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the unabonger posted:Hooo boy is the arc thrower fun, and also very easy to do team damage with. How's the arc thrower vs armor? IVe only played with it the few times I found it randomly on maps, and I keep hearing conflicting reports.
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Fishstick posted:How's the arc thrower vs armor? IVe only played with it the few times I found it randomly on maps, and I keep hearing conflicting reports. Seems to ignore armor but generally armored things also have a lot of hp so one doesn't do much.
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rideANDxORdie posted:Knowing that armor isn't currently working as intended (hoping it will be akin to HD1 once fixed) I'm a bit surprised they didn't fix it on this Tuesday's patch. I know the first two weeks they have been all hands on deck with the server/backend issues, but I understand that people who takes care of the backend isn't the same who have to look at the gameplay code that does 'raw damage - armor equipped = net damage'. Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Feb 29, 2024 |
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Turin Turambar posted:I'm a bit surprised they didn't fix it on this Tuesday's patch. I know the first two weeks they have been all hands with the backend issues, but I understand that people who takes care of the backend isn't the same who have to look at the gameplay code that does 'raw damage - armor equipped = net damage'. There's a lot of different systems at play - not least of which all the different damage types. How does fire or bug puke interact with armor? Does the enemy have any weapons which are designated as "Medium Armor Piercing" or such? Does Armor increase HP or soak damage or do a percentage reduction of it? (ie. would it make sense if you could just stand there whilst 30 Scavenger Bugs do zero damage to you?) Given that, frankly, the way armor and weak spots and damage types is already a little imperfect on the enemies, I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was an even more complicated problem the other way and one they had sidestepped for launch. They might have answers to all these questoins, and it could be there are actually 43 different listed bugs in their database for player armor - and the short term way to solve all of them was just to commnt it out and have it not exist. Fixing each of those edge cases or finding a new holistic solution might not be as simple as it seems.
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Unlocked the JAR Dominator from the premium warbond pack and...it's a gun? Yes it's definitely a gun? Seems to be some sort of rocket rifle. 16 rounds. Semi-auto standard, and you can set it to burst which gives it a slow auto-mode that limits after 3 rounds. One shots the chaff bots but you're going to want some heavier firepower if the berserkers start ambling towards you.
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Alkydere posted:Unlocked the JAR Dominator from the premium warbond pack and...it's a gun? Yes it's definitely a gun? I think the thing that kills it for me - aside from not being explosive damage??? - is the thing is so goddamn slow. It takes aaaages to settle down when you're aiming it, nigh-useless in close quarters.
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Alkydere posted:Unlocked the JAR Dominator from the premium warbond pack and...it's a gun? Yes it's definitely a gun? gently caress yeah a bolter
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Also the same round I was trying that out we were having fun destroying all the bots coming at us as we extracted. It was only Haz 3 so just kind of fun. Only about 5 minutes later we realized we forgot to actually start the dropship timer and we'd been blowing up random patrols. raverrn posted:I think the thing that kills it for me - aside from not being explosive damage??? - is the thing is so goddamn slow. It takes aaaages to settle down when you're aiming it, nigh-useless in close quarters. Yeah, it kicks like a mule, takes forever to recenter and missing a round is so punishing that it feels like you have to ADS.
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Spookydonut posted:in quickplay came across a few people who are just running the defense missions on the defend campaign worlds with the intention to let it fail and only focusing on collecting/farming samples -_- It's also that defense operations frequently have "kill X bots" missions and always have "defend scientist evac" missions and both of those suck. I'm frequently playing bot missions but actively choosing to avoid the Defend planets because of that.
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Mainwaring posted:All this meta talk made me want to try something a bit funky so I ran ballistic shield + defender + am rifle in a bot mission. It was actually pretty fun, not sure if it was necessarily good but I at least felt effective. Ballistic Shield should let you plant it to make impromptu cover, like a pavise:  You'd still have the downside of only being able to use an SMG or other onehand weapon when wearing it (and after planting it, I guess), but now other people can benefit too.
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You should be able to ride the ballistic shield down inclines like a snowboard, and colliding into a teammate should ragdoll you both into the stratosphere, imo. Then I'd use it.
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Honestly going back to the Dominator after using the slugger... it feels not great, basically every downside of the Slugger but half the damage and handles like the autocannon... it's inability to one shot headshot Devestators makes it feel especially bad after using the Slugger.
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Fishstick posted:Ballistic Shield should let you plant it to make impromptu cover, like a pavise: Being able to set up an impromptu snipers nest with it would be super rad!
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the unabonger posted:Hooo boy is the arc thrower fun, and also very easy to do team damage with. Fishstick posted:How's the arc thrower vs armor? IVe only played with it the few times I found it randomly on maps, and I keep hearing conflicting reports.
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Fishstick posted:Ballistic Shield should let you plant it to make impromptu cover, like a pavise: The ballistic shield needs a ton of love, especially since the energy shield backpack is capable of doing everything the former does but in a 360-degree radius, without taking up a droppable hand slot, and without affecting your run speed to be fully-effective.
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https://x.com/lookatmymeat1/status/1763039400097640865?s=46&t=I-gsjpvNkUNcOBofs8OOkQ Mech fuel can’t melt steel beams
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Play posted:Does anyone think they made the higher difficulties a little less punishing? With decent teammates was breezing through 7 and 8. Closer to launch those missions were absolute mayhem and seemed like there were more enemies. Or am I just imagining that The better you are, the less often enemies will have a chance to bring in reinforcements. So the better you play the less enemies there will be!
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I hope that Game Master Joel, for his own sake, is not actually a single person and they just invented a guy for people to get mad at. Just some L4D Director typed character that the divers that the divers can scream out in anger when a planet falls, made even more funny by the fact that his name is "Joel". E. Looking at LinkedIn it's probably Joel Hakalax, a designer that works there that "specializes in player retention", but I like my headcanon better. CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Feb 29, 2024 |
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So, the people who farm defense missions aren't losing the war, but they aren't really contributing, either. The problem is the defense missions tend to get paid with a civilian extraction mission that is almost impossible to do at high difficulties with pub players because it requires 3 people to bait everyone outside the civ compound while one person pushes the buttons.
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loving the game, started less than a week ago and it whips obvs just had the no rewards bug, though, on a mission we spent the whole timer full clearing and wow did that put a damper on things
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For me, progression in the game is incidental. I just enjoy blowing up bugs and bots, especially with friends!
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fun fact 1: Chargers colliding with eachother damage eachothers armor fun fact 2: Jump packs let you (just barely) jump over chargers Use this information for some Looney Tunes bullshit Chopstick Dystopia posted:loving the game, started less than a week ago and it whips obvs It's possible it shows up later (without notification or anything). I had a couple times where I would login later and my medal count just increased.
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Please add rocket launchers with the ability to rocket jump.
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Anyone else getting an error screen on initial load/login that just reads "-1" currently?
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Siffl posted:Anyone else getting an error screen on initial load/login that just reads "-1" currently? Yep, Its on discord as a known issue as of 10 minutes ago
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Fishstick posted:Yep, Its on discord as a known issue as of 10 minutes ago The Discord was full >.<
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Insert name here posted:The AMR takes those out pretty fast too, even though it isn't explosive, since it can shoot as fast as you can click. Not always the most practical to set up though One of the best parts of this is justifying my disappointment with the penetrator against armored vents. "+2 Penetrator magazines, close combat.... Yeah, better not bother."
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ijyt posted:curious new weapon any time ive seen this in game its someone using a trainer had a guy with pink question mark throwing orbital lasers like candy but its really just a missing or unloaded asset so could just be a bug
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Jerkface posted:any time ive seen this in game its someone using a trainer I don't think they were, it was a pretty normal round. I just noticed the bulldog above them so I'm wondering if it's the re-arming backpack not loading in.
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Speaking of Bulldog, what's with the guy getting stuck right on top of your head doing nothing? Only fix I can tell is to call a new one in.
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Its a bug, sometimes, for some reason, your support weapon will come in as a big purple questionmark, or you can just ... spawn with it attached to you. When this happens you get the infinite strategems thing happening to you so it looks a lot like cheating but it comes from an actual bug - usually can't fire any other weapons though.
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Dinosaurs! posted:Was this last night? A couple of my IRL friends got the game and I’ve been running low difficulty missions with them while they get the hang of the mechanics. It’s a little slow goings, so instead of obliterating everything with stratagems and running objectives quick I hang back and kind of babysit the chaff bugs while they practice blowing stuff up. Nah, it wasn't me but if I was rolling with people on my Friends list I wouldn't really care, either. At this point I'm L35+, have all the strats, have many of the weapons, and really don't mind collecting more basic samples (you'll always need them) so I'm happy to roll a low-level mission with friends and have a good time. I just get very crestfallen because I wind up bringing a loadout to handle the big dogs when I could've had real fun and brought an MG instead 
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Fishstick posted:Hellbombs still continue to be a big source of frustration to me. Propaganda towers you can grenade or shoot the tv tower only. For the research stations you just need to destroy the grey building. It’s easier to hit them from range or with an eagle from 75m away than to get up close and hellbomb them though. Alkydere posted:Unlocked the JAR Dominator from the premium warbond pack and...it's a gun? Yes it's definitely a gun? This weapon is excellent for bots, dare I say the best primary against bots. Maybe the plasma gun is comparable.
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Fishstick posted:Ei: Don't get me started on those bot Eye of Sauron towers with their "nope no strategem balls on this ground lol" terrain You can totally take out Detector towers with stratagems - they're the ones with the big red dot slowly sweeping across the terrain until they catch a Helldiver in their field of view. It's Scrambler towers that nope all of your stratagems in a certain radius. Risky Bisquick posted:This weapon [Dominator] is excellent for bots, dare I say the best primary against bots. Maybe the plasma gun is comparable. 
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Used the Scorcher last night. Give it medium pen and itll be ok. Otherwise, lol. Dominator needs better handling. Arc Thrower is indeed decent, was pleasantly surprised!
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Dandywalken posted:Used the Scorcher last night. Give it medium pen and itll be ok. Otherwise, lol. Treat the JAR as a DMR without a scope, suddenly it’s valuable. If you don’t aim for the squishy parts it does not work at all. Works great on bots 8, I’ll check helldive tonight but probably the same tbh. For bugs you literally only want the breaker or incendiary breaker. There’s just too much trash to deal with to fiddle with something like the JAR.
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The travel time on the Dominator's projectiles just makes it way too awkward to use in a firefight. It's like a semi-auto version of the plasma gun from Quake 3 but with a smaller projectile. Maybe the numbers on it are good but I'll never find out because it feels so bad to use. If I want a single-shot medium range high damage gun with no scope I'll just use the Slugger
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