gotten God of War 3 running “perfectly” and it was the most unplayably unstable frame rate I’ve seen since I was trying to play Deus Ex on my eMachines shitbox.

Commander Keene posted:

Another one is that Tales of Berseria is "Unsupported" on Steam and Gold in ProtonDB and AFAICT the game works fine.
I played the entire game on Deck and can confirm it was flawless the whole time with very long battery life.

Hardcastlemccormik
Jul 19, 2022
I find myself mostly enjoying games on the Deck where I can lower the TDP to 7 or lower and they still run well. Especially since I have an LCD model, which perhaps is noisier and hotter than average, though who can say.

JRPG’s seem to be the sweet spot for that. I should try some of those Tales games. The Deck was my Persona 5 Royal machine last year. This evening I fired up .hack GU Last Recode and lost a few hours all of a sudden.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Shart Carbuncle posted:

God drat it, i switched to stable to get around that poo poo.

Fortunately they released another update a couple of minutes after your post: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1675200/view/4124805233776542002

Not had a chance to try it yet

Syenite
Jun 21, 2011
Grimey Drawer

CharlestheHammer posted:

People in this thread really overrate how well the switch can run its games

It's unreal to me how games specifically designed to run on 1 specific set of hardware can perform like poo poo.

Heran Bago
Aug 18, 2006



Beve Stuscemi posted:

There is no way this is true but people keep saying it

I mean I tried it.

It's worse than the Switch in the sense that it's a relative PITA to set up. You need Emudeck to install a thing for gyro to work and then configure it in Yuzu. There's an optimizer now that configures Yuzu for this game specifically. A good start but I wanted to tweak settings further. Also tapping physical amiibo vs a menu could be a deal breaker I guess.

OLED Deck at least does marginally better in the sense of stuff like frame rate, or mods if you care. If you want it 1:1 like the Switch then sure it can be just identical to it.
When the game launched this wasn't really the case. Game is stable and doesn't chug at shader compilation for solid minutes anymore.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Annath posted:

I haven't tried it personally, but given the fact that the Switch uses a mobile chipset that was outdated when it launched I wouldn't be at all surprised.

No poo poo you haven’t tried it personally

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

It runs bad on deck

Vic
Nov 26, 2009

malae fidei cum XI_XXVI_MMIX
I'm seeing it being just emulator quality with yuzu and people are playing botw wiiU version on cemu with details cranked up even beyond switch levels.

It's not a hardware problem just emulation problem so it's just time and effort on the part of people who're working on this in their spare time.

I like switch but having and playing all my games on one device with a better controller is a quality in itself.

I have my switch for when nephews visit with their tiny grubby hands.

Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty

Quantum of Phallus posted:

No poo poo you haven’t tried it personally

Despite your username, it's generally best to *not* be a dick.

Given that other Switch games with as much or more going on on screen run fine on the Deck, and given the Switch itself is extremely underpowered, it's OK to draw inferences about how other Switch games might run.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


No it really isn't because that's not how emulation works, it always requires significantly more power than the original hardware has and the Deck is not far enough ahead of the Switch to consistently consistently do it. Link's Awakening performs worse unless you run it at lower resolution than the Switch, Super Mario Odyssey is unplayable once you hit the later worlds and Luigi's Mansion 3 is completely broken. Don't take your emulation performance markers from people on Youtube who play the least demanding part of a game for 20 minutes and declare the performance perfect. If you want another thing to judge, the Deck is orders of magnitude more powerful than the Xbox and PS3, and yet many of those games also won't run well when emulated.

Annath
Jan 11, 2009

Batatouille is a great and funny play on words for a video game creature and I love silly words like these
Clever Betty
Link's Awakening runs fine for me. Occasionally it has a brief hitch when crossing what in the original game would have been a screen transition, but it does that on my Switch as well.

Apparently there's some interesting fuckery going on behind the scenes where the game still detects those transitions. I think they pulled the map data from the original and never removed those tags/triggers.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

njsykora posted:

No it really isn't because that's not how emulation works

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Wolfsheim posted:

Why is it that totally unsupported on the steam deck Bstman Arkham Origins runs incredibly well and 'great on the deck' Icewind Dale Enhanced Edition plays loving terribly

Doom 2 is either Verified or playable, but Doom 1 isn't.

They're the same. They both play great. Who the gently caress knows what's going on.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


If I remember right there was some fuckery with Bethesda accounts that kept Doom from working early on, it probably just hasn't gotten reassessed since.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Half Life episode 1 still isn't verified :shrug:

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Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

njsykora posted:

If I remember right there was some fuckery with Bethesda accounts that kept Doom from working early on, it probably just hasn't gotten reassessed since.

That was a big pain in the rear end when it got released a few years back across all platforms. It took me a stupid long time to get logged into the Switch version. I think they got rid of that. I installed the current Steam release of the original Doom a few weeks ago and didn’t have to log in or do anything.

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