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Kei Technical posted:90's trek was astonishingly chill about terrorism How do you mean? Like, they showed it as an effective way to deal with an opponent you couldn't otherwise hope to defeat?
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Fil5000 posted:How do you mean? Like, they showed it as an effective way to deal with an opponent you couldn't otherwise hope to defeat? Yeah, pretty much. Major Kira, one of the main characters, is repeatedly described as a former terrorist and it's treated as purely descriptive, not a pejorative. There's one episode where a hideously scarred civilian victim of her attacks tries coming after her for revenge, and in their final confrontation, she straight up says that he was a colonist and therefore a legitimate target, and the episode basically takes her side.
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Randalor posted:Or just turn into a fly and hang out on a nearby wall until someone else opens the door. Were they able to violate conservation of mass?
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Angry Salami posted:Yeah, pretty much. Major Kira, one of the main characters, is repeatedly described as a former terrorist and it's treated as purely descriptive, not a pejorative. There's one episode where a hideously scarred civilian victim of her attacks tries coming after her for revenge, and in their final confrontation, she straight up says that he was a colonist and therefore a legitimate target, and the episode basically takes her side.
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Phanatic posted:Were they able to violate conservation of mass? No, but the giant fly on the wall near the door was amazingly detailed.
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Angry Salami posted:Yeah, pretty much. Major Kira, one of the main characters, is repeatedly described as a former terrorist and it's treated as purely descriptive, not a pejorative. There's one episode where a hideously scarred civilian victim of her attacks tries coming after her for revenge, and in their final confrontation, she straight up says that he was a colonist and therefore a legitimate target, and the episode basically takes her side. That tracks, the US was used to terrorism as either a lone nutcase sending bombs in the mail or as something that they were OK with (like the various Irish Republican organisations blowing poo poo up on the British mainland).
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Randalor posted:Yeah, the changeling was mocking how extreme and suspicious the Federarion had become of literally everyone. And why would they care about retinal scanners when they could just enter any buikding through, say, a vent or crack in the foundation? Or just turn into a fly and hang out on a nearby wall until someone else opens the door. can they really turn into a fly? what about conservation of mass? cmon star trek. get it together.
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Jen heir rick posted:can they really turn into a fly? what about conservation of mass? cmon star trek. get it together. It could be a very dense fly.
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I think they solve the mass issue with heisenberg compensators
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On earth a changling was able to turn into a bird and fly around. And then turn into O'brian and walk around. Apparently the right mass for both forms. Odo could turn into an empty bag that was easy to carry. And there was that one guy that turned into fire. The clear implication is that changlings can change mass. Maybe they deflect surplus mass into subspace or fluidic space or a pocket universe or something. 
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The Nitpicker guides theorised that for the scene where Odo eats dinner like a normal human, he must have presumably run a bit of himself up the table leg and turned the end bit into a plate of food.
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Torquemada posted:The Nitpicker guides theorised that for the scene where Odo eats dinner like a normal human, he must have presumably run a bit of himself up the table leg and turned the end bit into a plate of food. This might have been a fever dream but I’m pretty sure I remember a scene where Odo is explaining to someone how he fakes drinking from a glass by having it be part of himself and just refilling it as it empties. Though I presume with food he could just hold it in his goop until he has time to discreetly get rid of it later when no one is looking. Which is basically just pooping if you think about it.
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Disgusting creatures, these Shapeshifters. What the gently caress
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Bussamove posted:This might have been a fever dream but I’m pretty sure I remember a scene where Odo is explaining to someone how he fakes drinking from a glass by having it be part of himself and just refilling it as it empties. https://i.imgur.com/K58hLJ0.mp4
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I love the design of Odo's room when he finally gets one after embracing his identity as a changeling. It's just random objects of varying textures and shapes for him to practice mimicking and a bowl for him to chill out in his goop form when feeling run down. I also like his relationship with Lxwanna Troi where they develop a healthy respect for one another due to both finding appearances very important to them, even if in Lxwanna's case it's out of vanity and embarrassment. I love when they get trapped in the lift together, and to make Odo feel better about his physiological breakdown because he's not been able to rest, Troi takes off her hair in solidarity. Both showing the other something that neither will ever allow anyone else to see again.
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That’s the one! I had totally forgotten it was Garak being entirely unsure whether to be impressed or grossed out because of course it was. 
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Bussamove posted:That’s the one! I had totally forgotten it was Garak being entirely unsure whether to be impressed or grossed out because of course it was. That is especially fitting. Kinda funny that now I remember the time Bashir cameos on TNG and meets Data, and is impressed by how humanlike Data is in his mannerisms and small touches, and Data explains how his body's built to simulate things like breathing while also doing double-duty as practical functions. BioEnchanted posted:I love the design of Odo's room when he finally gets one after embracing his identity as a changeling. It's just random objects of varying textures and shapes for him to practice mimicking and a bowl for him to chill out in his goop form when feeling run down. I also like his relationship with Lxwanna Troi where they develop a healthy respect for one another due to both finding appearances very important to them, even if in Lxwanna's case it's out of vanity and embarrassment. I love when they get trapped in the lift together, and to make Odo feel better about his physiological breakdown because he's not been able to rest, Troi takes off her hair in solidarity. Both showing the other something that neither will ever allow anyone else to see again. Y'know, I didn't get that before but suddenly it makes sense, Odo in his way is VERY concerned about appearances, body issues and his self-image, even and in fact especially because of his alien nature relative to everyone he knows. And given how alien he feels about that, it makes sense that he'd find a point of connection with a 'solid' who struggles with caring about an aspect of herself she can't fully control.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:That is especially fitting. Kinda funny that now I remember the time Bashir cameos on TNG and meets Data, and is impressed by how humanlike Data is in his mannerisms and small touches, and Data explains how his body's built to simulate things like breathing while also doing double-duty as practical functions. The main character of the Murderbot books deals with that when it is trying to hide among humans. It has special routines to do stuff like fidget or look around instead of being either in motion or completely still.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:As I said, I'm pretty sure it's implied Changelings have insane attention to detail. Jadzia regularly pranks Odo by sneaking into his quarters and moving things by an inch. Also one of the things that makes Odo a good detective. And Janos Audron.
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I'd have bet (and lost) all my money on Maurice Chevalier being the voice of Lumiere from the cartoon beauty and the beast, but had I been given the option to double down and take a guess on who actually played him, I'd have lost again because I still can't believe it was Jerry orbach of all people.
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Star trek lore about some single character always sounds so cool but I just can't bring myself to actually watch the show(s)
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BiggestOrangeTree posted:Star trek lore about some single character always sounds so cool but I just can't bring myself to actually watch the show(s) Just watch the best Trek of them all: Star Trek Discovery
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Biplane posted:Just watch the best Trek of them all: Star Trek Discovery Pardon my friend here, they're trying to a laugh at your expense. The best Star Trek is obviously Voyager.
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Elissimpark posted:Pardon my friend here, they're trying to a laugh at your expense. Lots of bad spelling of Lower Decks going on here.
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The best Star Trek is obviously Empire Strikes back
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I seem to recall that that Star Trek porn parody with all the sex cut out of it was actually very good
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That's the second episode of TNG.
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OwlFancier posted:That's the second episode of TNG. That's every episode of TNG.
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I need to try watching ds9 again. I feel like I watched a bunch of episodes and found it kind of ok, and lost interest. But apparently a whole bunch of cool poo poo happens if you stick it out. When does the good stuff start? and can I skip straight to it?
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Jen heir rick posted:I need to try watching ds9 again. I feel like I watched a bunch of episodes and found it kind of ok, and lost interest. But apparently a whole bunch of cool poo poo happens if you stick it out. When does the good stuff start? and can I skip straight to it? I rewatched it during the pandemic, it's still the best iteration of Trek. You do need the early episodes to actually appreciate the poo poo everyone has gone through by the end. Also, there are occasional clunkers in every season, no escaping that; there's just a lot fewer than any other Trek series.
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Galaxy Quest is the best Star Trek. I will not be taking questions.
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muscles like this! posted:The main character of the Murderbot books deals with that when it is trying to hide among humans. It has special routines to do stuff like fidget or look around instead of being either in motion or completely still. Data really has a lot thought out in retrospect, all justifying relatively cheap special effects and makeup. Especially since it's outright said his design specifically is meant to look almost-human but clearly non-human so people see him as something like a human but clearly not trying to pass as one, so as to not fall into the Uncanny Valley, (which probably also helps when he's in a multi-species society where people are used to interacting with sentient non-human beings) and his backstory when expanded on actually makes more sense seeing his prototypes and him being the result of an iterative process. Torquemada posted:I rewatched it during the pandemic, it's still the best iteration of Trek. You do need the early episodes to actually appreciate the poo poo everyone has gone through by the end. Also, there are occasional clunkers in every season, no escaping that; there's just a lot fewer than any other Trek series. It's a bit tricky given you kinda need to be familiar with Star Trek to appreciate DS9's examinations of a lot of its elements. Also, Star Trek The Animated Series is major underrated. Kwanzaa Quickie posted:Galaxy Quest is the best Star Trek. I will not be taking questions. This is also true.
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Kwanzaa Quickie posted:Galaxy Quest is the best Star Trek. I will not be taking questions. everyone in this movie is so perfect but i have a hard time believing Tony Shalhoub just didn't wander onto set high and improv everything.
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Torquemada posted:I rewatched it during the pandemic, it's still the best iteration of Trek. You do need the early episodes to actually appreciate the poo poo everyone has gone through by the end. Also, there are occasional clunkers in every season, no escaping that; there's just a lot fewer than any other Trek series. I don't know, I feel like I remember a lot of ds9. Maybe I watched the first season? I remember all the characters and their backstories pretty vividly. I liked the characters, but it just seemed like nothing happens. I want to get to the part where something happens. I just really don't want to watch season 1 again.
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Jen heir rick posted:I don't know, I feel like I remember a lot of ds9. Maybe I watched the first season? I remember all the characters and their backstories pretty vividly. I liked the characters, but it just seemed like nothing happens. I want to get to the part where something happens. I just really don't want to watch season 1 again. I skipped most of season one (you can find lists online of must watch episodes, Duet is the only one I can recall off the cuff), watched most of season 2 and then all the rest of it and then went back and watched the episodes I missed, and while I liked seeing character dynamics slowly develop I didn't feel like I'd missed anything important watching it that way. S3 is I think when Sisko grows a beard, and that's when stuff pops off.
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Kwanzaa Quickie posted:Farscape is the best Star Trek. I will not be taking questions.
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DS9's first season is the ropiest, but it's still pretty decent for the most part and sets up a lot of political stuff. I would see how you get on with it rather than skipping it by default.
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Cowslips Warren posted:everyone in this movie is so perfect but i have a hard time believing Tony Shalhoub just didn't wander onto set high and improv everything. If I remember correctly, his character was supposed to be more overtly high as gently caress. They scrapped that to make the movie more family friendly, but he's still pretty obviously high.
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Grendels Dad posted:If I remember correctly, his character was supposed to be more overtly high as gently caress. They scrapped that to make the movie more family friendly, but he's still pretty obviously high. well
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