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Yet another jaw-droppingly horrifying statistic for the list: https://x.com/medicalaidpal/status/1763172220900151317?s=46&t=ARI_L-v32Oind1-d9B3a3Q
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https://www.axios.com/2024/03/01/biden-gaza-airdrops-aid-israel-hamas US aid air drops starting Soon to help work around the, ahem, logistical barriers to land deliveries. also some cranky rhetoric about the land blockade etc
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# ? Mar 1, 2024 23:54 |
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the us is airdropping food to a place besieged by a us ally, using guns and bombs made in the us
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Nebalebadingdong posted:the us is airdropping food to a place besieged by a us ally, using guns and bombs made in the us
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Dante80 posted:You really don't have to be graphic to become deeply horrifying, as far as this subject is concerned. This reminds me of pictures of Nazi soldiers taking photos with hanged captives. This is beyond belief.
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# ? Mar 2, 2024 01:29 |
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Dante80 posted:You really don't have to be graphic to become deeply horrifying, as far as this subject is concerned. Just the sheer joy that they get showing their cruelty to the world.
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Nebalebadingdong posted:the us is airdropping food to a place besieged by a us ally, using guns and bombs made in the us It’s a desperate ploy by Biden to looking like he’s Doing Something about a problem he’s incredibly responsible for, in a way that can’t possibly meet the actual needs of the people of Gaza.
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# ? Mar 2, 2024 02:03 |
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It's really twisted, giving scraps to the people you're helping to starve. It makes Biden seem even more inhuman to me. The depravity just keeps getting deeper.
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Nebalebadingdong posted:the us is airdropping food to a place besieged by a us ally, using guns and bombs made in the us Yeah, it's weak theater. They have nothing else to offer. Press briefings are just an exercise in cynicism ("What, us interfere in another country's doings? Perish the thought! The US of A has NEVER engaged in sanctions, aid supension, blockades and embargoes? Stop talking crazy, we're just smol beans.") at this point, any pretense of working for a ceasefire is immediately shat upon by Bibi of Ben-Gvir posting 'Waaagh exterminate the brutes skulls for the skull throne!' the day after. All they have left is creating factoids for the media to bounce around for a few days, while letting Israel do what it wants. See, we're not genocide enablers, we sent like five tons of cheerio's to Khan Younes!
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Retired US diplomat: https://twitter.com/fordrs58/status/1763649504018841699 It's a good point; airdrops are for countries you're not on good terms with or bordered by enemies, it's insanely inefficient, unreliable, small payload. The implicit suggestion is that the US is not a good enough ally to just drive in. It makes the administration look more feeble than it already is when it's proudly touting that it's on the same allied terms as Egypt and Jordan. Honestly worse, Egypt's trucking supplies in. E: The optimistic interpretation is that Israel is more comfortable bombing Egyptian drivers than American drivers, but saying that aloud would make it clear how beyond the pale Israel is. Neurolimal fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Mar 2, 2024 |
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Neurolimal posted:Retired US diplomat: Yeah I would buy that this is Biden taking the best of a slate of bad options only if the air drops came with an explicit moratorium on arms shipments. As it is, he should be able to coerce Israel into allowing US sponsored aid across any crossing they control. He needs to be doing far more.
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It’s such a transparently calculated bare-minimum to point to for the optics
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I remember a lot of the oppo against trump was talking about how he was bowing down to dictators and kissing Putin and Kim jong-un on the lips. Biden being walked all over by netanyahu looks even worse, it makes him look weak and pathetic while at the same time also being bloodthirsty and callous. Just an absolute shambles of a presidency.
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# ? Mar 2, 2024 06:57 |
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Listen folks, we're all looking for the guys supplying these weapons. In the meantime we're dropping in all the supplies we can as our dearest ally says that they'll explode our aid trucks. Who are we to tell them what to do.
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The US could just cut out the middleman and airdrop supplies with preloaded bombs for more efficient complicity in the genocide.
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nimby posted:The US could just cut out the middleman and airdrop supplies with preloaded bombs for more efficient complicity in the genocide. Bibi would just get on TV and complain that some of the supplies survive the explosion and demand we replace them with rusty nails and barrels of agent orange.
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Your Brain on Hugs posted:I remember a lot of the oppo against trump was talking about how he was bowing down to dictators and kissing Putin and Kim jong-un on the lips. Biden being walked all over by netanyahu looks even worse, it makes him look weak and pathetic while at the same time also being bloodthirsty and callous. Just an absolute shambles of a presidency.
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Google Jeb Bush posted:https://www.axios.com/2024/03/01/biden-gaza-airdrops-aid-israel-hamas thank god. liberalism is saved. the american conscience is clear at last.
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Fister Roboto posted:https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1762931742841741368 didn't raegan literally tell israel to gently caress off at one point fake edit: there's even a direct quote from when he did it! "I didn't know I had that kind of power."
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Biden did it in 2021. The whole out of runway quote.
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Kith posted:didn't raegan literally tell israel to gently caress off at one point Yep. And strangely enough, a young-ish senator from Delaware had some interesting things to say about this. https://jacobin.com/2023/10/joe-biden-menachem-begin-israel-lebanon-war-civilian-casualties-canada-gaza quote:Biden’s comments were offensive, Begin said. Suddenly he [Biden] said: “What did you do in Lebanon? You annihilated what you annihilated.”
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https://x.com/tekaldas/status/1763967534364070074?s=46&t=ARI_L-v32Oind1-d9B3a3Q For those unfamiliar, BBC Verify is an extremely establishment service known for only chasing up on a relatively narrow range of 'disinformation'. Them going after IDF propaganda is somewhat significant.
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Israeli acquaintance shared this post. I’d really like to hear perspectives on it. I’m very much against Israel’s actions and want to push back tactfully.quote:“When the war started, I wrote about it a lot. I felt like I had to. Stringing words together is something I do with reasonable ease, so I felt like it was my duty to apply my writing skills to the war effort.
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AlliedBiscuit posted:Israeli acquaintance shared this post. I’d really like to hear perspectives on it. I’m very much against Israel’s actions and want to push back tactfully. Tell them to continue not writing because they are completely poo poo at it and especially not try and compare the movie or novel Dune to the endless list of war crimes committed by their country since its inception as it is so loving stupid it makes me wish I could use all three of my wishes from a genie to go back and not have read it.
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# ? Mar 2, 2024 22:21 |
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"Where is the complexity in killing people trying to get food and then lying about it" if you don't want to be tactful and, to be honest, I am unsure if you should be. Especially considering that they are saying that Native people are "better off" being part of colonial states which is essential genocide apologia.
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AlliedBiscuit posted:Israeli acquaintance shared this post. I’d really like to hear perspectives on it. I’m very much against Israel’s actions and want to push back tactfully. i would start by asking if they're joking
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AlliedBiscuit posted:Israeli acquaintance shared this post. I’d really like to hear perspectives on it. I’m very much against Israel’s actions and want to push back tactfully. It seems...well-meaning, I guess. But also twisting itself into knots to avoid singling out any of the perpetrators and enablers of the current slaughter. And tripping on a lot of racist, horrible trope in doing so. It starts with "Hey, it's not like we're -white-, you know", hops onto "Palestinians aren't really a people, just opportunists!", wanks itself raw in the 'hey, colonialosm actually benefitted EVERYONE if you think about it', and then shits itself into a big conclusion of IT'S COMPLICATED ALRIGHT Also, I burst out laughing when he had the balls to deploy World Most Moral Army fare in this stage of the game. quote:Israel has great military might, but is also hobbled by its own moral compass (if Israel were any other Arab country, Gaza would have been a parking lot by November 1). Yeah, so unfair you can't turn your open-air prison into an open-air death camp, dude. My heart just bleeds for you here. Sephyr fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Mar 2, 2024 |
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Your Brain on Hugs posted:It's really twisted, giving scraps to the people you're helping to starve. It makes Biden seem even more inhuman to me. The depravity just keeps getting deeper. If your response to an increase in aid is to get angrier you should probably reassess your thinking. Neurolimal posted:Retired US diplomat: This, on the other hand, has effort, communication, and as a bonus is correct. In a vacuum, the humanitarian aid parts of the Biden admin going "well we can use our massive if inefficient airfleet as a stopgap, and maybe start landing aid by sea and dare the blockading army to sink our ships again" is a perfectly reasonable solution to a logistical problem. When the blockading army is a nominal ally, it's bonkers. Smallish amounts of aid drops have started: https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-airdrop-humanitarian-assistance-f8bc071193f89906abf21478bc70a084 quote:Three planes from Air Forces Central dropped 66 bundles containing about 38,000 meals into Gaza at 8:30 a.m. EST, according to two of the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity before a public announcement If it's just a matter of plane capacity, we can (probably) field enough to prevent Gaza from starving. 38k meals is not that amount. USAID has a particular subsection on the Gaza invasion, as they should, which starts on Oct 14. Their most recent post is a presser but a lengthy presser by the agency head on Feb 29 where she's Not Happy with Israel's blockade. Israel doing a massacre at an aid convoy while she was in Israel probably didn't help. https://www.usaid.gov/usaid-response-wbg https://www.usaid.gov/news-informat...l-and-west-bank sample, but the whole thing's worth reading imo to get a look at the "maybe israel's the baddies" faction of the Biden admin: quote:. And I want to begin today by addressing terrible reports that we have just seen of Gazan civilians being killed while trying to get desperately urgently needed food to feed themselves and their loved ones. The humanitarian situation in Gaza is catastrophic.
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Google Jeb Bush posted:If your response to an increase in aid is to get angrier you should probably reassess your thinking. I find it hard to feel anger, I mostly just feel deeply saddened and helpless by this whole situation. However it absolutely should make you angry that the country which has complete power to end this genocide and instead chooses to aid it, is now giving tiny scraps to the people they are actively working to starve, as a PR move for credulous American liberals. It makes it easier for those people to not feel like the people they support are responsible for genocide. Any goodwill to the Biden admin for dropping food aid is drowned a hundred thousand times in the blood of the children they are helping to slaughter, and so the net outcome is simply to wish swift justice upon them and all who are complicit in this atrocity.
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The scraps that America air dropped today amount to feeding about 1.5% of Gaza a single meal. There were 38,000 meals for 2.5M people. This is assuming all the food is found and distributed, which is very unlikely. I think it's reasonable to be mad at that.
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AlliedBiscuit posted:Israeli acquaintance shared this post. I’d really like to hear perspectives on it. I’m very much against Israel’s actions and want to push back tactfully. I'd ask how long ago an ancestral linkage to a place can be to still allow the descendants to "re-"colonize it.
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https://twitter.com/DmodosCutter/status/1764019758482002260 It’s hard to feel good about this when they can’t even bother to provide food that isn’t spoiled.
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AlliedBiscuit posted:Israeli acquaintance shared this post. I’d really like to hear perspectives on it. I’m very much against Israel’s actions and want to push back tactfully. “The Palestinians, who were not a distinct ethnic group until it was politically convenient to turn them into one, are shoehorned into the category of 'colonized', even though this doesn't reflect their actual circumstances, either. In fact, Arabs in the region were a colonial power that was successful for a very long time, to the point that they don't feel like colonists anymore (the way that, say, Americans of British descent don't feel like colonists anymore). [I want to acknowledge here that Palestinians ARE a distinct group now” It’s useless Zionist tripe
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Nucleic Acids posted:https://twitter.com/DmodosCutter/status/1764019758482002260 What's the source? I can't make out the expiration date or the TG channel.
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Google Jeb Bush posted:If your response to an increase in aid is to get angrier you should probably reassess your thinking. Are they supplying more by air than land? By how much?
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Looks like https://t.me/baytlahya2015/40468 maybe? (Though with 0 Arabic not sure how much additional context that adds.)
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AlliedBiscuit posted:Israeli acquaintance shared this post. I’d really like to hear perspectives on it. I’m very much against Israel’s actions and want to push back tactfully.
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AP is reporting the first round was 38,000 meals. More civilians have been killed than that. https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-airdrop-humanitarian-assistance-f8bc071193f89906abf21478bc70a084
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Google Jeb Bush posted:If your response to an increase in aid is to get angrier you should probably reassess your thinking. Sure if you ignore that this paltry action is in lieu of anything substantial, meanwhile the US government continues providing Israel with significant military assistance.
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Sephyr posted:
Yeah, that was the part that REALLY made me pissed. Unfortunately this person could probably gently caress with my career if I pissed them off. Too many mutual friends and colleagues. But I really want to have an actual honest discussion with them that I know won’t happen.
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