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Just got to Cosmo Canyon and think I'm gonna take a break and come back and finish rebirth later. The story beats are amazing but Chadley thoroughly ruins all of the open world stuff. He says zero interesting things and he's not funny. Truly awful design choice forcing the player to listen to his worthless rambling every time you complete a open world point of interest.
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Mustang posted:Just got to Cosmo Canyon and think I'm gonna take a break and come back and finish rebirth later. The story beats are amazing but Chadley thoroughly ruins all of the open world stuff. He says zero interesting things and he's not funny. Mute your controller
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Mar 18, 2024 19:09
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It's not just the sound, it's stopping gameplay for Cloud to pull out his dumb Chadley gizmo. It's unnecessary and I don't want to hear him, let alone zoom in on his face every time he speaks. It is honestly baffling that square wasted time putting it into the game. Main character may as well be Chadley with how much he has to say. And none of it is interesting!
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Mar 18, 2024 19:13
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It’s like 5 seconds
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Mar 18, 2024 19:13
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It's not elegant but at least some of the Chadley notifications are skippable just like full on cutscenes are. Hit pause and skip cutscene or hold triangle, though that honestly takes more time. I don't know what it all applies to I remember skipping the calls you get after every summoning shrine.
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Mar 18, 2024 19:18
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My only thoughts on Chadley is that he probably likes shorts because they're comfy and easy to wear
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Mar 18, 2024 19:23
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I don't hate Chadley, but I do think it's weird that they tied so much of the open world side stuff to him.
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Mar 18, 2024 19:29
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The way people get insanely controller-breaking furious over "a character said a line to me more than once" is just bewildering to me. How do you play other video games?
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Mar 18, 2024 19:29
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Because zero of it is interesting or adds to the game in any way. At least Mai says interesting things about the monsters you're fighting. Chadley just wastes the players time with pointless filler dialogue. I get it, he wants world Intel. He doesn't need to say it 1000 more times.
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Mar 18, 2024 19:34
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Mustang posted:Because zero of it is interesting or adds to the game in any way. Like it's not great but "I'm going to stop playing the game over it" is bonkers. So many games have small meaningless interactions and animations and while it wouldn't hurt if they were gone, I don't know how you can play most games on the market if a 5 second voice clip makes you stop playing a game. poo poo, Dragon's Dogma 2 is going to make some people kill themselves at this rate with Pawn dialogue.
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Mar 18, 2024 19:37
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ImpAtom posted:The way people get insanely controller-breaking furious over "a character said a line to me more than once" is just bewildering to me. How do you play other video games? Some people are just hyper-sensitive to "sights/sounds they don't like." My dad flips out and has to mute the TV any time there's a commercial that annoys him. Tbh I suspect it's sometimes caused by some untreated mental issue. In my dad's case I'm 90% sure he has ADD, since he's very easily bothered/distracted by things - he can't do phone calls if there's a TV on in the background, for example. All of this being said, it does kind of annoy me how Chadley has three lines of dialogue every time you talk to him to buy materia or do simulations. edit: Want to be clear that this isn't some "diagnosing mental illness online" post, which is why I said "sometimes." Some people are also just really irritable, or maybe they're just in a temporary bad/irritable mood. Like if I knew I only had a short time to play, I'd probably be a lot more annoyed by unnecessary time-wasting stuff like the Chadley dialogue. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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Mar 18, 2024 19:45
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ImpAtom posted:The way people get insanely controller-breaking furious over "a character said a line to me more than once" is just bewildering to me. How do you play other video games? It's a very common problem with a lot of videogames
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Mar 18, 2024 19:46
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Ytlaya posted:Some people are just hyper-sensitive to "sights/sounds they don't like." My dad flips out and has to mute the TV any time there's a commercial that annoys him. That's fair, I might be being too judgey over it. I know for some people those kind of things can drive them nuts.
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Mar 18, 2024 19:46
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Mustang posted:Because zero of it is interesting or adds to the game in any way. It's this. It's extremely uncomplicated. And even if you don't hate him in the open world, perhaps you might learn to hate him when you fail a couple challenges in the combat simulator so you can get smack-talked by a zero charisma AI as you rearrange materia, or skip collecting world intel (like is sometimes mandated by the plot!) so he can tell you he notices you've been slacking. He just sucks. MAI is fine. Their interplay is fine, if unfunny. I'm in chapter 11, and unless they radically overhaul his character in the next few chapters, I'm confident saying Chadley sucks and is a detractor on the overall experience.
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Mar 18, 2024 19:50
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I enjoy Chadley and his interactions  He gave me a CHAD device which was very funny
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Mar 18, 2024 19:54
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Lisztless posted:It's this. It's extremely uncomplicated. And even if you don't hate him in the open world, perhaps you might learn to hate him when you fail a couple challenges in the combat simulator so you can get smack-talked by a zero charisma AI as you rearrange materia, or skip collecting world intel (like is sometimes mandated by the plot!) so he can tell you he notices you've been slacking. He just sucks. Wait, are you seriously upset/bothered by him going "Don't worry, you can always try again" and viewing that as some kind of attack? Like does this massive hatred boil down to the fact that people think someone being blandly encouraging to them is insulting? Edit: Honestly this makes it all make more sense to me if somehow people view "a dorky kid encourages you" as some kind of like aggressive insult. The character is a good-natured dorky guy who is seemingly physically incapable of being insulting to anyone not named MAI. That's the entire joke is that everything he does is cheerful and good-natured because he's a giant nerd. Maybe it's something with his voice that makes people view it that way? ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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Mar 18, 2024 19:56
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A five track preview soundtrack is up on streaming services for anyone who cares.
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Mar 18, 2024 19:57
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Is Dragons Dogma 2 going to stop gameplay and zoom in on each pawn? No. Chadley would be less annoying if Cloud didn't have to stop and pull out his little gadget every time he has something to say.
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Mar 18, 2024 20:02
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Mustang posted:Is Dragons Dogma 2 going to stop gameplay and zoom in on each pawn? No. "A character stops and listens to another character say words" is a huge portion of video games. Like, yeah, we've gotten to the point where some dialogue happens as you're walking around now, but there's still plenty of cases where you stop and talk to an NPC and can't move around while talking, even if all the NPC has to say is the modern equivalent of "Welcome to Corneria!"
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Mar 18, 2024 20:05
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Heres the secret to dealing with Chadley open world gameplay: do as little of it as possible. Just enough to get the summon powerups or whatever, if even that. Treat the open world segments like an appetizer, and as soon as you get sick of it move on to the next course
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Mar 18, 2024 20:07
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Rhonne posted:I don't hate Chadley, but I do think it's weird that they tied so much of the open world side stuff to him. I dunno, part of the reason he exists seems to be to facilitate new game mechanics. And him being the arena fight and open world guy is part of that.
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Mar 18, 2024 20:08
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ImpAtom posted:Wait, are you seriously upset/bothered by him going "Don't worry, you can always try again" and viewing that as some kind of attack? Chadley is a socially akward, know it all android wunderkind, who's sharing random facts and advice completely unasked for, stopping the flow of the game all the time, which is annoying by itself and passive aggressive and a bit condescending at times. Some people get annoyed by any of these characteristics seperately, and he has every single one of them. And he also adds nothing to the game, as his entire thing could have been replicated by another bus stop vending machine. He is only annoying and has no redeeming qualities. He is, quite frankly, impressive in what an unlikeable character he is.
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Mar 18, 2024 20:13
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ImpAtom posted:Wait, are you seriously upset/bothered by him going "Don't worry, you can always try again" and viewing that as some kind of attack? I can't find any video evidence of it on a summary youtube search (and won't look further to avoid spoilers), but when I was bashing my head against the mind flayer combat simulator challenge with the two suicide adds, I exited the simulator to rearrange my materia and he said something along the lines of "oh, perhaps I made this challenge too difficult? I know you'll get it if you try again!" I'll admit I was already a little tilted, but hearing that passive-aggressive nonsense from a character I was already not fond of put the nail in the coffin for me.  And by the way, "massive hatred" is a monumental overstatement of my feelings about this character. He sucks a lot, but after 60 hours my distaste for him is clearly not insurmountable.
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Bland posted:Meanwhile I thought I was safe going into round 5 with with over 150 points and an 85 point lead with only two crappy cactuars remaining in my hand only for the AI to score 87 points while I looked on helplessly Queen's Blood Nightmarish Survival talk: I've spent some time trying mine out, and I've gotten 4 or 5 wins with over 100 points each by now, so I'm prepared to call it "pretty dang repeatable". If you wanna try it out, here's the gist: It's a slighly modified version of the deck from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdZMqxVI5vs
You gotta keep a couple minor details in mind. When a card dies, the space underneath will only return with one pip, and a few of the cards need more than that (Moogle Trio, J-squad, the 2nd Mindflayer after doing the Resurrected Amalgam double kill), so make sure to play those early so you don't end up with all 1-pip squares and no fodder left to bump them up. You also want to make sure you have a 3-pip square for the J-squad as your penultimate card. It's very likely you won't be able to set up the 2nd King Tonberry to accumulate power, in which case just feed it to the Mindflayer. It's also quite possible you end up with only 2 or 3 of the Mindflayer's active spaces to work with - that's totally fine too. It's come very close, but the opponent has never managed to outscore me with this. I have had a few attempts die because I couldn't get the setup in place, though. Instant Grat fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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Mar 18, 2024 20:14
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Chadley was great in Remake and his mannerisms being weird and a bit annoying were part of the joke. Taking that, having it repeat many many times in the open world gameplay and coupling it with an unskippable CHAD module animation tipped it over the edge. I just glazed over after Corel but I can see how you could get infuriated at that. He would be much better if there was a beedlybeep and he played in the background, without the animation! mrpwase fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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Mar 18, 2024 20:15
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I think he’s a lot better now tbh.
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Mar 18, 2024 20:16
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Cephas posted:Heres the secret to dealing with Chadley open world gameplay: I would but theres also materia, boss fights and protorelic stuff at which point oops you've done them all.
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Mar 18, 2024 20:17
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Chadley moments are there so you have a good free second to smoke weed
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Mar 18, 2024 20:18
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OK, so chapter 12 runaround stuff I did the four pirate coves and crafted the compass and found a bunch of pirate jetsam. Apparently you can craft things with them but... where are the recipes? My crafting level is just under 16 with all possible things crafted, and all region data complete so there's no more transmuter chips to find. What do I gotta do to use these? Plenty of content farm articles online about what recipes use the jetsam but none of them actually say how you get the recipes! Unless I have to wait for Kid G to finally call me back or something.
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Mar 18, 2024 20:26
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Thundarr posted:OK, so chapter 12 runaround stuff I did the four pirate coves and crafted the compass and found a bunch of pirate jetsam. Apparently you can craft things with them but... where are the recipes? My crafting level is just under 16 with all possible things crafted, and all region data complete so there's no more transmuter chips to find. What do I gotta do to use these? Plenty of content farm articles online about what recipes use the jetsam but none of them actually say how you get the recipes! Unless I have to wait for Kid G to finally call me back or something. You'll need to keep going with the story until you get the call. Note that you can't craft everything until Hard Mode is unlocked. The top-tier stuff requires a maxed out (to that point) crafting level and that requires drops you can only get from Hard Mode. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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Mar 18, 2024 20:28
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Thundarr posted:OK, so chapter 12 runaround stuff I did the four pirate coves and crafted the compass and found a bunch of pirate jetsam. Apparently you can craft things with them but... where are the recipes? My crafting level is just under 16 with all possible things crafted, and all region data complete so there's no more transmuter chips to find. What do I gotta do to use these? Plenty of content farm articles online about what recipes use the jetsam but none of them actually say how you get the recipes! Unless I have to wait for Kid G to finally call me back or something. I haven't done this myself but as far as I know the recipes are at the end of the protorelic line
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Thundarr posted:OK, so chapter 12 runaround stuff I did the four pirate coves and crafted the compass and found a bunch of pirate jetsam. Apparently you can craft things with them but... where are the recipes? My crafting level is just under 16 with all possible things crafted, and all region data complete so there's no more transmuter chips to find. What do I gotta do to use these? Plenty of content farm articles online about what recipes use the jetsam but none of them actually say how you get the recipes! Unless I have to wait for Kid G to finally call me back or something. You unlock some recipes that use those from the Battle Square
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Chadley continues to be GOATed
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I think he’s a lot better now tbh. Chadley is fine.
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Bland posted:You unlock some recipes that use those from the Battle Square Thanks, I didn't actually check there yet.
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Mar 18, 2024 21:08
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its cool that the bad guys give you a cool purple sword after beating you up and implying that they'll sell the girls (and the dog and cat?) into sex slavery
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Mar 18, 2024 21:16
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mst4k posted:Chadley is fine. I think an improved Chadley mostly just ends up at Fine, yeah.
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mistermojo posted:its cool that the bad guys give you a cool purple sword after beating you up and implying that they'll sell the girls (and the dog and cat?) into sex slavery I don't like that sword because I feel like its aesthetic clashes with the setting. Also don't like the crystal sword for similar reasons. The one after that is cool, though. My favorite type of weapon to get is Barret guns, since it's always fun seeing what badass new gun-hand he's getting next.
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I do miss Barret's melee weapons even if objectively they sucked and I never used them, and even when they gave me their move in Rebirth I still barely used them.
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ImpAtom posted:I do miss Barret's melee weapons even if objectively they sucked and I never used them, and even when they gave me their move in Rebirth I still barely used them. It was very funny to use Maximum Fury with them equipped, though.
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