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Wearing the sigil of the god you killed can be a pretty big power move if you play it right.
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Just some scribe on Collona
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I was watching Best of Times and for some reason the dynamic between Russell/Williams in that movie reminds me a lot of the Sheppard/McKay one in Atlantis. At the very least, McKay acts like Robin Williams does in that movie.
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Jaffa. Kree.
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tealc was apophis' al gore
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Captain Jaffamerica: "Avengers... kree." (Jaffa nerds in audience go wild)
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apollo kree
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Worf posted:tealc was apophis' al gore ra's al gore fought batman
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The KREE Warriors!!!
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Sardonik posted:Atlantis really shines in the McKay episodes. I wish they had had more ludicrous science plots and less Wraith episodes. The Wraith are like, the least interesting part of the show by a wide margin. Yeah he was the standout for sure. The one where he gets wedged in the gate in space was the first episode I remember really liking. That actor is a Canadian staple who was also great in the horror classic Cube, and the recent Guillermo Del Toro show. Also saw him recently in the standout episode of the Canadian detective show Murdoch Mysteries ‘The Accident’ (which was based on or burrowed heavily from Homicides’ ‘The Subway’) Great standalone piece where he really showcases his ability to show frantic emotion in the face of imminent death.
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redshirt posted:The KREE Warriors!!! Cree
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credburn posted:Cree Ain't gonna Cree! no more!!!
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It's so rewarding as a fan of the show to watch the SGC go from complete noobs to having a fleet of intergalactic ships. And it all flows naturally in the story. In the background.
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Also, I know seasons 9-10 are different enough from the RDA seasons, but I love that they continued the show and the story. The Jaffa Nation storyline for example. I LOVE the Ba'al storyline where he's a CEO on Earth (and one of many clones). The idea that the Goa'uld could be defeated in traditional battle yet enough of them adapt to Earth culture to take us over from the inside is so awesome. And it's totally easy to believe how a single let alone a few Goa'uld could wield incredible influence as a politician, or CEO, or some form of celebrity.
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redshirt posted:It's so rewarding as a fan of the show to watch the SGC go from complete noobs to having a fleet of intergalactic ships. And it all flows naturally in the story. In the background. It's funny how far and how fast they advance given all of the hand wringing early on about the program not paying off well enough.
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Prof. Banks posted:It's funny how far and how fast they advance given all of the hand wringing early on about the program not paying off well enough. And you can pretty much thank Jack O'Neill directly because of his connection with the Asgard. They love him. Suck it Kinsley!
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redshirt posted:Kree: Attention; Kneel; Go i'm not an expert in military tactics but i can foresee that causing problems :/
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gouald is tonal and our earth ears cant hear all the tones thats why it sounds they say kree for everything
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I think it's like when football players say "hut"
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redshirt posted:It's so rewarding as a fan of the show to watch the SGC go from complete noobs to having a fleet of intergalactic ships. And it all flows naturally in the story. In the background. I think I said it earlier in the thread, but it's honestly my favourite part of Stargate. You can see organically the progress. They discover the Stargate but can only go to one world. They then figure out there's some other worlds you can go to, but they're almost all run by Goa'ulds. Then by pure happenstance and luck they get to the Ancient repository and learn about the Ancients. Meanwhile they knock down some Goa'uld gliders and reverse engineer the heck out of them. A few years later they're ready to create their own (non-auto pilot) ships. What's next? Make a bigger ship! Throw that into battle and it gets loving wrecked. So make a better one! The Tau'ri skill has always been about ingenuity and adaptation. It's something the Goa'uld had mastered (none of "their" technology was really theirs) but kept in the hands of a small few. The Ancients and Asgard took it for granted. The Ori wanted to stamp it out. But the Tau'ri... the Tau'ri always gave it a go.
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That's the "competence porn" that makes SG1 so satisfying. Despite Kinsey and a few others trying to gently caress it up, the SGC is run very competently, and compassionately. It's interesting how successful Earth is since there's little about our existing tech which allowed for it. Compared to other societies out there, like the Tollan or Aeschen. Both of which could have seemingly been far more dominant than they were. I was watching a season 9 arc where the Free Jaffa are active on Earth, trying to capture Ba'al. Who's now a businessman. I love this plot line so much. Ba'al realizes where the power in the galaxy is now, and can adapt himself to work with the new paradigm. And honestly the Goa'uld are probably far more dangerous as business and world leaders on Earth rather than tyrannical space gods. But you also have the Free Jaffa, who have their own motivations and goals. So cool to see a squad of Jaffa raiding an office building on Earth, looking for a business man. Doing stuff on Earth without approval. I wish we got even more of Tau'ri-Free Jaffa relations. It's just so cool though by the end of the show Earth is arguably the seat of power in not just 1 galaxy, but 2. But also not a dominant power.
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Also, from the Free Jaffa perspective, the Tau'ri are suspect as gently caress. In season 9 those Trust agents kill millions of Jaffa by launching missiles through the gate loaded with the symbiote poison. Sure, SGC had nothing to do with it. But tell the Free Jaffa that, "Oh, no, those Tau'ri don't represent us". Dubious.
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redshirt posted:That's the "competence porn" that makes SG1 so satisfying. Despite Kinsey and a few others trying to gently caress it up, the SGC is run very competently, and compassionately. For the Tollan, I like to think it's because they achieved World Peace - but if you're not fighting, you're getting weak, and that hosed them when Anubis came along. For the Aschen, I like to think it's because they achieved World Politics Unification - but if you're focused on one task (slavery, sterilization), you're forgetting the others. We stupid humans have been out of the interplanetary loop for so long - but we kept on fighting with ourselves because we didn't get World Peace yet, and we certainly haven't got World Politics Unification (can you even imagine). Unsurprisingly, the Gou'ald haven't achieved these either, and they were pretty much the dominant force in our galaxy (until we came along and well, blew up a sun)
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redshirt posted:That's the "competence porn" that makes SG1 so satisfying. Despite Kinsey and a few others trying to gently caress it up, the SGC is run very competently, and compassionately. Some people have made the joke that Harry Potter is a bunch of kids running through a D&D campaign hilariously underleveled. I would posit Stargate SG1 is humanity beating a game of Stellaris starting midgame as a pre-ftl.
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KajiTheMelonMan posted:For the Tollan, I like to think it's because they achieved World Peace - but if you're not fighting, you're getting weak, and that hosed them when Anubis came along. The Aschen are a big mystery. We know they're advanced, but also, they hadn't figured out the wider gate system, which is a big mark against them. They had ships that could visit planets, but clearly not hyperspace ships. The Tollan seemed pretty new to the big stage. That disaster with a neighbor when they shared technology seemed like a not distant even, fresh on everyone's minds. And they too had ships but not super advanced ones (no hyperspace I think). They just seemed like an intensely conservative and cautious people.
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redshirt posted:But tell the Free Jaffa that, "Oh, no, those Tau'ri don't represent us". Dubious. "ok fine then because many jaffa are simps for the gould all jaffa must be"
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Worf posted:"ok fine then because many jaffa are simps for the gould all jaffa must be" Millions of Jaffa dead. That would be a very big deal, and when the Jaffa learn it was the Tau'ri? C'mon.
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redshirt posted:Millions of Jaffa dead. That would be a very big deal, and when the Jaffa learn it was the Tau'ri? C'mon. how many humans died at the hands of the jaffa one must wonder the jaffa, who literally exist to terrorize humans and incubate gould who..terrorize humans
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Worf posted:how many humans died at the hands of the jaffa one must wonder The Goa'uld wars were already over. The Jaffa had been liberated, the System Lords defeated. And then you're cool with some pointless genocide just to take out a couple more Goa'uld (which was the stated reason)?
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redshirt posted:The Goa'uld wars were already over. The Jaffa had been liberated, the System Lords defeated. And then you're cool with some pointless genocide just to take out a couple more Goa'uld (which was the stated reason)? tell me where i said im cool with it low IQ comeback ngl lmao ill draw it out for you simply, so you get it. if the jaffa want to go "all humans are bad because some humans did a bad thing" its pretty easy to point to history and apply the same logic to the jaffa. so, for the jaffa to up and decide AlL HuMaNs aRe EvIL would be pretty stupid on their part, given the fact that they solely exist as a means to inflict terror on the galaxy and have an undeniable history of doing so
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Worf posted:tell me where i said im cool with it lol low IQ comeback. Got it.
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Worf posted:tell me where i said im cool with it
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redshirt posted:It's so rewarding as a fan of the show to watch the SGC go from complete noobs to having a fleet of intergalactic ships. And it all flows naturally in the story. In the background. They languish for a long time before Asgard beings to help out. It's a huge step up when the battlecruisers show up and SG teams are beaming around. It's also such fun that everyone in the SGC has seen enough Star Trek that they don't bother making an alternative verb for "beaming" people. Then Thor just gives them everything in the last episode.
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well why not posted:They languish for a long time before Asgard beings to help out. It's a huge step up when the battlecruisers show up and SG teams are beaming around. It's also such fun that everyone in the SGC has seen enough Star Trek that they don't bother making an alternative verb for "beaming" people. While it feels like a big "Deus ex machina", the Asgard giving everything to the Tau'ri was mostly well set up. It was noted many times through the show the Asgard were on their last legs, and not doing well. Both because of the Replicators, and their genetic cloning issues. This was going on well before the Tau'ri arrived on the scene. And when we did, they were like "I guess these beings will do". They did seem to possess a real fondness for Jack and the rest of SG1. Stargate is an interesting mythology in that way, in that, it's a "fallen" galaxy. The real dominant powers (the Ancients) are long gone, and what's around now is in various state of cannibalizing the former empire. The Asgard were already well on their way out. The Furlings? Who dey? The Nox seemed to have removed themselves from affairs. From the Asgard perspective, they have no other strong allies. So, hey, Earth, here's all our stuff, good luck!
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Also, the entire premise of the show Atlantis is incredibly hegemonic. Why are the Tau'ri there? What interests do they have in a completely different galaxy? One could make a sincere "one off" excuse based on the SG1 storyline, "just seeking wisdom of the Ancients". But 5 seasons of Atlantis with it being a clear Tau'ri base in the Pegasus Galaxy from which they attempt to bring order to that galaxy by defeating the Wraith show how this is no temporary assignment. And with a near permanent ship presence in the later seasons. Feels like a conquest and expansion of power.
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I mean, it starts as exploration/reconnaissance, then it turns into protecting that galaxy's humans, then it turns into expansion. Good intentions and all that.
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FFT posted:I mean, it starts as exploration/reconnaissance, then it turns into protecting that galaxy's humans, then it turns into expansion. There's talk of a new Stargate show, and there's so many ways they could do it. I hope they do something new and bold, like a hegemonic Tau'ri, just for example. Just stumbled their way into a multi galactic empire...
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Atlantis is warcrimes the jaunt through another galaxy in ignorance.
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pixaal posted:Atlantis is warcrimes the jaunt through another galaxy in ignorance. Do the Geneva Conventions even apply to the Genii?
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redshirt posted:Do the Geneva Conventions even apply to the Genii? Atlantis basically starts an intergalactic war in Peg, look at all the decisions they made for the people on the planet of the week without talking to them, when they were fully aware of the politics more than Earth.
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