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explosivo posted:The little flaps that are extended up at an angle coming out of the chute are heavy armored, so if you hit those dead in the middle it deflects the shot straight down into the chute. Basically bank it in off the backboard. Once you figure it out you really can't miss as long as you're at a good angle. The open door works with grenades at least. I'm honestly not sure if it works with AC shots.
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AC destroying bot fabricators is a neat trick but the limited angles that it works from means it really doesn’t matter much of the time unless you’re out of grenades and/or didn’t bring any strats that can destroy them
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Darox posted:AC destroying bot fabricators is a neat trick but the limited angles that it works from means it really doesn’t matter much of the time unless you’re out of grenades and/or didn’t bring any strats that can destroy them The amount of times I've been able to close up a factory from 100-200m away while passing by makes it better than a simple trick imo. Once you get a hang of it you can hit them reliably as long as you're in the front of the factory and blow them up safely from way farther away than you can with strategems or grenades.
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Mar 14, 2024 18:30
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Do stun grenades or for that matter smoke still close bug holes?
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Mar 14, 2024 18:31
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Rocket bots should all be grenade bots instead. Imagine the panic when a flurry of grenades from a devastator flies through the air and drops all around you beeping for a couple of seconds before exploding, as opposed to the "welp guess I just died" instagib that rockets tend to do if you're not glued to the shield pack.
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sushibandit posted:Rocket bots should all be grenade bots instead. Imagine the panic when a flurry of grenades from a devastator flies through the air and drops all around you beeping for a couple of seconds before exploding, as opposed to the "welp guess I just died" instagib that rockets tend to do if you're not glued to the shield pack. Something like that or they need a more noticeable tell so even if you die you have a better idea of where the heck it was.
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That might actually be worse than rockets since at least they need LOS. It's kind of a mercy bots don't throw grenades more often than they do.
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Darox posted:AC destroying bot fabricators is a neat trick but the limited angles that it works from means it really doesn’t matter much of the time unless you’re out of grenades and/or didn’t bring any strats that can destroy them You can skip ac rounds into the fabricator vent from a kilometer out though, which is unique to it and the EAT/RR. Especially for the light and medium outposts that only have one fabricator, being able to clear it from extreme range and vanish into the ether can be a huge boon.
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Darox posted:AC destroying bot fabricators is a neat trick but the limited angles that it works from means it really doesn’t matter much of the time unless you’re out of grenades and/or didn’t bring any strats that can destroy them Honestly the angles are pretty forgiving if you're going for the flap-ricochet on the fabs and you can do it from 100m+ away.
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Mar 14, 2024 18:37
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They should make the bile mortar bugs into glowy loud plasma mortar bugs
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I just don’t think blowing up a fabricator from miles away matters most of the time except during blitz missions. Being able to go prone and quickly three-tap a cannon turret that’s turned around ~200m away is incredible though.
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Chillgamesh posted:They should make the bile mortar bugs into glowy loud plasma mortar bugs look posters complain about regular mortars and not seeing them before you get gibbed so yes we should definitely add more death from the sky mechanics
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sushibandit posted:Rocket bots should all be grenade bots instead. Imagine the panic when a flurry of grenades from a devastator flies through the air and drops all around you beeping for a couple of seconds before exploding, as opposed to the "welp guess I just died" instagib that rockets tend to do if you're not glued to the shield pack. Armor with the 50% reduced explosion damage trait works too. Even the light at or can tank a rocket and be ragdolled and left with 20% life or so. It's why I run I, plus it makes me a lot more likely to survive a teammate loving up something explosive. Edit: also seems to help with mortar bugs.
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ZeusCannon posted:Do stun grenades or for that matter smoke still close bug holes? Neither of them close bug holes or blow up bot fabricators
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Gorelab posted:Something like that or they need a more noticeable tell so even if you die you have a better idea of where the heck it was. theysayheygreg posted:look posters complain about regular mortars and not seeing them before you get gibbed so yes we should definitely add more death from the sky mechanics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS11s0t-MlI&t=8s BitBasher posted:Armor with the 50% reduced explosion damage trait works too. Even the light at or can tank a rocket and be ragdolled and left with 20% life or so.
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theysayheygreg posted:look posters complain about regular mortars and not seeing them before you get gibbed so yes we should definitely add more death from the sky mechanics I am specifically talking about turning the lime green booger mortars into loud and more visible plasma mortars
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Giving rocket bots an aiming laser to tip you off is a great idea
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Dandywalken posted:Giving rocket bots an aiming laser to tip you off is a great idea This has been directly shot down by the CEO as a stupid idea.
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AndyElusive posted:Looks like I had to fork over another 15 bucks to democracy to unlock the Cutting Edge equipment. Ya, I like the devs and there is still ways to get super credits in game. The other thing is that this is a pve game and you can pick up your teammates weapons anyway so its not too bad. I got the new laser AR, it's pretty good. Probably the best AR now in the game for a primary, the only thing is getting used to the heat since I haven't played with any laser weapons up until now. Also is bile titans headshot with EAT one kill always or just sometimes?
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causticBeet posted:Sure, but if they continue to release these roughly once a month you probably end up having to spend $$ to get to play with the new toys, which kinda sucks in a game where there are like… 3 usable primaries and 1 usable secondary. afaik they haven't fixed the exploit where you can just farm tons of supercredits in trivial difficulty. I did that for this warbond a week ago or so and got 400 sc in like 20 minutes
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Tibbeh posted:Neither of them close bug holes or blow up bot fabricators That makes sense. I was mildly hopeful that the game just check "grenade has entered?" Instead of the type.
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sushibandit posted:
I feel this way about the 30% throw distance increase armor. Gotten so bad that when I swapped to something else for a few missions, throwing things just felt wrong.
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Swapping in and out of that armor has caused me some Problems re: where the explosions end up
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Durzel posted:Seems like a really niche armour modification. It doesn't even reduce the damage to the point where it feels like could be a strategy, I mean it reduces it by 95% but if its instakill++ damage then you might still be taking big chunks of health off. Pretty sure I saw a video recently showcasing it where the guy was still dead from a Tesla tower in about 5 hits. The Tesla tower doesn't target you if you're prone, though it can still hit you're in front of or behind it's target. The armor will make that not kill you when it inevitably happens. Also, it's a defense against your Arc-Thrower loving friend who can't see name tags for some reason. turn off the TV posted:why does the continuous beam laser AR exist now that there is an alternative version that's effectively a straight upgrade across the board My wishful thinking is that new enemies might have parts with a weakness towards Beam-tagged weapons. Maybe they'll rip open Illuminate shields (I don't know, I didn't play HD1).
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I honestly feel like the Dominator is the better version of the Slugger for Terminids. 
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ive had 2/3 games crash on me so far. all were using the sickle so maybe thats the problem but its definitely worse than it was before
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:afaik they haven't fixed the exploit where you can just farm tons of supercredits in trivial difficulty. I did that for this warbond a week ago or so and got 400 sc in like 20 minutes is that just running around a map on 1 difficulty?
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Chocobo posted:I honestly feel like the Dominator is the better version of the Slugger for Terminids. Why? Afaik, the slugger is better than the dominator in every aspect.
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tofes posted:is that just running around a map on 1 difficulty? Nah, you get a map with a good seed that has super credits, then something with disconnecting to reset it to get them again.
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I haven't tried farming but I have noticed that if I get disconnected while playing solo and then load the mission up again, the map seems to be the same, so that makes sense
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I started using the slugger and I can't stop. Popping off heads on medium sized enemies in one hit is just too satisfying. If you're quick enough and your positioning is good you can still deal with hordes fast enough that the single shot nature isn't a problem.
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johnny park posted:I haven't tried farming but I have noticed that if I get disconnected while playing solo and then load the mission up again, the map seems to be the same, so that makes sense Yea this is it, you find a map with some nice SC amounts, deploy -> collect -> alt-F4 -> deploy -> collect -> alt - f4
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Brutor Fartknocker posted:Nah, you get a map with a good seed that has super credits, then something with disconnecting to reset it to get them again. Yeah, you just find a trivial that has a nice grouping of sc or medals spawn together and f4 the game, then drop back in the same map near the pickups.
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Jerkface posted:Yea this is it, you find a map with some nice SC amounts, deploy -> collect -> alt-F4 -> deploy -> collect -> alt - f4
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Sindai posted:Huh, I assumed you only actually gain resource pickups when the mission finishes. super credits are applied to your account as soon as they're picked up
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How often do premium warbonds release? I could farm them but I'm having flashbacks of the TF2 Halo Incident. I could excuse the  if I have 3 options to ponder.
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Some games are smart enough to know to kill the player if he gets too out of bounds because some bug. HD2 is not one of those games...
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Ciaphas posted:i can upgrade to deluxe to unlock the original premium warbond and get 1000sc to boot, right? or did i have to buy deluxe when I first got the game Description says it unlocks Steeled Veterans in addition to the other goodies. No 1000 SC. What I have heard is if people buy the super citizen edition upgrade and already have steeled veterans before doing so, then they get nothing. So people have contacted customer support and they will give them 1000sc (the cost of steeled veterans). Or so I've heard. You might be waiting for a while though due to all the other issues support is dealing with.
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PantsBandit posted:Am I missing something or are bots just WAY harder than bugs? I'm level 16 and able to do bug missions on extreme with a full squad, but a comparable bot mission on challenging is a total poo poo-show from the moment boots hit the ground. Bots require a different mindset/approach than the bugs, and they probably feel harder at first because they do have some bullshit ways to kill you at range that take some getting used to. They have three distinct disadvantages that make them a fair bit easier to exploit than bugs, namely: 1. Most bots - including their heavy hitters, the Hulk and the Tank - are slower than you, so you have a much easier time 2. Bots really like to stand clustered together, which makes landing Eagle runs/accurate orbital weapons (e.g., EMP, Gas Strike) very easy. 3. Only their basic line infantry can shoot flares to summon dropships (as opposed to bugs where anything short of a Charger/Bile Titan can seemingly summon a breach). They also have a very obvious tell for when this is about to happen - their eyes flash, and they slowly reach one arm up to the sky to fire off a flare. This makes it a lot easier to eliminate a patrol before they can call in for backup. Hit and run is a super-effective strategy for managing bot objectives/outposts. Most of them can be solo'd by quite a few stratagems, in particular the 380mm Barrage and the Orbital Laser - the only amount of time it takes is for you to toss in a beacon, then you can run away before the bots can even respond while the stratagem does the work. Bug nests are comparatively much trickier since there are a ton of holes and very few stratagems are reliable at hitting them all, so you pretty much always need to go in somewhat to close holes manually when fighting bugs. Also, the bots' primary threats don't come from their heavy hitters (e.g., the Tank and the Hulk) - they come from their medium-armored infantry, the Devastators (all varieties are deadly for various reasons). Managing Hulks just takes one competent person armed with a Railgun or Autocannon - one unsafe charged railgun shot to the glowing red eye that screams "Shoot me!" is enough to kill it. It takes two Autocannon shots in the same spot to do the same. Also, you can render a Hulk harmless by shooting its arms off with the Autocannon. Tanks are fairly easy to mitigate compared to Bile Titans, and they generally don't spawn in great enough numbers/frequency that 1-2 Divers with Orbital Railcannons can't manage. Barring that, tanks are also super easy to hit with the 500kg and especially the Eagle Rocket Pods. Tanks are not something you want to stay active for long, though - those cannons will one-shot you, and the AA variant with a bunch of machine guns with shred through you in no time. The Autocannon is very good at managing Tanks (as well as any Cannon emplacements) in a pinch - just sneak around behind them (it's easier than you think unless they're already focused on you) and place three shots in the radiator at the back of the tank - it doesn't take a ton of time and it will blow up real good. As stated earlier, the real threat are Devastators. While they can all be taken down in a single Slugger/Railgun shot to the head, it's hard to be that accurate when they and a bunch of other bots are firing at you. 2-3 shots with the Autocannon pretty much anywhere on them will kill them as well, and is honestly not a bad strategy because the Autocannon will also make them flinch when it hits and it doesn't need to be precise. Rocket Devastators are the most threatening, as they fire a cluster of rockets at you and it usually only takes one to kill you (they are also suspiciously good at predicting your trajectory). Next are Heavy Devastators, who possess the combination of huge shield what blocks all your shots and a minigun that is really good at hitting you a bunch of times while you're trying to aim so the resulting flinch makes you miss them when you need to be precise. Finally, while basic Devastators don't have as high bullshit potential as the other two they are also giant bags of HP if you're not hitting them in the head and will kill you quite fast if you don't show them respect. LuiCypher fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Mar 14, 2024 |
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