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Professor Beetus posted:Hasn't there been a ton of stuff that's come out in the last several years regarding DNA being kind of a bunk science, or at least pretty bad as it's applied to criminology? I thought I read stuff about it here on SA. Quick googling brought up an Atlantic article that was paywalled but there were also a few law web sites and a jstor article that came up referencing that the reliability of DNA evidence does not live up to its reputation. DNA is fine i believe, its just a bunch of surrounding stuff that is mixed. Hieronymous Alloy posted:There is this guy who says he has data to show serial killers are operating they're just getting ignored: this. there are still tons of serial killers out there. its just they tend to target people who the media and cops dont give a gently caress about(unhoused, native americans, POC, LGBTQ ) and probably in places people wont miss them.
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DNA is a fine forensic tool and not junk science, cops are just... not, overall, good at their jobs, and that ends up reflected in how they use their tools.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:A tale of two housing policies: it's often unspoken, but this rational is why i'm confident that the national affordability crisis will continue unless and until a seismic social event forces a change pew research found last year that the median homeowner has 45% of their overall net worth in their primary residence. it's higher for non-white ethnicities. given the significant uncertainty most households express about their ability to retire, very few homeowners will support policies that would significantly improve affordability, it would make their own precarious retirement situation even worse https://www.pewresearch.org/race-ethnicity/2023/12/04/the-assets-households-own-and-the-debts-they-carry/
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Home prices in Phoenix are insane. A friend purchased her house in 2016 for 115k. It's now worth around 400k. I've seen townhouses that sold for 20k in 2012 going for over 200k now. I don't see how it's sustainable.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:DNA is fine i believe, its just a bunch of surrounding stuff that is mixed. GlyphGryph posted:DNA is a fine forensic tool and not junk science, cops are just... not, overall, good at their jobs, and that ends up reflected in how they use their tools. I'm not saying it's junk science, but if collection, storage, and analysis are all plagued with problems from start to finish because of the incompetence of the people handling it, and there's a solid chance of contamination even before that, it just doesn't seem like the 99% accurate silver bullet as portrayed by both fictional and news media. e: oh I did say bunk science in my original post, not what I meant, sorry Professor Beetus fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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Professor Beetus posted:Hasn't there been a ton of stuff that's come out in the last several years regarding DNA being kind of a bunk science, or at least pretty bad as it's applied to criminology? I thought I read stuff about it here on SA. Quick googling brought up an Atlantic article that was paywalled but there were also a few law web sites and a jstor article that came up referencing that the reliability of DNA evidence does not live up to its reputation.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:it's often unspoken, but this rational is why i'm confident that the national affordability crisis will continue unless and until a seismic social event forces a change I am concerned that, like the transition to dual-income families that started in the 1970's, people are more likely to transition to multi-family and multi-generational homes than to work towards any beneficial social or legal change. IE people retiring to live with their children rather than working to affect change to laws regarding retirement.
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Push El Burrito posted:Home prices in Phoenix are insane. A friend purchased her house in 2016 for 115k. It's now worth around 400k. I've seen townhouses that sold for 20k in 2012 going for over 200k now. I don't see how it's sustainable. 2008 taught us that housing prices will always go up forever, and that making decisions based on that fact is very, very wise.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I know Radley Balko (who writes a lot about criminology and the police) has done a bunch of writing about how much junk science there is like bite mark analysis, or blood spatter analysis I had a long conversation with a forensic tech once where he flat out acknowledged that firearm forensics and ballistic analysis are basically junk science, and that there's not much evidence to support the idea that someone can conclusively prove that any given bullet definitely came from any given gun. The way he put it is that the best they can do is say with decent confidence when a bullet definitely didn't come from a specific gun, but even then it sounds like it comes down to a lot of unscientific judgment calls on the part of the ballistics expert. That said I did some looking around after that conversation and for every paper saying "this is all bunk" you can find a couple that say "with appropriate training it's highly accurate" but I don't know enough to evaluate the accuracy of either claim.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Also, because the Department of Defense objected to increased density and new construction near military bases. DoD never likes having residential stuff too close to bases because it's bad publicity when something they own crashes into a residential building. https://www.cnn.com/2012/04/06/us/virginia-plane-crash/index.html Luckily, it happened in the middle of the day, and no one was home at the time of the crash, so there weren't any fatalities. The governor's citation of DoD's stance is pretty much just out of convenience, in my opinion; DoD opposition to having anything close to a base is basically a permanent fixture everywhere.
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MockingQuantum posted:I had a long conversation with a forensic tech once where he flat out acknowledged that firearm forensics and ballistic analysis are basically junk science, and that there's not much evidence to support the idea that someone can conclusively prove that any given bullet definitely came from any given gun. The way he put it is that the best they can do is say with decent confidence when a bullet definitely didn't come from a specific gun, but even then it sounds like it comes down to a lot of unscientific judgment calls on the part of the ballistics expert. With ballistics analysis you typically can't prove that it came from that specific gun. Guns tend to be too mass produced for that. Exceptions do exist, rarely. However, you can prove that it came from that MODEL of gun, which usually tends to narrow things down a lot. That's why it is used in conjunction with proving that someone has that model of gun. It means that they had the means to have done the killing with that sort of gun. It does, in fact, boil down to "with appropriate training it's highly accurate" which is true of pretty much all science stuff. Which is why people can get away with calling a lot of that stuff bunk, because well....... appropriate training? Police? It's not more likely than you'd think.
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Lumpy posted:2008 taught us that housing prices will always go up forever, and that making decisions based on that fact is very, very wise. This has generally been the case over the long term even when you do consider recovery from 2008. There’s a lot of wishful thinking in the belief that numbers have to crash just because they’re high.
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Housing can not continue to grow at a rate that outpaces inflation/wage increases without ceasing to function as housing.
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poop device posted:I am concerned that, like the transition to dual-income families that started in the 1970's, people are more likely to transition to multi-family and multi-generational homes than to work towards any beneficial social or legal change. IE people retiring to live with their children rather than working to affect change to laws regarding retirement. Multi generational housing had been the norm before the 20th century, it's just a reversion to the norm.
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Professor Beetus posted:Hasn't there been a ton of stuff that's come out in the last several years regarding DNA being kind of a bunk science, or at least pretty bad as it's applied to criminology? I thought I read stuff about it here on SA. Quick googling brought up an Atlantic article that was paywalled but there were also a few law web sites and a jstor article that came up referencing that the reliability of DNA evidence does not live up to its reputation. There's nothing fundamentally wrong with the basic concept of using DNA analysis to identify people, but real-life crime scenes often don't provide sufficient-quality evidence to be able to reliably obtain exact matches, and the actual process of figuring out partial matches is often just made up by forensics people based on gut feeling, with no real scientific or statistical work being done to examine the methods used. However, because juries have a high opinion of forensic techniques' reliability, and forensics teams themselves are in the position of trying to make a conviction, it's typical for forensic identifications to be given far greater credence than is really merited. For example, fingerprints on their own are fairly reliable for identifying people. If someone who does fingerprinting for a day job takes someone's prints twice, it's going to be pretty easy to tell that the two prints are from the same person. But in real-world crime scenes, you're more likely to see something like a badly-smudged half-a-fingerprint. How do you tell if that print that you can barely even see any details of is the same as the high-quality print you just took off a subject? It's basically up to the subjective judgment of the fingerprint examiner whether those two prints are from the same person or not, and very little actual scientific work has been done in that particular field. While fingerprint examiners do have their own procedures and techniques, they're largely pseudoscientific stuff, invented by cops rather than scientists, that's never really been studied or evaluated. And in fact there have been several high-profile cases where forensic fingerprint identifications were found to be mistaken. Some of them were simply human error on the part of the examiners, while others involved police agencies deliberately exaggerating fingerprint evidence for their own purposes, and there's even been cases where the police outright faked fingerprint evidence. But because forensic evidence is generally held in high regard by the population, and is difficult to challenge because of its reliance on the opinions of individual experts, it's rare for fingerprint misidentifications to ever be discovered, and so there's probably a lot more misidentifications (both unintentional and intentional) than anyone actually knows about. Pretty much all of that applies to DNA as well. While we're pretty good at "this strand of DNA is exactly like this other strand of DNA" when working with lab samples, crime scene DNA is often in poor condition and provides an incomplete partial profile that's incapable of producing an actual exact match, leaving it up to the personal judgment of the investigators and analysts to determine who that DNA might be pointing to. There have also been a number of cases where DNA evidence turned out to be incorrect for some reason. But again, because DNA evidence is held in such high regard (even moreso than fingerprints), it's extremely difficult to challenge, and usually bad matches are discovered only in egregious cases, such as the suspect being in a coma during the time period the murder was thought to have occurred during.
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MockingQuantum posted:I had a long conversation with a forensic tech once where he flat out acknowledged that firearm forensics and ballistic analysis are basically junk science, and that there's not much evidence to support the idea that someone can conclusively prove that any given bullet definitely came from any given gun. The way he put it is that the best they can do is say with decent confidence when a bullet definitely didn't come from a specific gun, but even then it sounds like it comes down to a lot of unscientific judgment calls on the part of the ballistics expert. The DNA evidence was all expressed in probable match and didn't really help one side or the other, it felt like they only tested it to show they tried or something.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Being horrified at how many of my fellow human beings were complaining that washing your hands for 10 seconds straight was way too long and took forever. Then, learning that about 40% of American men say they don't use soap to wash their hands after using the bathroom. I have seen people in my company's bathroom where they just wave their hand under the faucet to start the water and then leave. I guess they're just doing it for appearances? Like wtf. Also people taking a poo poo and being on a meeting at the same time. loving gross. I don't even bring my phone into the bathroom because it's loving gross.
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Rumors are circling that RFK Jr. has picked Nicole Shanahan as his VP candidate. Who is Nicole Shanahan? -president of the Bia-Echo Foundation, a private foundation that invests in DEI/ESG buzzwords -former wife of Google founder Sergey Brin -Major donor to American Values 2024, the group behind the RFK Jr. Super Bowl ad -Donor to Buttigieg and Williamson in 2020 -Someone willing to just ask questions about vaccines haveblue fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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haveblue posted:Rumors are circling that RFK Jr. has picked Nicole Shanahan as his VP candidate. Vaccine skeptic, Marianne Williamson/Pete donor, and Elon Musk fucker is a weird personal political journey. quote:In 2022, the Wall Street Journal reported that Brin had filed for divorce after Shanahan allegedly had a brief affair with tech billionaire Elon Musk.
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haveblue posted:Rumors are circling that RFK Jr. has picked Nicole Shanahan as his VP candidate. Based off the first entry, I severely doubt it's her, just because of the DEI/ESG connections.
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PharmerBoy posted:Housing can not continue to grow at a rate that outpaces inflation/wage increases without ceasing to function as housing. Up here in western Canada we call housing an investment.
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SpeedFreek posted:They didn't even say they could confirm the caliber in the trial I was on but did report the weight of all the fragments of each bullet and that it was approximately the weight of a .40 bullet. I recall some prosecutor or whoever complaining years ago about the CSI: Placename effect where juries expected DNA evidence all the time for every sort of crime. “Pretty great case for wirefraud, but where’s the DNA evidence?”
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Young Freud posted:Based off the first entry, I severely doubt it's her, just because of the DEI/ESG connections. Why? RFK's views don't fall significantly into any particular American political group's positions. He has supported various environmental causes and supported the Green New Deal, for example. He's certainly more aligned with the right wing nowadays but he's not exactly discount Trump. A lot of his medical and scientific views would have been just as associated with left-wing movements a decade ago or 2 ago. koolkal fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Mar 18, 2024 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Vaccine skeptic, Marianne Williamson/Pete donor, and Elon Musk fucker is a weird personal political journey. Not really. Musk and Williamson are both vaccine skeptics too. And Musk wasn't widely regarded as a political figure back when the alleged affair supposedly took place. Besides, her Buttigieg donations were pre-COVID.
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Oracle posted:They apparently have an envelope he sent to either the cops or media with DNA on it, iirc. I think they’re just waiting for the technology to get more reliable since it’s a one shot deal.
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According to an FBI whistleblower the FBI ran the DNA and learned who it belonged to years ago but the guy it belonged has since died so they refuse to officially close the case.
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Eric Cantonese posted:I'm also still amazed that guy was able to get close enough to throw a shoe at GWB, but I'm sure it's more challenging to keep things secure outside the US. I mean short of a plexi glass barrier you can lob a shoe pretty drat far
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. yeah. i think the media does a diservice by paining most serial killers as like these super smart dexter types. most arnt, they are usually fundimentally busted human beings that make trump look empathetic. i always recomment reading jack olsens book about true crime because it mostly focuses on the victims/families and also shows that most of these monsters as pathetic pieces of poo poo. There's a great book called Violence by James Gilligan that does a series of case studies on murderers. Lots of weird magical thinking stuff.
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If there was only one house, its value would approach infinity. Therefore destroy all housing.
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Mendrian posted:If there was only one house, its value would approach infinity. Therefore destroy all housing. To acquire the Number One House you must first defeat and acquire the Number Two House.
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Mendrian posted:If there was only one house, its value would approach infinity. Therefore destroy all housing. build the space elevator house
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Build one house with 8 billion apartments, use the rest of the planet for sustainable farming and energy
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haveblue posted:Build one house with 8 billion apartments, use the rest of the planet for sustainable farming and energy 
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The Artificial Kid posted:What? They can fully sequence it now. What are they waiting for? quote:Vallejo Mayor Bob Sampayan said the samples were sent to the lab as a matter of routine. Sampayan, a former homicide detective, said police submit samples every couple of years in hopes that advances in DNA testing will finally yield a profile detectives can use. They can now use human hair (without the root)! So if you have one of those death lockets or whatever with your dead ancestors hair in it you could get that tested.
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Raenir Salazar posted:To acquire the Number One House you must first defeat and acquire the Number Two House. There can only be one Master (the house) and one Apprentice (the garage).
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haveblue posted:Build one house with 8 billion apartments, use the rest of the planet for sustainable farming and energy WH 40k hive world when
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DarkHorse posted:WH 40k hive world when Well, on one hand, we live in a sewer where all the water is chemical factory runoff, we can get some low-end soilent green if we're lucky, and the indigenous man-eating monsters who lived here before there was ever a human are now thriving. On the other hand, we don't pay rent.
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Push El Burrito posted:Home prices in Phoenix are insane. A friend purchased her house in 2016 for 115k. It's now worth around 400k. I've seen townhouses that sold for 20k in 2012 going for over 200k now. I don't see how it's sustainable.
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Name Change posted:Well, on one hand, we live in a sewer where all the water is chemical factory runoff, we can get some low-end soilent green if we're lucky, and the indigenous man-eating monsters who lived here before there was ever a human are now thriving. This would be a lot better if I could finally roll a Toughness or Wounds increase instead of all these marginally useful skills.
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https://twitter.com/davidfolkenflik/status/1770109731996045314 Gannet owns dozens of major dailies, they will not be able to replicate AP coverage in house. They will just not have those stories anymore. It's hard for me to imagine publishing a major daily without AP stories, especially foreign bureaus.
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