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SimonChris posted:The Vagabond of Limbo 
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Mar 18, 2024 07:28
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I see the illustrator of RitD went to the Liefeld school of gun design.
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 One Day Outing Foreman chapter 35: Beautiful Dream (Finale)      In other news, the people translating Shinozaki's Daily Maintenance have finally finished volume 8 and it's real good. I'm real tempted to start posting it here in my evening food/chilling out block, but going to 4 series might be a bridge too far. Also I don't have time to write a recap tonight. All I'll say is this. People here have already commented on the relationship between a magician's power and their weirdness - the latest chapter clearly shows we had no idea just how weird a magician could get. Bloody hell.
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Mar 18, 2024 08:01
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Coca Koala posted:
Well, you weren't wrong.
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Tunicate posted:MS Paint Masterpieces MS Paint Masterpieces #475: Value Of Life - Fighting Of The Street  #477: Value Of Life - I Am Error  #478: Value Of Life - Mega Man VS Landscape  This, of course, references the fact that Dr. Light teaches you the hadouken and shoryuken in a couple megaman x easter eggs
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Mar 18, 2024 08:39
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fritz posted:Lunar Maladies I feel like Kat maybe should have been more prepared for this shady fucker, but maybe she just hasn't encountered a werewolf sociopath before. Or maybe she has somewhat exaggerated her previous experience?
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Sludge Knight: Gomorrah & Namekuji Part Two Content warning: Suicidal ideation      
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Mar 18, 2024 14:11
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Shaking lemur butt posted:I feel like Kat maybe should have been more prepared for this shady fucker, but maybe she just hasn't encountered a werewolf sociopath before. Or maybe she has somewhat exaggerated her previous experience? I'm enjoying Lunar Maladies but I definitely don't think that it'd survive much scrutiny. Better to just take it as a fun story and not think too much.
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Mar 18, 2024 15:23
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Shaking lemur butt posted:I feel like Kat maybe should have been more prepared for this shady fucker, but maybe she just hasn't encountered a werewolf sociopath before. Or maybe she has somewhat exaggerated her previous experience? Didn't she say she only recently took up the business after her parents got killed? I think she is supposed to be naive, so... maybe a little column A, column B? The way she speaks of lycanthropy victims she seems to sort them into "human" and "monster" categories and it doesn't occur to her that someone could embrace the curse and then turn around and pretend to be human.
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Mar 18, 2024 15:34
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Just from a position of social realism it seems like the main character's reaction to catching a deadly disease is the one that she's more prepared to interact with, most people in real life would be pretty annoyed about being turned into a monster and relieved to have medication to prevent it once they've accepted their condition. It's possible that Kat just hasn't even had to deal with someone like him up until this point, she's only 23 or something.
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Mar 18, 2024 15:41
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Mar 18, 2024 17:39
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Mar 18, 2024 19:14
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 - I hope you're not taking any liberties.  Top: - Now listen here, waiter, is this veal chops or pork chops? - Can sir not tell from the taste? - No. - Well, then it might not matter to sir which it is. Bottom: Dad, wake up, because it's time to sleep!  Top: - Is it blood? - No, it's wine. - One more misfortune. Bottom: Generous. - Go ahead and take a seat, my ladies!
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Mar 18, 2024 19:28
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 So you're saying he's not sponge worthy? 
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Mar 18, 2024 19:43
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SOUBOUTEI MUST BE DESTROYED   Gross   
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Mar 18, 2024 19:44
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Hyouge Mono Ceremony 64: Furuta Oribe and Hot Stuff     I honestly have no idea why Ishida is so offended by Rikyu's teahouse. Then again, I sort of get the impression Ishida is offended by most things, so  The Dragon, the Hero and the Courier Episode 32.5: The Secret Meeting of Men      Horny idiots... horny idiots never change...
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Lunar Maladies        one more update after this....
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decapitated with a penknife, rip
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Lavender Jack     No collusion here!
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Mar 18, 2024 21:26
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:decapitated with a penknife, rip It was more of a slicing motion, really
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Mar 18, 2024 21:35
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fritz posted:Lunar Maladies Wait, it's basically over? On the one hand that makes sense, given what just happened, on the other hand I really wasn't expecting such a quick and sudden resolution. I was assuming they'd wound him but he'd manage to run away to the forrest, forcing a final confrontation before he could kill any more innocents. I like this story a lot, but it has some weird pacing.
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Mar 18, 2024 21:48
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it doesn't have any pacing. it's like the owl comic but with idiots and wolves - there'll be like eight pages of them slowly driving around going "alfred lives there", and any actual denouement will be covered in half a page of blurry wagging tails
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Mar 18, 2024 21:54
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:it doesn't have any pacing. it's like the owl comic but with idiots and wolves - there'll be like eight pages of them slowly driving around going "alfred lives there", and any actual denouement will be covered in half a page of blurry wagging tails I think it's interesting. So much of it is just odd because it's almost a bit more real.
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Mar 18, 2024 22:09
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:it doesn't have any pacing. it's like the owl comic but with idiots and wolves - there'll be like eight pages of them slowly driving around going "alfred lives there", and any actual denouement will be covered in half a page of blurry wagging tails I think the idly meandering bits did a pretty good job of capturing a certain small town high school vibe. They didn't really mesh very well with having an actual plot, though, all the scene-building sort of falls by the wayside once it goes into exposition mode.
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Mar 18, 2024 22:31
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I think it's just a case of the creator needing to build some storytelling skills, which is pretty normal. Comics require a lot of different skills and it takes time and practice to hone them. This isn't derogatory, btw, I think it's good to be making and putting work out there and I don't dislike the werewolf comic.
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mycatscrimes posted:I think it's just a case of the creator needing to build some storytelling skills, which is pretty normal. Comics require a lot of different skills and it takes time and practice to hone them. This isn't derogatory, btw, I think it's good to be making and putting work out there and I don't dislike the werewolf comic. That's a good point. And so many of the necessary skills work against each other! I sort of tried combining my short story writing skill with my drawing skill, because comics are words and pictures, right? But they don't blend at all. As soon as you need to fit a speech bubble into a panel, all your art instincts for composition get thrown off-balance. And comic book dialogue isn't story dialog with 'she said'/'he replied' replaced with pictures; again, all of a writer's instinct for rhythm becomes useless. I've been trying and failing to put a particular short story into comic form for ages but it's built around a sense of quietness alternating with noise and... just transplanting the dialogue does not work. Valentine remained silent for a long moment. She took in the Kid’s acne and patchy moustache, and mentally placed a bet on how long he’d bother with his kneepads. “I’ve seen the paperwork,” said Valentine at last. She raised an eyebrow. “S’that an actual Swiss army knife there?” “It’s a survival tool,” said the Kid reproachfully. “For survival, in survival situations.” I'd almost be better off doing this comic with no speech bubbles at all; the words don't really matter. Hmm.
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Mar 18, 2024 23:14
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Tree Bucket posted:That's a good point. And so many of the necessary skills work against each other! Honestly I think very short no dialogue comics can be a great way to learn the basics of sequential storytelling! Then you can start working on adding words once you feel like you've figured out how to communicate a story visually. It's not the only way, but it narrows the amount of skills you have to learn down quite a bit. Thumbnailing and storyboarding is another good thing you can do to practice making comics. Of course, this is advice from someone who eventually gave up try to make comics because I have an art brain and no writing brain, so take with a grain of salt, lol The biggest thing I'd recommend though is looking at a variety of comics and trying to pick apart what they are doing and why it works. Comics that do a lot with a little, like Lavender Jack in this thread, are pretty great for this because they are doing their job extremely effectively, but because the visual style isn't complex, the pacing is fast, and the dialouge isn't more than it needs to be, it's approachable to study. Schadke is really amazing at efficient storytelling with words and pictures, and doing with style. mycatscrimes has a new favorite as of 23:39 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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Thinking about it, comics are an odd hybrid medium. Unlike a book, you have a chance to paint exact and detailed pictures of the scenes without describing them for hours and unlike a movie you can include quite a lot of internal thoughts without making it tedious. But the more text you use the less you can spent on visuals. It's a weird tradeoff. Book to movie adaptions often just suck because oftentimes those stories were just constructed for that particular medium and you can't just replace them 1 to 1. I think in theory for comic book adaptions it would be easier to stick a bit closer to the source. (That is, if the source doesn't suck of course.)
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I can't recommend Understanding Comics enough if you're interested in what makes comic storytelling tick. It's not the end-all of comic theory and it's probably getting dated now, but it's a great intro to the fundamentals. Edit: Comics theory sounds pretentious but you know what I'm trying to say I hope mycatscrimes has a new favorite as of 23:44 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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Samovar posted:I see the illustrator of RitD went to the Liefeld school of gun design. This is because big dumb laser guns are objectively cool Rainbow In The Dark     
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cant cook creole bream posted:Thinking about it, comics are an odd hybrid medium. Unlike a book, you have a chance to paint exact and detailed pictures of the scenes without describing them for hours and unlike a movie you can include quite a lot of internal thoughts without making it tedious. But the more text you use the less you can spent on visuals. It's a weird tradeoff. Yeah, "tradeoff" is definitely the word I was trying to hunt down. It's interesting to see Prince Valiant as an evolution of this idea- you've got the text below the image, possibly because Foster couldn't bear to cover his beautiful illustrations with ugly speech bubbles. Or Clown Corps, where the gags are all great gags but they are almost too much- they'd work great as an aside in an animation, but almost kill the flow of the comic. I'm trying to wrap my head around how it is possible to have one person writing and another illustrating a comic- how they would navigate that speech-image tradeoff- particularly in the case of movie adaptations, where what you're doing seems superficially similar to film but is actually drastically different. mycatscrimes posted:I can't recommend Understanding Comics enough if you're interested in what makes comic storytelling tick. It's not the end-all of comic theory and it's probably getting dated now, but it's a great intro to the fundamentals. Yep. Comics brain isn't art brain+write brain; it's a separate thing! (Anyway I've stopped caring about sounding pretentious, bring it on!) Have you posted any of your stuff to this thread? or did none of it make it out of the draft stage?
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Tree Bucket posted:Yeah, "tradeoff" is definitely the word I was trying to hunt down. It's interesting to see Prince Valiant as an evolution of this idea- you've got the text below the image, possibly because Foster couldn't bear to cover his beautiful illustrations with ugly speech bubbles. Or Clown Corps, where the gags are all great gags but they are almost too much- they'd work great as an aside in an animation, but almost kill the flow of the comic. In general, I try to keep my SA account and my art seperate because my art is all pretty tied to my real name. Thanks for your interest, though! Trust me, my attempts at comics are decades old and not worth looking at, I've learned to embrace visual art with narrative elements instead. : ) cant cook creole bream posted:Thinking about it, comics are an odd hybrid medium. Unlike a book, you have a chance to paint exact and detailed pictures of the scenes without describing them for hours and unlike a movie you can include quite a lot of internal thoughts without making it tedious. But the more text you use the less you can spent on visuals. It's a weird tradeoff. A comic I think is really interesting to look at is Nausicaa (the manga version). Maybe it's just me, but the panelling and compositions strike me as very cinematic in a way that is not usual for comics. It works really well and is gorgeous, and I believe at least the first part predates the movie. The reasons it strikes me this way are frustratingly kind of hard to articulate? Scenes are set very clearly, the framing of panel compositions makes me think of the kind of clarity employed by storyboards, and the economy of images, too. I feel like I'm seeing the result of someone very practiced in illustrating key scenes and sequences for animation in a clear way (and of course Miyazaki is, so it's no suprise). However on the other hand, you have the Watchmen movie, which was talked up for it's visual accuracy and went out of it's way to recreate panels, but still fell short as an adaptation. mycatscrimes has a new favorite as of 01:57 on Mar 19, 2024 |
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Tree Bucket posted:I'm trying to wrap my head around how it is possible to have one person writing and another illustrating a comic- how they would navigate that speech-image tradeoff- particularly in the case of movie adaptations, where what you're doing seems superficially similar to film but is actually drastically different. Traditionally there'd even be three people involved in that - the script writer writing the dialogue, the artist, and a letterer building the actual speech bubbles. I think the writer would typically sketch out the rough blocking of panels? I'm not really familiar with how the sausage is made for print comics though.
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Writers doing a rough layout used to be the norm but it's been a few decades since it became more common for writers to just give detailed descriptions of what goes on each panel (and that's not even getting into the Marvel Method). It's also pretty standard to have someone else do the colors, and it used to be pretty standard to also have a separate person do inks (though you see a lot more artists do their own inks these days)
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Jolyne Cujoh posted:This is because big dumb laser guns are objectively cool i'm enjoying this E: I just went to see if I'd want to read ahead but boy the webtoon version just does not work. So looks like you win this time PYF comics thread, I'll stick to thread pace! Regy Rusty has a new favorite as of 02:51 on Mar 19, 2024 |
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Yeah, I didn't notice on my first read through but after I learned that that's what they are doing with their other comic, I couldn't stop noticing every time they just zoom in further on the panel for a second dialog bubble. The PDFs are very cheap at least! You can get the whole series for $8 through Indyplanet, or you can find the whole series as a trade paperback on Amazon for ~$25
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And now, the thrilling conclusion of One (Groundhog) Day Outing Foreman! One Day Outing Foreman chapter 35: Beautiful Dream (Finale)        Folk music solves all problems. Here's the song if you're curious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbbBR-lTA3g dokkoi-sho
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