The US will lose WW3

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drilldo squirt: Aug 18, 2006; a beautiful, soft meat sack; Clapping Larry

I think I could have a fun conversation in this one.

# ? Mar 12, 2024 11:10

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# ? May 25, 2024 13:26

drilldo squirt: Aug 18, 2006; a beautiful, soft meat sack; Clapping Larry

Also china can't even invade taiwan.

# ? Mar 12, 2024 11:10

Megamissen: Jul 19, 2022; any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

drilldo squirt posted:

Also china can't even invade taiwan.

why do you think that

# ? Mar 12, 2024 11:14

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

drilldo squirt posted:

I don't remember that happening and I'm very up to date with the world.

really? drat, sorry that you had to find out this way

# ? Mar 12, 2024 11:16

drilldo squirt: Aug 18, 2006; a beautiful, soft meat sack; Clapping Larry

Megamissen posted:

why do you think that

I'm pretty sure they would if they could.

# ? Mar 12, 2024 11:17

drilldo squirt: Aug 18, 2006; a beautiful, soft meat sack; Clapping Larry

Cerebral Bore posted:

really? drat, sorry that you had to find out this way

Who won?

# ? Mar 12, 2024 11:17

Nix Panicus: Feb 25, 2007

drilldo squirt posted:

I'm pretty sure they would if they could.

Why would China want to invade Taiwan? They already own it!

# ? Mar 12, 2024 11:20

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

it's their island! they're supposed to be there!

# ? Mar 12, 2024 11:21

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

drilldo squirt posted:

Who won?

i did

# ? Mar 12, 2024 11:22

fizziester: Dec 21, 2023

drilldo squirt posted:

I think I could have a fun conversation in this one.

Seems like the Houthis still haven't managed to learn why Americans don't have free healthcare.

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Source: Guardian UK

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/11/houthi-attacks-red-sea-yemeni-authorities-west

West won’t stop Houthi attacks unless it works with Yemeni authorities, say experts
Patrick Wintour
Diplomatic editor
Mon 11 Mar 2024 12.01 GMT

Western efforts to stop Houthi attacks on shipping in the Red Sea will fail unless the US and its allies build stronger intelligence and military relations with the UN-recognised government in Yemen, politicians and experts are warning.

Yemen’s ambassador to the UK has warned the Houthis have to be confronted and driven away from Red Sea ports such as Hodeidah. Similar calls were made by members of the Yemeni government coalition when they visited London last month.

At present, American and British diplomats are reluctant to draw the Aden-based government closer into its Red Sea operations, fearing this could reignite a civil war that has been on effective hold since April 2022....

... But they also acknowledge there is little sign US-UK strikes on Houthi positions along the coastline have had a full deterrent effect, and other options have to be kept on the table.

That assessment was underlined at the weekend when a multiple Houthi drone strike on western ships early on Saturday morning forced US, French, UK and Danish ships to become involved in a complex and largely successful operation to shoot down more than 35 Houthi drones and missiles. Four were aimed at the already stricken bulk carrier True Confidence, which was being escorted by the French frigate Alsace after being hit on Wednesday, killing three sailors. British and Danish ships both shot down drones in their vicinity....

... Since 19 October, the Yemeni movement has launched 403 missiles or drones against 61 ships. As many as 15 missiles have struck targets. The three most serious incidents have been the sinking of the Rubymar, the capture of Galaxy Leader and its crew, and the serious damage inflicted on True Confidence.

The Houthis, keen users of social media, also screened on Sunday a video of a mock Yemeni attack in the Negev desert in southern Israel, in which buildings displaying US, UK and Israeli flags were attacked. The US has admitted in congressional hearings that its intelligence about Houthi activity is limited....

... Different branches of the badly divided Aden-based government were in London last month, arguing the western position had been too reactive, and lacked an overall vision for how Yemen could fit into a new Middle East...

... The Aden-based government is in a quandary in that the Palestinian cause is popular in Yemen, and many see the Houthis as at least standing up to Israel in a way that other Gulf leaders have avoided. One expert claimed the Houthi actions in the Red Sea may have helped it to recruit tens of thousands of new fighters.

The Aden government is fighting back by claiming the Houthis actions including the sinking of the Rubymar will bring famine and a marine environmental disaster that will damage fishers’ lives for generations. The information minister, Moammar al-Eryani, said the disaster would lead to the proliferation of algae, forming a cover over the surface of the water and blocking light from it, leading to the death of coral reefs and marine animals.

In the absence of greater cooperation with the anti-Houthi bloc inside Yemen or any troops on the ground, western forces have limited other options apart from hoping more attacks on Yemen missile launch sites will finally degrade the Houthis’ effectiveness, or that upon a ceasefire in Gaza the Houthis will stick to their promise to end the attacks and there will be a revival of the peace process. But that requires diplomats treating the Houthis after the past four months as credible partners for peace.

The US has not ruled out targeted assassinations of key Houthi leaders, while US senators want the US to sink an Iranian ship, Beshad, that for months has been cited as a spy ship in US intelligence reports.

# ? Mar 12, 2024 11:22

drilldo squirt: Aug 18, 2006; a beautiful, soft meat sack; Clapping Larry

Cerebral Bore posted:

i did

Proud of u.

# ? Mar 12, 2024 11:23

drilldo squirt: Aug 18, 2006; a beautiful, soft meat sack; Clapping Larry

fizziester posted:

Seems like the Houthis still haven't managed to learn why Americans don't have free healthcare.

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Source: Guardian UK

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/11/houthi-attacks-red-sea-yemeni-authorities-west

West won’t stop Houthi attacks unless it works with Yemeni authorities, say experts
Patrick Wintour
Diplomatic editor
Mon 11 Mar 2024 12.01 GMT

Western efforts to stop Houthi attacks on shipping in the Red Sea will fail unless the US and its allies build stronger intelligence and military relations with the UN-recognised government in Yemen, politicians and experts are warning.

Yemen’s ambassador to the UK has warned the Houthis have to be confronted and driven away from Red Sea ports such as Hodeidah. Similar calls were made by members of the Yemeni government coalition when they visited London last month.

At present, American and British diplomats are reluctant to draw the Aden-based government closer into its Red Sea operations, fearing this could reignite a civil war that has been on effective hold since April 2022....

... But they also acknowledge there is little sign US-UK strikes on Houthi positions along the coastline have had a full deterrent effect, and other options have to be kept on the table.

That assessment was underlined at the weekend when a multiple Houthi drone strike on western ships early on Saturday morning forced US, French, UK and Danish ships to become involved in a complex and largely successful operation to shoot down more than 35 Houthi drones and missiles. Four were aimed at the already stricken bulk carrier True Confidence, which was being escorted by the French frigate Alsace after being hit on Wednesday, killing three sailors. British and Danish ships both shot down drones in their vicinity....

... Since 19 October, the Yemeni movement has launched 403 missiles or drones against 61 ships. As many as 15 missiles have struck targets. The three most serious incidents have been the sinking of the Rubymar, the capture of Galaxy Leader and its crew, and the serious damage inflicted on True Confidence.

The Houthis, keen users of social media, also screened on Sunday a video of a mock Yemeni attack in the Negev desert in southern Israel, in which buildings displaying US, UK and Israeli flags were attacked. The US has admitted in congressional hearings that its intelligence about Houthi activity is limited....

... Different branches of the badly divided Aden-based government were in London last month, arguing the western position had been too reactive, and lacked an overall vision for how Yemen could fit into a new Middle East...

... The Aden-based government is in a quandary in that the Palestinian cause is popular in Yemen, and many see the Houthis as at least standing up to Israel in a way that other Gulf leaders have avoided. One expert claimed the Houthi actions in the Red Sea may have helped it to recruit tens of thousands of new fighters.

The Aden government is fighting back by claiming the Houthis actions including the sinking of the Rubymar will bring famine and a marine environmental disaster that will damage fishers’ lives for generations. The information minister, Moammar al-Eryani, said the disaster would lead to the proliferation of algae, forming a cover over the surface of the water and blocking light from it, leading to the death of coral reefs and marine animals.

In the absence of greater cooperation with the anti-Houthi bloc inside Yemen or any troops on the ground, western forces have limited other options apart from hoping more attacks on Yemen missile launch sites will finally degrade the Houthis’ effectiveness, or that upon a ceasefire in Gaza the Houthis will stick to their promise to end the attacks and there will be a revival of the peace process. But that requires diplomats treating the Houthis after the past four months as credible partners for peace.

The US has not ruled out targeted assassinations of key Houthi leaders, while US senators want the US to sink an Iranian ship, Beshad, that for months has been cited as a spy ship in US intelligence reports.

If iraq and afganistan proved anything it's america is much better at the killing everyone part of war than the world police stuff.

# ? Mar 12, 2024 11:25

DJJIB-DJDCT: Feb 1, 2024

If mlmp is a sophist, this would be Diogenes appearing on the scene I suppose?

🪔 �I�m looking for the right thread�

# ? Mar 12, 2024 11:25

drilldo squirt: Aug 18, 2006; a beautiful, soft meat sack; Clapping Larry

Cynics are depressing, how dare you.

# ? Mar 12, 2024 11:26

Cuttlefush: Jan 15, 2014; gotta have my purp

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

If mlmp is a sophist, this would be Diogenes appearing on the scene I suppose?

🪔 �I�m looking for the right thread�

it's drilldo squirt

# ? Mar 12, 2024 11:28

zetamind2000: Nov 6, 2007; ~~I'm an alien.~~

fizziester posted:

while US senators want the US to sink an Iranian ship, Beshad, that for months has been cited as a spy ship in US intelligence reports.

now that's a spicy october surprise

# ? Mar 12, 2024 11:39

mycomancy: Oct 16, 2016

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

If mlmp is a sophist, this would be Diogenes appearing on the scene I suppose?

🪔 “I’m looking for the right thread”

Drilldo squirt makes Diogenes look like Don Draper.

# ? Mar 12, 2024 12:16

Rodney The Yam II: Mar 3, 2007

Drilldo u just missed out on some riveting artillery talk

Maybe you're in time for rivet talk!

# ? Mar 12, 2024 12:47

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

fizziester posted:

Seems like the Houthis still haven't managed to learn why Americans don't have free healthcare.

____________________________________________________

Source: Guardian UK

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/11/houthi-attacks-red-sea-yemeni-authorities-west

West won’t stop Houthi attacks unless it works with Yemeni authorities, say experts
Patrick Wintour
Diplomatic editor
Mon 11 Mar 2024 12.01 GMT

Western efforts to stop Houthi attacks on shipping in the Red Sea will fail unless the US and its allies build stronger intelligence and military relations with the UN-recognised government in Yemen, politicians and experts are warning.

Yemen’s ambassador to the UK has warned the Houthis have to be confronted and driven away from Red Sea ports such as Hodeidah. Similar calls were made by members of the Yemeni government coalition when they visited London last month.

At present, American and British diplomats are reluctant to draw the Aden-based government closer into its Red Sea operations, fearing this could reignite a civil war that has been on effective hold since April 2022....

... But they also acknowledge there is little sign US-UK strikes on Houthi positions along the coastline have had a full deterrent effect, and other options have to be kept on the table.

That assessment was underlined at the weekend when a multiple Houthi drone strike on western ships early on Saturday morning forced US, French, UK and Danish ships to become involved in a complex and largely successful operation to shoot down more than 35 Houthi drones and missiles. Four were aimed at the already stricken bulk carrier True Confidence, which was being escorted by the French frigate Alsace after being hit on Wednesday, killing three sailors. British and Danish ships both shot down drones in their vicinity....

... Since 19 October, the Yemeni movement has launched 403 missiles or drones against 61 ships. As many as 15 missiles have struck targets. The three most serious incidents have been the sinking of the Rubymar, the capture of Galaxy Leader and its crew, and the serious damage inflicted on True Confidence.

The Houthis, keen users of social media, also screened on Sunday a video of a mock Yemeni attack in the Negev desert in southern Israel, in which buildings displaying US, UK and Israeli flags were attacked. The US has admitted in congressional hearings that its intelligence about Houthi activity is limited....

... Different branches of the badly divided Aden-based government were in London last month, arguing the western position had been too reactive, and lacked an overall vision for how Yemen could fit into a new Middle East...

... The Aden-based government is in a quandary in that the Palestinian cause is popular in Yemen, and many see the Houthis as at least standing up to Israel in a way that other Gulf leaders have avoided. One expert claimed the Houthi actions in the Red Sea may have helped it to recruit tens of thousands of new fighters.

The Aden government is fighting back by claiming the Houthis actions including the sinking of the Rubymar will bring famine and a marine environmental disaster that will damage fishers’ lives for generations. The information minister, Moammar al-Eryani, said the disaster would lead to the proliferation of algae, forming a cover over the surface of the water and blocking light from it, leading to the death of coral reefs and marine animals.

In the absence of greater cooperation with the anti-Houthi bloc inside Yemen or any troops on the ground, western forces have limited other options apart from hoping more attacks on Yemen missile launch sites will finally degrade the Houthis’ effectiveness, or that upon a ceasefire in Gaza the Houthis will stick to their promise to end the attacks and there will be a revival of the peace process. But that requires diplomats treating the Houthis after the past four months as credible partners for peace.

The US has not ruled out targeted assassinations of key Houthi leaders, while US senators want the US to sink an Iranian ship, Beshad, that for months has been cited as a spy ship in US intelligence reports.

That's a lot of words to summarise "impotent talks held in London, military viagra not immediately forthcoming".

# ? Mar 12, 2024 12:49

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1766573474615607601?t=vtt5lZacTn4BcuUhe7QX4Q&s=19

Referring to a country as having "badlands" is certainly a novel, old timey form of racist you just can't get anywhere else but in a rag like The Atlantic

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:03

Hatebag: Jun 17, 2008

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1766573474615607601?t=vtt5lZacTn4BcuUhe7QX4Q&s=19

Referring to a country as having "badlands" is certainly a novel, old timey form of racist you just can't get anywhere else but in a rag like The Atlantic

badlands are just a type of terrain
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badlands

heavily eroded soils. hard to walk on, bad for agriculture

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:12

Grilled Beef: Oct 27, 2023

fizziester posted:

Source: Voice of America

https://www.voanews.com/a/pentagon-needs-10b-to-replace-weapons-already-sent-to-ukraine-officials-say/7523377.html

Pentagon Needs $10B to Replace Weapons Already Sent to Ukraine, Officials Say
By Carla Babb
March 11, 2024 9:32 PM

PENTAGON � The Pentagon has a funding shortfall of about $10 billion for U.S. military weapons needed to replace those already sent to Ukraine, a shortfall that requires additional money from Congress to fix, top Defense Department officials said Monday.

�We don't foresee a likely alternative outside of the supplemental funding [bill] or having that money added into an appropriations bill in order to achieve the replenishment that we need,� Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks told reporters.

�We are probably looking at about $10 billion to replace everything, everything that we�ve given in terms of supplies to Ukraine,� one official told VOA.

Pentagon officials expected to get the funding to replenish those stocks in a supplemental request from the Biden administration, which included billions of additional dollars in aid for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan. However, Congress has yet to pass a supplemental aid bill because of arguments on spending and U.S. border security.

The shortfall is tied to the way the Pentagon has accounted for the aid sent to Ukraine. Last June, the Pentagon said it overestimated the value of weapons sent to Ukraine by about $6.2 billion over the past two years.

When calculating its aid package estimates, the Department of Defense was counting the cost incurred to replace the weapons given to Ukraine, while it said it should have been totaling the cost of the systems actually sent, officials told VOA at the time.

The error provided the Pentagon the legal cover needed to send more aid to Ukraine, but the problem remained that more funds would be needed to replenish U.S. military stockpiles with newer, costlier weapons.

Failing to replenish U.S. stockpiles would negatively affect the military�s readiness, another defense official told VOA.

The department still has about $4 billion in authority to send aid to Ukraine, but Pentagon officials have told reporters that sending additional aid without the ability to replenish U.S. weapons stockpiles would be a risk the Defense Department is not willing to take at this time....

been expecting reveals like this for a while, and I�m certain that this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Yes, there are stockpile levels that are meant to be maintained, but also there is intense pressure on these junior officers to �find� material to go overseas, and audit and verification of the stockpile levels is so rare that anyone in charge now will be promoted away when or if it is ever checked on. Particularly if they �find� the desired material to be sent,m

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:19

Grilled Beef: Oct 27, 2023

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1766573474615607601?t=vtt5lZacTn4BcuUhe7QX4Q&s=19

Referring to a country as having "badlands" is certainly a novel, old timey form of racist you just can't get anywhere else but in a rag like The Atlantic

man read the actual article it gets WAY worse. like I know the Atlantic is poo poo but even by that standard it�s bad. guy talks about how he was stunned the negotiator shows up in a suit with notes instead of in rags and sandals and keeps going from there

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:23

Nix Panicus: Feb 25, 2007

Remember when the surest sign of the Russian's backwardness and inability to make things was their usage of deep legacy stockpiles of still functional equipment?

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:25

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

Grilled Beef posted:

man read the actual article it gets WAY worse. like I know the Atlantic is poo poo but even by that standard it’s bad. guy talks about how he was stunned the negotiator shows up in a suit with notes instead of in rags and sandals and keeps going from there

Is this the same guy who mentioned magic carpet or that was a different guy?

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:28

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

Slavvy posted:

It's long, long overdue to be changed to 'is losing'

If you go with the argument that nuclear weapon has kept the ceiling of war intensity low, then WW3 has already started. And if another war go up just when the war in eastern european is winding down, then a lot more people will be saying it, not just anonymous posters on a dead forum.

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:33

Nothus: Feb 22, 2001; Buglord

Grilled Beef posted:

man read the actual article it gets WAY worse. like I know the Atlantic is poo poo but even by that standard it�s bad. guy talks about how he was stunned the negotiator shows up in a suit with notes instead of in rags and sandals and keeps going from there

quote:

The Houthi spokesman was right on time for our meeting. I was a little surprised by his appearance; I had half expected to see a swaggering tribesman of the kind I used to meet in Yemen�mouth bulging with khat leaves, a shawl over his shoulders and a curved dagger in his belt. Instead, Abdelmalek al-Ejri was a neat-looking fellow in a blue-tartan blazer and a button-down shirt. He kept a physical distance as he greeted me, his manner polite but guarded, as if to register that we stood on opposite sides of a chasm.

lmfao

edit:
https://x.com/abn_alhassan/status/1767326153340014849?s=20

Nothus has issued a correction as of 13:42 on Mar 12, 2024

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:38

StashAugustine: Mar 24, 2013; Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Grilled Beef posted:

man read the actual article it gets WAY worse. like I know the Atlantic is poo poo but even by that standard it’s bad. guy talks about how he was stunned the negotiator shows up in a suit with notes instead of in rags and sandals and keeps going from there

I like the idea of meeting a politician from like Alabama and being shocked they're not barefoot in denim overalls and a trucker cap

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:39

Hatebag: Jun 17, 2008

the american negotiator was not dressed as i expected - a kkk robe stained with cheeseburgers

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:42

zetamind2000: Nov 6, 2007; ~~I'm an alien.~~

Nothus posted:

lmfao

edit:
https://x.com/abn_alhassan/status/1767326153340014849?s=20

expecting a muslim to have a sikh dagger's the cherry on top of the middle east racism sundae

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:47

BitcoinRockefeller: May 11, 2003; God gave me my money.; Hair Elf

I like this part:

quote:

We met in a spotless caf� in Muscat, the capital of the Sultanate of Oman. The city has for years been a kind of portal to the outside world for the Houthis, whose control of the Yemeni capital is not recognized by any country other than Iran. But it is an odd place to discuss Yemen because�despite their physical proximity and shared desert landscape�Oman is essentially the inverse of its neighbor. Where Yemen is lawless and violent, Oman is almost impossibly sedate and tidy, an Arab Switzerland. Omanis glide around in their elegant cloth head wraps and white dishdashas, looking serene; you can be arrested for rude public gestures or loud swearing, even for littering. Some of this, one imagines, is a deliberate effort to keep Yemen�s chaos at bay.

Being arrested for littering, is it asian authoritarianism or is it a respectable effort to ward off savagery? I guess it depends on location.

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:52

drilldo squirt: Aug 18, 2006; a beautiful, soft meat sack; Clapping Larry

Nix Panicus posted:

Remember when the surest sign of the Russian's backwardness and inability to make things was their usage of deep legacy stockpiles of still functional equipment?

I don't see how this equates to the us giving Ukraine weapons.

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:53

drilldo squirt: Aug 18, 2006; a beautiful, soft meat sack; Clapping Larry

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1766573474615607601?t=vtt5lZacTn4BcuUhe7QX4Q&s=19

Referring to a country as having "badlands" is certainly a novel, old timey form of racist you just can't get anywhere else but in a rag like The Atlantic

Jesus christ this is bad.

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:54

Cuttlefush: Jan 15, 2014; gotta have my purp

drilldo squirt posted:

I don't see how this equates to the us giving Ukraine weapons.

exactly

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:54

Owlbear Camus: Jan 3, 2013; Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?

Cerebral Bore posted:

sorry bud the us already lost world war 3, but if you wanna chime in with a world war 4 prediction then go right ahead

I think the Eurasian Constitutional Caliphate has the qualitative edge over the Greater Sino-Russian Alliance, in spite of the latter having a stronger foothold in the former US.

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:55

drilldo squirt: Aug 18, 2006; a beautiful, soft meat sack; Clapping Larry

Cuttlefush posted:

exactly

Russia is still deeply pathetic for needing to bring out tanks from the 60s.

# ? Mar 12, 2024 13:57

Owlbear Camus: Jan 3, 2013; Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?

drilldo squirt posted:

Russia is still deeply pathetic for needing to bring out tanks from the 60s.

you drive a classic 60s car like a chevelle with a 307 small block people are like like "cool car!"

you drive a classic 60s like a T-62 tank with a 115mm main gun people "gently caress off, gently caress you, orc" etc.

make it make sense.

# ? Mar 12, 2024 14:03

drilldo squirt: Aug 18, 2006; a beautiful, soft meat sack; Clapping Larry

If your troops have to use 60 year old tanks you have a problem. If someone is driving a 60 year old car that means they can afford to keep that thing running. I hope this helps you understand.

# ? Mar 12, 2024 14:05

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
you better hit your mark

They don't even use guided 155mm shells

# ? Mar 12, 2024 14:06

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Homeless Friend: Jul 16, 2007

as a tankie i love all tanks, old and new, equally

# ? Mar 12, 2024 14:08

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