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Vegetable posted:This thread is preoccupied with what the actresses think. Multiple pages of inane poo poo like “I bet she regrets starring in this instead of Dune” or “I bet she wishes she got a superhero movie earlier.” I doubt it’s deliberate but you don’t see the same type of discussion about male-led bombs. Jared Leto can gently caress off and stay that way.
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Vegetable posted:This thread is preoccupied with what the actresses think. Multiple pages of inane poo poo like “I bet she regrets starring in this instead of Dune” or “I bet she wishes she got a superhero movie earlier.” I doubt it’s deliberate but you don’t see the same type of discussion about male-led bombs. I’m sorry people weren’t nice enough to Jared Leto after Morbius for you.
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Vegetable posted:This thread is preoccupied with what the actresses think. Multiple pages of inane poo poo like “I bet she regrets starring in this instead of Dune” or “I bet she wishes she got a superhero movie earlier.” I doubt it’s deliberate but you don’t see the same type of discussion about male-led bombs. Lol, I love this subforum.
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Vegetable posted:I’m not sure why you think this but no? This movie did nothing for her star power. The movie not so much but the press around it, yes. Was more just seeing all of the talk about her in the last two weeks, and then even more after the SNL appearance, but looking at Google Trends right now her name is peaking a little lower now than at the release of Anyone But You so some of that was just twitter bias. But her name is in the air more now than at the peak of Euphoria which is interesting to see.
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Is star power measured in watts or litres
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Blood Boils posted:Is star power measured in watts or litres lumens, obviously
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Vegetable posted:This thread is preoccupied with what the actresses think. Multiple pages of inane poo poo like “I bet she regrets starring in this instead of Dune” or “I bet she wishes she got a superhero movie earlier.” I doubt it’s deliberate but you don’t see the same type of discussion about male-led bombs. But you see that all the time? You know, all those planted stories about how an actor turned a role in a smash hit for a role in a bomb? Like how Will Smith turned down the Matrix for Wild Wild West because The Matrix didn't want him to rap the theme song, Connery doing LXG instead of LotR or Bill Murray doing Garfield because he was thinking of the wrong Coens.
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the idea that the cast did not do their due diligence about this not being MCU is a joke. it’s ridiculous to think that someone in the movies is less au fait than the children who watch these things
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well why not posted:the idea that the cast did not do their due diligence about this not being MCU is a joke. it’s ridiculous to think that someone in the movies is less au fait than the children who watch these things And of course if that was their intention they would have been pitching it to the actors based on that best case
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well why not posted:the idea that the cast did not do their due diligence about this not being MCU is a joke. it’s ridiculous to think that someone in the movies is less au fait than the children who watch these things It’s really not. Lots of actors don’t give a poo poo about nerd stuff and show up to do their work and then go home.
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I remember hearing a story from Darren Lynn boseman on a podcast when he directed spiral where he talked working with Sam Jackson. Jackson doesn’t meet with the director until he walks on set. He doesn’t sit and have convos about anything other than “tell me what you want to do” Apparently he Jackson got mad at him for coming into his trailer before he showed up on set. Maybe this isn’t true or maybe it’s because DLB stinks but still.
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I love the story about Fairuza Balk asking Marlon Brando for advice on the set of Moreau and him being like, "Oh, I don't know, I haven't read the script. But you're lovely, you'll be fine!" There are lots of wacky Brando stories, really.
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well why not posted:the idea that the cast did not do their due diligence about this not being MCU is a joke. it’s ridiculous to think that someone in the movies is less au fait than the children who watch these things Why would actors need to know about the intricacies of which studio holds the right to which parts of which IP? Their job is to: a) Show up on time b) Remember their lines c) Act (preferably well) d) Plug the film on talkshows and the like Anything more than that is beyond their ken
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Bringing up again that Goop didn’t know she was in Spider-Man homecoming.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Why would actors need to know about the intricacies of which studio holds the right to which parts of which IP? There are a number of reasons. Like, do they want to maintain a certain image, or avoid getting typecasted? Are they interested in a multi-film deal? Are they interested in a multi-film deal that isn't, like, the Sharknado franchise? Nobody is going to ask for a sequel to Madame Web. If you agree to star in Madame Web because you were led to believe you're getting more roles, you have been hosed over.
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Martman posted:tbh I think it's very possible that Sony actually believed they were getting the go-ahead to link these movies to the MCU and then had to walk it all back. It would line up a lot with the whole "editing the movie so Peter Parker isn't a factor" thing. Yeah Johnson has been very explicit that the movie she signed on for is not the movie that got made. I'm not sure why people keep insisting these women must be dumb. Sony misrepresented the project to them.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Why would actors need to know about the intricacies of which studio holds the right to which parts of which IP? Not really. They have agents to make sure they don’t make a disgraceful choice. Agents who know these “intricacies” (is a movie by x studio is hardly intricate) as a profession.
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CelticPredator posted:Bringing up again that Goop didn’t know she was in Spider-Man homecoming. She says. Via goop, she says a lot of things.
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well why not posted:Not really. They have agents to make sure they don’t make a disgraceful choice. Agents who know these “intricacies” (is a movie by x studio is hardly intricate) as a profession. Sony has made movies that are part of the MCU.
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Agents can also be idiots too.
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Grendels Dad posted:If you agree to star in Madame Web because you were led to believe you're getting more roles, you have been hosed over. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Mar 7, 2024 |
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Mar 7, 2024 14:58
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Madame Web is part of the MCU.
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CelticPredator posted:Agents can also be idiots too. Also literally the week the trailer dropped Johnson fired her agent and jumped agencies.
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Lid posted:Also literally the week the trailer dropped Johnson fired her agent and jumped agencies. Halloween Jack posted:That's true. However, that's not what happened here. 
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A lot of actors are dumb dude. Not all of them are nerdy enough to care about anything other than their job. And agents are also dumb, not understanding what is a good idea for their client. Any person with a brain would know to not take a job making a movie of a d list superhero character from the studio who made Morbius. But yet here we are. Venom worked because Venom is a pretty popular character and Tom Hardy had passion to do it. He didn’t show up to get a paycheck.
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I'm not saying Dakota Johnson doesn't think she got hosed over. It's just that she wasn't. A few million dollars is a lot of money.CelticPredator posted:Any person with a brain would know to not take a job making a movie of a d list superhero character from the studio who made Morbius. But yet here we are. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Mar 7, 2024 |
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Halloween Jack posted:I'm not saying Dakota Johnson doesn't think she got hosed over. It's just that she wasn't. A few million dollars is a lot of money. If you are promised one thing and then given a different thing of much lesser value, you got hosed over.
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Honestly thinking on it probably no one promised anything except that it’s a marvel movie. A lot of people don’t know the different licenses if they’re not plugged in. So these people get a gig working on a marvel movie…they’re gonna think they’re making a Marvel Cinematic Universe movie. It’s why Matt smith called Karen Gillen because he thought this poo poo was all the same and not something wildly different
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I don't really see that it's better to have been Kingo or a side character in Black Widow than to have been in Madame Web. The crux is that you want your agent to put you in films that make lots of money and have lots of sequels, quibbling over nerd universe stuff is entirely tangential. It's how people end up in Terminator sequels.
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Well with Kingo idk that movie just didn’t work. But Yelena of Black Widow went on to be a fan favorite character and I think some of the other cast members are showing up in thunderbolts. So there’s a pretty big difference there
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I dont think I can buy that "Yelena Belova" is a better career move than "Madame Web". Also it should be illegal to name your character "Youregonna Loveher".
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Shes a popular MCU character. She’s been in one of the spin of shows and is going to lead the thunderbolts That’s a pretty good career move for an already cool and popular actor.
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josh04 posted:I dont think I can buy that "Yelena Belova" is a better career move than "Madame Web".
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I am asking for a sequel to Madame Web
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josh04 posted:I don't really see that it's better to have been Kingo or a side character in Black Widow than to have been in Madame Web. The crux is that you want your agent to put you in films that make lots of money and have lots of sequels, quibbling over nerd universe stuff is entirely tangential. It's how people end up in Terminator sequels. Well def not Kingo considering Khumail has been pretty open about the self inflicted body dismorphia and eating disorders he got from making the film.
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Grendels Dad posted:There are a number of reasons. Like, do they want to maintain a certain image, or avoid getting typecasted? Are they interested in a multi-film deal? Are they interested in a multi-film deal that isn't, like, the Sharknado franchise? "Hey Jenny Agenton, Sony here, we got this movie we'd love for your client to star in, it's gonna be total dogshit that's going no where and has the potential to stall your clients career"
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CelticPredator posted:A lot of actors are dumb dude. Not all of them are nerdy enough to care about anything other than their job. And agents are also dumb, not understanding what is a good idea for their client. Actors are generally pretty dumb, but they'd be right to dismiss nerds' ABC rating of the comic book characters as influencing reception of a given movie. Initial box office has more to do with advertising, majority reviews with appeals to nostalgia/sensibility and so on. There are plenty of successful and influential movies that feature bad acting or cast & crew who were just punching a clock, and the reverse is just as true; fantastic craft by passionate people that is totally unseen! Venom wasn't decent because of Care Levels, but because the character was fun and the story was solid. Hardy definitely has some name draw, but he didn't write the script or edit, and he's been in plenty of "bombs". There's no guarantees
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If we’re measuring care, think about Sidney Sweeney’s story about lobbying hard to get more Spider-Woman action in this spiderwomen movie only for it to get cut out of the theatrical release.
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I can totally see the logic behind taking the role as a non comic fan that says - "I never knew who half these characters they're making movies about these days were but nonetheless some of them are making millions and getting multiple sequels so, I guess I'll play Adam Webb or whoever the gently caress". especially if you're signing on directly after the release and decent success of stuff like Captain Marvel.
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Blood Boils posted:Venom wasn't decent because of Care Levels, but because the character was fun and the story was solid. Hardy definitely has some name draw, but he didn't write the script or edit, and he's been in plenty of "bombs". There's no guarantees There's no guarantees, yeah, but not caring about the movie/treating it as a product makes it near-certain it's going to fail. The idea that someone could get a script with a "fun character and solid story" that they absolutely didn't give a poo poo about and make a good movie out of it...well that doesn't pass the smell test, to me personally. The "One for the Studio, One for Myself" movies are a great study on this.
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