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Why did firing the bazooka at the thopter fail one time but work the second?
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I think they turned the shield on right before it hit, but not in time to repel the rocket
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Mar 14, 2024 03:08
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The ornithopter shield is dropped when it fires its own weapons, and I figured Chani was trying to time her shot to hit when its shield is off. However, when she does hit it later, it’s clearly shown that the shield is up, and the projectile hits it and then penetrates it very slowly somehow? You can see the red of the shield being penetrated right as the doorgunner looks down at it. So I dunno.
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Mar 14, 2024 03:26
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Listen, al Gaib,
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Mar 14, 2024 04:39
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Chani's friend: "heh, more like Muad'dweeb."
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Mar 14, 2024 05:03
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PeterWeller posted:To be fair, Dune takes this from Foundation because the former is very much a response to and critique of the latter. Prescience leading to disaster is a direct refutation of Hari Seldon's psychohistory. Oh yeah, that's a big thing not to be ignored; Dune is specifically a counterpart and critique to classic sci-fi. So much of the setup, with space dukes and barons and sword fights, is straight out of John Carter kind of planetary romance, but it's in a world that's affected by material conditions, takes influence from non-European cultures, and is inhabited by grown-ups. It also specifically takes all those elements because they are cool and make for great backdrops and themes and just expands on them in ways that add to the story, using history for inspiration. (See how entire bits are basically taken straight from Sabres of Paradise) Schwarzwald posted:It's interesting reading Foundation in light of Dune because Foundation ain't exactly bloodless either. There's a lot of bloody war and starvation and misery happening just outside its anodyne viewpoint. To the extent Hari Seldon was able to predict/manipulate/profit from that, it ain't hard to view him as a monster. Of course I wouldn't expect Frank Herbert to have written a whole book as a response to it if he didn't find interesting things in it. It's a remix and counterpoint, taking many of the key elements and flipping them around in nature or in narrative prominence. The Butlerian Jihad is presented as a reason why the setting doesn't have robots or computers like sci-fi was expected to, not as an inherently good thing even if many of the characters believe it to be- especially since, as I've said, the 'machine thinking' never went away, with the society just treating humans like interchangeable machines expected to serve specific purposes. Aspects like Mentats and Navigators are specifically meant to be freaky because they're people who have been twisted mentally and physically into being optimised for a specific job. (Something Warhammer 40k takes and runs with, driving it home a bit better)
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Mar 14, 2024 05:09
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I read the synopsis of the books that Brian Herbert wrote to resolve things after Chapterhouse. I only knew about the dogshit prequels. lmao
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Mar 14, 2024 06:26
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ULTRASPICE e: Seriously read this bullshit What the gently caress? RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Mar 14, 2024 |
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Mar 14, 2024 06:29
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RBA Starblade posted:ULTRASPICE I got about a third of the way through that article. It just keeps going
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Mar 14, 2024 06:46
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quote:Now that Paul is able to devote all of his attention to her, Chani remarks that he has finally learned how to treat his wife. Paul reaffirms his love for Chani, telling her he has loved her for over 5,000 years. LOL So happy I never read a word of the post-Frank books.
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Mar 14, 2024 07:36
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Simplex posted:Chani just randomly learned how to pilot an ornithopter somewhere why would that be a surprise. in the first movie her mum helps paul and jessica escape the sardaukar by pointing them to a hidden ornithopter.
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Mar 14, 2024 07:42
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exmarx posted:why would that be a surprise. in the first movie her mum helps paul and jessica escape the sardaukar by pointing them to a hidden ornithopter. Well, though Liet was her father in the books, it's not really established if she's her mother in the films. But even if not, it was a fremen ornithopter in a fremen base, so the scene still establishes that they have them. So, no reason for her to not have learned.
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Mar 14, 2024 08:22
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MrMojok posted:The ornithopter shield is dropped when it fires its own weapons, and I figured Chani was trying to time her shot to hit when its shield is off. The shield probably didnt go up in time to stop the missile before it was already halfway through. Thats how I saw it.
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Mar 14, 2024 10:12
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Also chani is neck deep in hardcore guerilla warfare. It makes perfect sense Fremen like her would be prepared to operate a bunch of this machinery
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Mar 14, 2024 10:13
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Martman posted:Also chani is neck deep in hardcore guerilla warfare. It makes perfect sense Fremen like her would be prepared to operate a bunch of this machinery Yeah it seems like it you happily accept her operating a SAM launcher but then bump on her piloting a helicopter type thing then maybe you're reaching for something to complain about?
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if chani was driving a honda minivan with leto ii and ghanima in the back, and realised she forgot to pick up toilet paper at the kroger, could she signal correctly then execute a smooth three-point turn into a driveway to change directions? maybe not. but ornithopters seem really easy to fly. in the future they've got machine controls all figured out
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Mar 14, 2024 11:14
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It might just be that I have brain problems but I'd watch a whole documentary on the lives of the populace of Giedi Prime in the Villeneuve universe. Every single person with a job there looks like it's hell on Earth 24/7. The only people consistently having a good time were Feyd's weird-rear end cannibal girlfriends and even then, it seems like feeding them fresh bodies is a lot of upkeep. I wonder if they just have to give up and go get a sandwich sometimes.
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Mar 14, 2024 14:27
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Scags McDouglas posted:It might just be that I have brain problems but I'd watch a whole documentary on the lives of the populace of Giedi Prime in the Villeneuve universe. "Life is cheap in the Imperium." -Baron Westmoreland
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Mar 14, 2024 14:28
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Scags McDouglas posted:It might just be that I have brain problems but I'd watch a whole documentary on the lives of the populace of Giedi Prime in the Villeneuve universe. Lot of civil engineering work though with all those rounded corners and such
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Mar 14, 2024 14:37
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Look, I don't want to be crude, but if you train your goth concubines to be cannibals, how do you trust them not to bite you, y'know, anywhere and everywhere?
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Mar 14, 2024 16:10
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Halloween Jack posted:Look, I don't want to be crude, but if you train your goth concubines to be cannibals, how do you trust them not to bite you, y'know, anywhere and everywhere? It's like having a pet alligator, just keep it fed and you're probably fine.
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the giedi prime equivalent of cocaine hippos
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Illmade posted:Why don't they just, like, move somewhere else? Just go live on Caladan or whatever. I mean, it's a big universe. There's really no need for anyone to live on Arrakis except spice miners. Lmao
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Saw the film again with more family members. It was better the second time. I felt the first time was a sensory overload of imagery, spectacle, and sound effects. The script owns too. Holy gently caress what an amazing accomplishment this movie is. Looking forward to part 3. If you’re on the fence about seeing this in a theater don’t hesitate to go. It really was like watching the matrix or fellowship of the ring for the first time. It was so visceral. My 2 cents.
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RBA Starblade posted:I read the synopsis of the books that Brian Herbert wrote to resolve things after Chapterhouse. I only knew about the dogshit prequels. paaul
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Zadok Allen posted:If you’re on the fence about seeing this in a theater don’t hesitate to go. It really was like watching the matrix or fellowship of the ring for the first time. It was so visceral. My 2 cents. I felt this way as well. it's something I'll be looking back on, like being a part of cinema history
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Zadok Allen posted:Saw the film again with more family members. It was better the second time. I felt the first time was a sensory overload of imagery, spectacle, and sound effects. The script owns too. Holy gently caress what an amazing accomplishment this movie is. Looking forward to part 3. 
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I saw Part 2 alone the first Saturday, came home and talked it up so much my wife actually finally sat down and watched Part 1 (which she loved). We have a sitter tomorrow night for Part 2 and I'm SO excited for her to see it.
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Mar 14, 2024 19:11
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I remember an old Wikipedia synopsis of the last sequel book, obviously written by a fan, that was very long and all of the last dozen sentences ended in an exclamation mark. I think Duncan Mk. 5000 becomes Cyber Christ and fixes everything?
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Halloween Jack posted:I remember an old Wikipedia synopsis of the last sequel book, obviously written by a fan, that was very long and all of the last dozen sentences ended in an exclamation mark. I think Duncan Mk. 5000 becomes Cyber Christ and fixes everything? Duncan is the real KH and everyone you ever liked comes back as gholas even though they've been dead for thousands of years lol
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Mar 14, 2024 19:17
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SwordmasterAnthony's Birthday
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Eason the Fifth posted:Duncan is the real KH and everyone you ever liked comes back as gholas even though they've been dead for thousands of years lol I was looking for an image of Aria the other day, wanting to refresh my mind on how creepy she was in Lynch's Dune, and ended up finding myself on some random Dune wiki and read her story synopsis. There was something so hilariously droll about how a wiki article matter of factly states how all these characters came back to life, undid all the bad things and are given happy endings instead.
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Just look at the cover to Sandworms of Dune, and it will convey every last thing you need to know about those atrocious novels. And no, I'm not posting a picture.  
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Isometric Bacon posted:I was looking for an image of Aria the other day, wanting to refresh my mind on how creepy she was in Lynch's Dune, and ended up finding myself on some random Dune wiki and read her story synopsis. We need a Frank Herbert ghola to come to life just to smack the poo poo out of his son.
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Denis Villeneuve earns my eternal gratitude for tastefully demoting Alia's role, and executing the climax far better than the book. Some characters and concepts exist in the Tom Bombadil zone, where they simply can't be faithfully depicted without the audience being weirded out or laughing for the wrong reasons.
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https://twitter.com/muoi_art/status/1767249575650222447?t=Z1jtWiA3SlXRsEqHjBc6Ug&s=19
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Denis Villeneuve earns my eternal gratitude for tastefully demoting Alia's role, and executing the climax far better than the book. I had made the joke that Count Fenring is Dune's Tom Bombadil.
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Shageletic posted:paaul Isn’t Anderson the Luke->Luuke guy who now is also responsible for Paul->Paolo?
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Unfortunately, Timothy Zahn did the dumb extra U's in clone names, not KJA. But Anderson has done a lot of his own stupid moves, and deciding to ape the silliest thing in Zahn's books with "Paolo" is very within his power.
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Scags McDouglas posted:idk if Chani becomes truly antagonistic to Paul, that's a pretty permanent divergence from the plot. The events of Children / Leto II are pretty much gone (that's a bad thing!) but it gives a lot of wriggle room to make a movie in the Messiah chronology that could appeal to an audience (good thing?). It’s been a long, long time since I read Messiah, but if I start with the basic assumption of Chani dying in childbirth isn’t a good thing because she’s an actual character in the movies, it’s not hard to imagine a film that is both faithful to the story and a bit modified in the details. The entire arc for Paul there is both becoming an actual messiah in developing true vision despite the expectations of the Fremen, but also ultimately acquiescing to their traditions by exiling himself into the desert and realizing he was wrong. Just do that and have his reconciliation with Chani align with him accepting the Fremen ways and have her die some other way.
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