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As long as everyone agrees to treat space as a simple 2d plane and use extremely extremely slow weapons and short distances (when considered at a void scale) then yeah I'm sure existing navy tactics will work great
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Sentient Data posted:As long as everyone agrees to treat space as a simple 2d plane and use extremely extremely slow weapons and short distances (when considered at a void scale) then yeah I'm sure existing navy tactics will work great I mean sure attack planes are 360 and distance has different factors, but how is the carrier strategy still not effective?
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redshirt posted:And speaking of ships, there's nothing in the Air Force skill tree that qualifies you to command a ship with hundreds of people. continuum jack is in the navy :taps head:
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redshirt posted:I mean sure attack planes are 360 and distance has different factors, but how is the carrier strategy still not effective? Because fighters are worthless anywhere but in atmospheric conditions?
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Curtana posted:Because fighters are worthless anywhere but in atmospheric conditions? Jack does serious damage to Anubis's super weapon in a fighter.
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Actual space combat would require including relativity into the calculations due to the relative speeds you'd be moving at in orbit, but lack of imagination means that just like most space combat in television and movies the big ships mostly face off facing eachother in close visual distance and occasionally do slow evasive maneuvers since the weapons involved have low enough velocity that they can be seen and sometimes avoided.
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FFT posted:Actual space combat would require including relativity into the calculations due to the relative speeds you'd be moving at in orbit, but lack of imagination means that just like most space combat in television and movies the big ships mostly face off facing eachother in close visual distance and occasionally do slow evasive maneuvers. More like The Expanse fights I assume.
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redshirt posted:More like The Expanse fights I assume.
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FFT posted:I haven't watched much of The Expanse but that's why I couched it with "most" since as I recall they did it right. Yeah in The Expanse almost every space battle is done at distance, such that you never see the enemy except on sensors.
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FFT posted:Actual space combat would require including relativity into the calculations due to the relative speeds you'd be moving at in orbit, but lack of imagination means that just like most space combat in television and movies the big ships mostly face off facing eachother in close visual distance and occasionally do slow evasive maneuvers since the weapons involved have low enough velocity that they can be seen and sometimes avoided. one of those ori plasma beam weapons could zoop down a school zone and not get a ticket
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redshirt posted:Yeah in The Expanse almost every space battle is done at distance, such that you never see the enemy except on sensors. This was a thing is mass effect too until they decided gently caress it
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I'd love to see the Tau'ri navy some 20-30 years after the show. I'm sure being a multi-galactic dominant power has not done anything to upset a fair objectivity.
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the guy who plays Rodney isnt just a decent guy but offscreen hes a complete nerd and runs a group teaching kids to code
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TK-42-1 posted:This was a thing is mass effect too until they decided gently caress it Probably the first game since the guns operated on basically the same principle until the sequel where they switched to traditional ammo
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redshirt posted:Yeah in The Expanse almost every space battle is done at distance, such that you never see the enemy except on sensors. Exactly. Space battles are like carrier battles not because of airplanes (which lack any sort of space analog) but because if your sensors don't detect the enemy, but they see you, you're going to lose. Funnily enough this applies whether or not you include engines fueled by magic or are bound by the tyranny of the ticket equation; your ship is always going to be extremely vulnerable to a projectile weapon that employs the same engine technology but can accelerate much faster than you.
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PittTheElder posted:Airplanes (which lack any sort of space analog) ???
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We have carriers in real life because planes do things ships can't do, so having a ship built to bring planes around to do things ships can't do is great. However, that 'planes do things ships can't do' relies entirely on the difference between being in/on the water and being in the atmosphere on the same planet. In space, there's nothing like sitting just over the horizon and sending planes/helicopters/drones out to scout or sending out fighters or missiles or drones to strike things. The distances involved in interaction between two space ships just makes that impossible without wizards did it levels of ignoring the physics involved. Without space wizards you just can't have a reasonable analogue to planes in space. Nothing that is meant to be in space will do the same things as planes meant to be in atmosphere.
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PittTheElder posted:Exactly. Space battles are like carrier battles not because of airplanes (which lack any sort of space analog) but because if your sensors don't detect the enemy, but they see you, you're going to lose. Agreed. But in the case of Stargate ships, then can go faster than any weapon, since they can jump to hyperspace.
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y'all are dumb. Space Battles are like Naval battles... because it looks wicked fuckin cool.
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Bucnasti posted:y'all are dumb. Hell yeah brother. And don't get me started on sounds in space.
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redshirt posted:Hell yeah brother. sounds travel through a medium, and the medium in space battles is gently caress YEAAAAAA *guitar solo*
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PittTheElder posted:Exactly. Space battles are like carrier battles not because of airplanes (which lack any sort of space analog) but because if your sensors don't detect the enemy, but they see you, you're going to lose. You're not wrong but in terms of likely futuretech it gets just a liiiiittle more complex than that https://youtu.be/xvs_f5MwT04 (issac arthur is a physicist afaik)
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Amazon currently owns the Stargate rights. With all the risks that entails. But I want to see a new show set in today's time, except as part of a galactic alliance. With Tau'ri ships throughout multiple galaxies....
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If you are detectable in space you done hosed up and will get destroyed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_forest_hypothesis
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See I'd sculpt a hyperspace attack response. Like the Odyssey shows up right in your grill and simultaneously two Prometheus class ships arrive just above and below from the sides.
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Anything set after the Asgard gave all their knowledge to SGC would be bonkers although now that I've typed that it feels like they must have immediately lost it
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So the next show is set now, in current time. The Tau'ri are one of the dominant powers in multiple galaxies, along with the Jaffa. But there is tension within this alliance. The System Lords have been defeated, but there are still many Goa'uld, and they have turned to ever more elusive forms of subterfuge. A Goa'uld influence on Earth is persistent and powerful. While the Stargate has been revealed and Earth's fleet as well, the true nature of the Goa'uld and other threats have not. Earth is a highly unstable place with factions vying for power and influence. The show can have humor, but not primarily. With 15-18 44 minute episodes per season, plenty of time for "Alien/Monster/Weird planet of the week" episodes. And character development, and long term plots.
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A through line from SG1 could be a focus on Ascension and the Ancients. Maybe now Ascension has become a real possibility for millions of people. But given the Tau'ri influence in several galaxies, with fleets of ships and bases all over, there are powerful factions among the Tau'ri and adversaries working against this.
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redshirt posted:A through line from SG1 could be a focus on Ascension and the Ancients. Maybe now Ascension has become a real possibility for millions of people.
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Desert Bus posted:If you are detectable in space you done hosed up and will get destroyed: The dark forest hypothesis can suck my balls
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SGA is humming along. I like most of the cast fine, but it’s a step down. Teyla is useless. The episode where Weir goes back in time to hang out with the ancients and freezes herself for 10k years is a science-fiction-as-gently caress story.
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FFT posted:Some scientologist-coded rando pulls it off first, causing other problems Jonas Quinn?
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ChairmanMauzer posted:Jonas Quinn?
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FFT posted:Who? The archaeologist who had a gou'ald girlfriend wait that doesn't help the one who Jack didn't like at first? the one that Teal'C raised eyebrows at? the one that had no sex appeal to Sam or any other women, unless they were hosed up aliens? actually emphatic to people's feelings? had a couple of different haircuts through the series? man gently caress this is hard
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it is so funny to be a sciti and on sg1 playing a space mormon
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FFT posted:Who? Parker Lewis
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edgeman83 posted:Parker Lewis I hear he can't lose.
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Jonas Quinn tapped that Goa'uld rear end!
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