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Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Guavanaut posted:

Yes we're Global Britane now


That *edit* person.. has totally ruined the thumbs up gesture for me.

I look back at old photo's where I'm doing it & cringe...

*edit* because I forgot which thread I'm in.

Trainee PornStar fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Mar 20, 2024

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Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Trainee PornStar posted:

That oval office has totally ruined the thumbs up gesture for me.

I look back at old photo's where I'm doing it & cringe...

Try not to define yourself based on that oval office, follow the way of The Fonz. :thumbsup:

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

el dingo posted:

Huh? Don't you just show up at the border and get stamped for 90 days? I've been to France 4 times since brexit and all I needed was my passport

When did you last go? I went in 2022 and didn't need anything. But this is on the gov.uk site

quote:

Proof of accommodation and funds
You may need to show proof of where you intend to stay. Read about documents you may need for short stays on the French government website. This will differ depending on where you are staying.

Staying with family, friends or a third party
You may be asked to provide an ‘attestation d’accueil’ (welcome invitation) from your host. The French resident hosting you must get the ‘attestation d’accueil’ from their local mayor’s office, and send the original ‘attestation’ before you enter France. Be prepared to show proof that you have at least €32.50 euros a day for the duration of your stay.

...

Other circumstances
If you do not have an ‘attestation d’accueil’ (welcome invitation) or any pre-booked accommodation, you may be asked to prove you have at least €120 euros a day for the duration of your stay.

For more information on these requirements, visit the French government’s website on travel conditions for British citizens.

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france/entry-requirements

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Just Another Lurker posted:

Try not to define yourself based on that oval office, follow the way of The Fonz. :thumbsup:

I'm slowly training myself to throw the horns instead of thumbs up...

It's equally wanky but at least Boris doesn't do it.

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

The Question IRL posted:

Why is it called "the 1922 Commission "?
Like wasn't that the year that Ireland officially left the UK?

Great year for Conservatives one would imagine.

The 1922 election was the first that the Conservatives won a parliamentary majority after the WW1 years in coalition and before that the spell of Liberal governments in the 1900s.

After 1922 the Conservatives suddenly had a huge number of seats in the Commons, which meant loads of backbenchers, most of which were new to parliament. A group of newcomers did the very Tory thing of forming a dining club to coordinate and campaign and after a few years it became the voice of the back bench, seen as a safeguard of Conservative views against the more progressive policies of Stanley Baldwin.

Now the 1922 Committee is basically the 'voice' of the parliamentary Conservatives that hold the leadership to account - yes, it is ironically a sort of workplace democracy committee for Tory MPs. The leadership has to appear before the committee at regular intervals to gain support for their policies and action from the back bench, and it's the head of the 1922 Committee to whom Tory MPs send letters of no confidence when they want to ditch the leader.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
room full of tories banging on the tables. they're probably all going "eeeeaaaahhhhh" and "aaaaaaaayyyyyy" and whatever. at least 70% of the people in this room have been blind drunk since 9am. this is where the democracy happens

el dingo
Mar 19, 2009


Ogres are like onions

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

When did you last go? I went in 2022 and didn't need anything.

A few weeks ago but granted that was for work. I've only been once for leisure and I think that was Jan 2022, shortly after they reopened the border to Brits post COVID. That stuff you posted from the website does seem vaguely familiar but I think I ignored it all, they only wanted to see vaccines and stuff

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Good news. Top Gear is back!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6igJRJSJ9o

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive
stupid loving country lol. what a waste of time

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/20/rwanda-bill-likely-to-be-stalled-at-least-till-april-after-seven-defeats-in-the-lords

quote:

Rwanda bill likely to be stalled at least till April after seven defeats in the Lords

Peers voted for numerous amendments making it improbable the legislation will return to the Commons this side of Easter

Rishi Sunak’s flagship Rwanda deportation bill is expected to be put on hold until at least next month after the House of Lords inflicted seven defeats on Wednesday.

The safety of Rwanda (asylum and immigration) bill, which aims to block Strasbourg from halting the removal of asylum seekers to east Africa, is not expected to return to the Commons until after the Easter break.

Any delay could make it increasingly difficult to fulfil the prime minister’s plan to see flights take off for Kigali by the spring.

The legislation is central to the Conservative government’s pledge to “stop the boats”. Ministers have claimed that the bill will deter people from travelling across the Channel.

In the wake of the defeats, the Labour peer Shami Chakrabarti said: “Given that the prime minister has bet the house on this post-truth bill, these further Lords defeats leave his credibility even more denuded.

“Arguments about the international and domestic rule of law hit home and home is where many Conservative peers seem to have stayed.”

Peers voted by 271 to 228, majority 43, to press their demand that the legislation has “due regard” for domestic and international law; they backed an amendment by 285 to 230 votes that states Rwanda is only deemed to be safe for as long as the provisions of the UK’s treaty are in place; and a linked amendment regarding the monitoring of Rwanda’s safety was also voted through.

Peers voted 276 to 226 in favour of the crossbench peer David Hope’s amendment, which lays out how it is to be decided whether the provisions of the Rwanda treaty are in force. Another amendment by Lady Chakrabarti – that removes a key clause declaring Rwanda a “safe country” in the decision of individual asylum claims – was voted through by a majority of 30.

The government suffered another defeat when peers backed a change to its Rwanda Bill regarding the age assessment of unaccompanied children.

The bill came back to the Lords after MPs on Monday voted down 10 amendments to the draft law proposed by peers earlier this month. It has to be passed to activate the deal that would allow the UK to send asylum seekers to Rwanda. It has so far cost taxpayers up to £600m and has been signed off by three Conservative prime ministers since 2022.

The bill must return to the Commons in a process known as “ping pong”, where it is batted between the two parliamentary chambers until they can agree the final wording. Labour has suggested it will not seek to block the bill completely.

Before the bill returned to the Lords, the illegal immigration minister Michael Tomlinson described the proposals put forward by peers as “wrecking amendments”.

Another vote is expected to wait until MPs return from their Easter break on 15 April. Sources said the government will not clear the Commons schedule to allow votes next week.

No 10 officials insist that even if the legislation is not passed until after Easter, the goal of the first deportations taking place this spring could still be met.

As well as suffering defeats in the Lords, Sunak is under pressure from the right of his party after the Home Office said it would pay some asylum seekers thousands of pounds to move to Kigali.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

If I were Rwanda and wanted to gain international brownie points, I would reject the entire UK effort here and return the money which I think they already said they would do if exporting asylum seekers was against international law.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Trainee PornStar posted:

That *edit* person.. has totally ruined the thumbs up gesture for me.

I look back at old photo's where I'm doing it & cringe...

*edit* because I forgot which thread I'm in.

This may be D&D but this is a commonwealth thread, you can call noted oval office Boris "The oval office" Johnson a oval office.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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Mega Comrade posted:

I just objected to a local building application for 250 homes. I'm officially a nimby :okboomer:

Why are you objecting to them?

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Affect my house price

Local services at breaking point

Anecdote about a traffic jam

Not in keeping with the village aesthetic

Set a precedent

Evil developers

Crested Newts

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Tesseraction posted:

This may be D&D but this is a commonwealth thread, you can call noted oval office Boris "The oval office" Johnson a oval office.

Thank you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP5-KpgGO3o

deletebeepbeepbeep
Nov 12, 2008

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Affect my house price

Local services at breaking point

Anecdote about a traffic jam

Not in keeping with the village aesthetic

Set a precedent

Evil developers

Crested Newts

Gonna flood my back yard.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
There was a great one in my village where there was planning in for a pair of semi detached houses. They have been built and are for sale for half a million a pop.

But the redacted person's complaint is that they live across the road and they do not want to look at semi detached houses.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Josef bugman posted:

Why are you objecting to them?

250 more homes.
No new shops.
No changes to public transport routes which already suck.
No changes to the main road and it's got one entrance.
Already takes about 3 weeks to see the GP round here.

To complete it off, it's on a greenfield site that's home to an abundance of wildlife.

deletebeepbeepbeep
Nov 12, 2008

NotJustANumber99 posted:

There was a great one in my village where there was planning in for a pair of semi detached houses. They have been built and are for sale for half a million a pop.

But the redacted person's complaint is that they live across the road and they do not want to look at semi detached houses.

The snobby ones are the best, people complaining about social housing like it's going to turn the area into 1970s era Bronx from their right to buy house but in the same paragraph moaning that the hospital is hosed (yeah it's hosed because the jobs don't pay enough for people to live there, well and decades worth of underfunding).

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Affect my house price

Local services at breaking point

Anecdote about a traffic jam

Not in keeping with the village aesthetic

Set a precedent

Evil developers

Crested Newts


Mega Comrade posted:

250 more homes.
No new shops.
No changes to public transport routes which already suck.
No changes to the main road and it's got one entrance.
Already takes about 3 weeks to see the GP round here.

To complete it off, it's on a greenfield site that's home to an abundance of wildlife.

Lol

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

NotJustANumber99 posted:


Not in keeping with the village aesthetic


Houses too L-shaped, pilings have disrupted the Earth's crust and released Morlocks

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Mega Comrade posted:

250 more homes.
No new shops.
No changes to public transport routes which already suck.
No changes to the main road and it's got one entrance.
Already takes about 3 weeks to see the GP round here.

To complete it off, it's on a greenfield site that's home to an abundance of wildlife.

They are the same objections that many in my rural town are using in an attempt to block a few proposed developments. I was asked to get involved with the objections here, but I didn't feel as though my increased inconvenience was justification to deny 200+ families a home.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I feel like ideally it should be sent back to the developers saying "build it properly or it doesn't get built" and it does seem odd to say that badly built estates of badly built houses are good because at least it's a house?

Like the lovely houses on lovely estates are just putting more burden on the place they're built that everyone then has to foot the bill to fix later down the line while the developers pocket millions. You wouldn't be in favour of deregulating any other aspect of the public space so why would it be different for urban planning?

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive
what if we built houses so people could live in them

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
loving communist

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Nuclear Spoon posted:

what if we built houses so people could live in them

Yes but I already have a house, so any additional houses are obviously unnecessary and an affront to me personally.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
I went to Paris in November for leisure and they just check your passport and wave you through. Anyway, it takes ages to build 250 homes so that's plenty of time to get some extra shops and buses sorted

Starbucks
Jul 7, 2002

Your daily cup of fuck you.
As someone in a new build on the edge of a village and nice countryside: lol

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive
oh speaking of travel - i have booked myself a short trip to napoli in may on the cheapest ryanair flight available. how stringent do they tend to be about bag sizes

Starbucks
Jul 7, 2002

Your daily cup of fuck you.
Put all your clothes in a pillowcase and use it as a pillow on the flight

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Just wear 3 pairs of trousers and 6 shirts onto the plane: nobody can stop you doing that.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Nuclear Spoon posted:

oh speaking of travel - i have booked myself a short trip to napoli in may on the cheapest ryanair flight available. how stringent do they tend to be about bag sizes

On the whole pretty strict. Slightly more leeway on a non-full flight but not much.
I have an exact ryanair-sized 20l bag. My backpack which I would prefer to use (as the ryanair-sized one doesn't have back straps & hurts my shoulder to carry) is also 20l but is the wrong shape to fit in their gauge at the airport.
I have seen people take 20l backpacks on though. I guess I'm just not willing to risk an additional cost more than the price of the ticket if they decide to be fussy one day.
(I do try to travel with just 20L now though! The days of the 18kg suitcase - most of the contents of which are never used - are gone. Holidays get planned round laundrettes! The only place I couldn't find a laundrette was Luxembourg.).

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

On the whole pretty strict. Slightly more leeway on a non-full flight but not much.
I have an exact ryanair-sized 20l bag. My backpack which I would prefer to use (as the ryanair-sized one doesn't have back straps & hurts my shoulder to carry) is also 20l but is the wrong shape to fit in their gauge at the airport.
I have seen people take 20l backpacks on though. I guess I'm just not willing to risk an additional cost more than the price of the ticket if they decide to be fussy one day.
(I do try to travel with just 20L now though! The days of the 18kg suitcase - most of the contents of which are never used - are gone. Holidays get planned round laundrettes! The only place I couldn't find a laundrette was Luxembourg.).

Think it was mentioned on the BBC site that Ryanair was reducing the size of the carry on baggage... i didn't pay any attention to it but you may want to check.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Just Another Lurker posted:

Think it was mentioned on the BBC site that Ryanair was reducing the size of the carry on baggage... i didn't pay any attention to it but you may want to check.

Thanks for the heads up - just checked, it's still showing the same dimensions for the 20l bag 40cm x 25cm x 20cm
Otherwise I might have to invest in a vest https://ayegear.com/products/ayegear-v26-vest

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I feel like that's a good way to get murdered by the transport cops for wearing a bomb vest if you go with that thing loaded up.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

OwlFancier posted:

I feel like that's a good way to get murdered by the transport cops for wearing a bomb vest if you go with that thing loaded up.

It's ok, I'm white.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Nuclear Spoon posted:

oh speaking of travel - i have booked myself a short trip to napoli in may on the cheapest ryanair flight available. how stringent do they tend to be about bag sizes

I was on a Ryanair flight on Sunday from Birmingham and at no point did anyone check to see if my backpack was within the size limit (it is)

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


fuctifino posted:

They are the same objections that many in my rural town are using in an attempt to block a few proposed developments. I was asked to get involved with the objections here, but I didn't feel as though my increased inconvenience was justification to deny 200+ families a home.

I mean sure, but developers really should have a legal responsibility to upgrade infrastructure when building a sizeable number of new houses. Subsidise bus services for X years, fund improvements to sewers and power infrastructure, bare minimum stuff, and then ideally over a certain size there should be a pharmacy, shop, a GP surgery, at some point a primary school. Not to mention a much higher proportion of actually affordable property.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Angepain posted:

room full of tories banging on the tables. they're probably all going "eeeeaaaahhhhh" and "aaaaaaaayyyyyy" and whatever. at least 70% of the people in this room have been blind drunk since 9am. this is where the democracy happens

I very specifically remember that my first serious engagement with this thread was during the phone hacking hearings, and one of my first questions was "so uh what's up with the zombie groans, is this normal parliamentary operation"

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Turns out a lot of legislatures in the Anglosphere have an average age of "loving hell we need Ash Williams here on the double"

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fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

forkboy84 posted:

I mean sure, but developers really should have a legal responsibility to upgrade infrastructure when building a sizeable number of new houses. Subsidise bus services for X years, fund improvements to sewers and power infrastructure, bare minimum stuff, and then ideally over a certain size there should be a pharmacy, shop, a GP surgery, at some point a primary school. Not to mention a much higher proportion of actually affordable property.

I agree to a point, but those developers will simply lump any extra costs onto the homebuyer, so it'll just be another tax and cost lumped onto what is already an unaffordable purchase for many. I don't know whether the blame for the already saturated infrastructure should lie solely with new people wanting to also have a home, or for the currently saturated services to be used as an excuse to deny people a home.

Housing should be top priority in any society.

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