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Yeah, it's really noticeable with Cloud that all of his synergy skills work great at filling up other characters' ATBs. The giant cleave attack or bullet smash attacks are great for that, but for some other characters their synergy skills aren't spammable in the same way since they have a different function (like Tifa and Yuffie).
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Putting the auto ability works really well for barret and tifa at the very least, swapping over to tifa and her already being charged up is nice. Barret automatically overloading at folks also owns
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Harrow posted:Yeah I've stayed away from things like Auto-Weapon Ability because generally I want to be in control of when and how ATB is spent, especially in the absence of something like the gambit system to offer passive direction to the AI. I'm sure they're reasonably smart about things but I'd still prefer to just control that kind of resource expenditure on my own. I posted this about before but based on my short experiment the AI seemed a little too passive and this a problem when you want those synergy abilities asap. I think this is because the AI is programmed to use abilities in optimal situations but it can only use 4 shortcuts so that leaves out a lot of good abilities. Auto unique however is very good on most characters because triangle skills dont cost ATB and they AI will use them as much as possible
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Valleyant posted:Putting the auto ability works really well for barret and tifa at the very least, swapping over to tifa and her already being charged up is nice. Barret automatically overloading at folks also owns It's great for Tifa but with Barret I found it ran into the problem of him blowing Overcharge while he had full ATB and since Overcharge is so great at building ATB that's a huge waste.
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Having someone with auto-cast heal materia is very good and saved my bacon a lot because I am bad at paying attention to my health bars And Tifa having auto-ability so she'll boost her chi levels is great But yeah you should generally be cycling through characters
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Speaking of abilities, something I've just started using and went "wait why have I not been doing this" is Haste, haste is so drat good in this game.Sockser posted:Having someone with auto-cast heal materia is very good and saved my bacon a lot because I am bad at paying attention to my health bars I'm real lame with it; Every person has Healing material in my party, and I have Auto-Cast Healing on my non-active characters at all times. I almost never have to heal manually, if at all. It does feel kind of cheap though; I just don't really feel like managing the healing, which is funny because I exclusively play support and healing characters in World of Warcraft. Harrow posted:Oh hell yeah Haste is busted Whoa wtf! Noted! Taima fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Mar 12, 2024 |
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Mar 12, 2024 17:37
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Oh hell yeah Haste is busted Red XIII gets an ability that lets him haste the whole party for no MP and it's excellent
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Mar 12, 2024 17:38
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Fedule posted:did they really set up a complex world full of moving borders and political machinations and basking in the subtext of casting off the legacy of the crystals just to sweep it all away and fight god while rejecting destiny, again, all just melt away. Trying to think about the narrative is a fool's errand. No thoughts. Only combos. was the connection between those concepts really not obvious enough for people
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Mar 12, 2024 17:41
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All of Red XIII's Vengence Spenders are insanely good too especially once you get his Chilling Howl ability and build Vengence so quickly.
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Mar 12, 2024 17:42
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they traded a story about rebelling against higher powers that have treated people like worthless tools since time immemorial for just another story about rebelling against a higher power that has treated people like worthless tools since time immemorial (while wearing goth eyeliner)
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Mar 12, 2024 17:43
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Ytlaya posted:Did the Arbiters/whispers save Biggs? We've only seen Biggs in the "other timeline," which seems to imply he's still dead in our timeline. They're shown to fly around him and his surroundings shift from a battle to nothing going on. Actually, it's kind of weird that in Remake all the whispers are just hovering above all of the Avalanche members (and Wedge in Rebirth) before they scatter as you get close. I wonder if that means something.
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Arist posted:Pretty much, yeah. Characters who aren't in your active party will usually gain AP on their equipped materia in field encounters, so it's worth it for everyone to have complete loadouts.  how did I not think about this, I have been leaving a bunch of characters' materia empty when I'm switching stuff around. I knew they shared the XP but never thought about AP
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Augus posted:they traded a story about rebelling against higher powers that have treated people like worthless tools since time immemorial for just another story about rebelling against a higher power that has treated people like worthless tools since time immemorial (while wearing goth eyeliner) I completely agree but this probably isn't the thread to relitigate it.
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Mar 12, 2024 18:03
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Augus posted:they traded a story about rebelling against higher powers that have treated people like worthless tools since time immemorial for just another story about rebelling against a higher power that has treated people like worthless tools since time immemorial (while wearing goth eyeliner) Yes, they traded an interesting, complex, multi-actor, multi-motivation story about rebelling against higher political, institutional, ultimately human powers that have treated people like worthless tools since time immemorial for just another boringstory about rebelling against a higher singular power that has treated people like worthless tools since time immemorial (while wearing goth eyeliner). I'm being a little glib but everything they build up in the beginning is cheapened by the final act. Everything, even the politics, comes down to one guy, who acts like a cliche and literally invokes the first game, who pulled all the strings and controlled everything you thought was a complex interaction of good and flawed people, and whose death sets it all right. It is a story about a protracted moral atrocity whose true horror comes from it being inflicted on humans by other humans, discarding the respect of their shared humanity, rather than by uncaring forces of nature or chance, but which instead reimagines it as coming from god, who never cared in the first place, and tells us all those people were actually good and normal until god brainwashed them, and that they are not responsible for the system they inhabit because it was all built for them by god. It is a story that spends a lot of time setting up complicated arrangements and explaining them and making sure we have the tools to understand how it works and how it changes between chapters, and then throws it all in the garbage.
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Wrong thread for this!
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Mar 12, 2024 18:14
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That might be a discussion for the spoiler thread? Please spare my only on Chapter 8 self. Also, Aerith showed up to escort me around the Gold Saucer. I don't know why, but I thought I was going to get to actively pick my date -- curse my policy of being nice to my entire party at every opportunity!
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Mar 12, 2024 18:20
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Man, FF16 ruled. Gotta replay it when the rest of the DLC comes out
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CapnAndy posted:That might be a discussion for the spoiler thread? Please spare my only on Chapter 8 self. It's actually about FF16 so it should be another thread entirely, yes. There was a discussion going on in the RPG thread and I got mixed up which one this was.
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Mar 12, 2024 18:22
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Double post somehow!
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Taima posted:Does this game expect you to have a full materia load out for everyone at once? Just curious because it's always switching the active members around. The auto materias are good for most fights but in the end I fought best when playing it how I did in Remake: swapping characters whenever I was hit, in a long animation or recovery animation. Auto materia helps thing's like Tifa and Barret not need to be babysit too much but I never found the AI to work well with a full auto setup I did setup everyone with a full materia setup because it's easy enough to identify which materia benefits what character the most
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GateOfD posted:If only FF8R was possible Is there some reason it's not? Honestly I feel like it's inevitable that they'll end up remaking most of the series - 5, 6, and 8 would be incredible, 9 probably needs it the least since the art direction still holds up and wouldn't really suit the hyper-realistic approach anyway - though that fan project to remake it is gorgeous and retains the art style well enough, so it could definitely be done.
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CapnAndy posted:That might be a discussion for the spoiler thread? Please spare my only on Chapter 8 self. There are two Gold Saucer segments if you remember from the original, the official date-date happens when you go back the second time. I don't think you get an active pick, I'm not there yet either, but you still have time if you want to change some of the relationship levels.
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Mar 12, 2024 18:39
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omg the way Yuffie jumps onto the healy bench is adorable 
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I don't understand how Yuffie does not have a permanent case of fractured rear end from how she slams onto benches
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Fedule posted:I don't understand how Yuffie does not have a permanent case of fractured rear end from how she slams onto benches She does, she's just too committed to the bit to stop now
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Ror posted:There are two Gold Saucer segments if you remember from the original, the official date-date happens when you go back the second time. I don't think you get an active pick, I'm not there yet either, but you still have time if you want to change some of the relationship levels. Fedule posted:I don't understand how Yuffie does not have a permanent case of fractured rear end from how she slams onto benches 
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The Nibel region is such a relief after Cosmo Canyon. It's just kind of breezy and short, the enemies aren't a huge pain in the rear end and it's easy to knock out objectives quickly. I love its version of the world map music too. I'm getting ready to roll into Chapter 12, I think. Feels like the game is building towards a big climax and I'm definitely here for it. For all the random tiny complaints I have about the game, the overall package is pretty stellar and genuinely impressive in places. The wait for the next game will probably be unbearable.
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I didn't really mind Cosmo Canyon, I thought it was pretty chill. The only real low point of the open world for me has been Gongaga. If anyone here has played Guild Wars 2, specifically the Heart of Thorns expansion, did you have flashbacks, too?
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CapnAndy posted:Ancient Wutaian art of benchjitsu Hard teeth, hard can
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What's the deal with the Odin fight? I know you have to dodge his attacks to avoid the zanketsu whatever. I got hit a single time but he still busted it out and wiped me after one minute.
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Harrow posted:Oh hell yeah Haste is busted It jumped him from "bench warmer" to "auto include for every fight" for me. It's that good.
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I would like to have a talk with whoever designed the 3rd chocobo gliding course in Cosmo Canyon. This might actually be worse than the box breaking in Intermission.
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Frankston posted:What's the deal with the Odin fight? I know you have to dodge his attacks to avoid the zanketsu whatever. I got hit a single time but he still busted it out and wiped me after one minute. dodging his attacks or landing special moves on him will psyche him up, tanking hits and playing defense will disappoint him and make him end the fight early. basically just keep tearing into him, with yuffie or barret on hand so that you can hit him with specials without worrying about Reprisal
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Frankston posted:What's the deal with the Odin fight? I know you have to dodge his attacks to avoid the zanketsu whatever. I got hit a single time but he still busted it out and wiped me after one minute. This is a guess, but it feels like both dodging his attacks and also doing enough damage are required. It feels very DPS check-y.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Is there some reason it's not? I don't think that fan project is intended to be a full game. They were just doing a slice of gameplay to show what could be possible.
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Frankston posted:What's the deal with the Odin fight? I know you have to dodge his attacks to avoid the zanketsu whatever. I got hit a single time but he still busted it out and wiped me after one minute. You need to be perfect parrying, dodge and doing damage.
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You also need to stick debuffs on him, usually the de-spells
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Blockhouse posted:You also need to stick debuffs on him, usually the de-spells The assess text is misleading, debuffs on their own don’t affect whether he uses Zantetsuken or not. The only thing that actually matters is that you deal lots of damage to Odin and avoid as much damage as possible (people have peeked at the code to confirm this) debuffs still help in that they can increase the amount of damage you deal and decrease how much you take but that’s it.
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Bio does a lot of work against Odin and triggers pressured pretty fast.
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Anecdotally on my three attempts, blocking stuff the first two times led him to doing his enrage (the second time I tried to cheese it with Phoenix reraise on multiple party members). The third time, I tried to actively avoid the hits entirely by pre emptively moving and that made him get into pressured state pretty quickly.
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