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Johnny Truant posted:lol, dope! Rented cards are transferred to your account. You technically have ownership of them while you're using them and do your leagues and stuff. Drafting you won't rent a deck because you're drafting :p
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Playing an artifact as an attempt to stop what your opponent is doing is not a very good strategy right now. Boseiju + leyline binding is in the maindeck for more than half of modern decks. Pick your poison is coming out of board to argument on top of all the other options. Your answers need to be spells or offer some kind of extra value for being blown up.
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ilmucche posted:Rented cards are transferred to your account. You technically have ownership of them while you're using them and do your leagues and stuff. oh yeah duh, not drafts lol. but I can rent a deck and just jump into a league and still win tickets and packs and stuff?
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Mar 20, 2024 18:29
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Johnny Truant posted:oh yeah duh, not drafts lol. but I can rent a deck and just jump into a league and still win tickets and packs and stuff? Yeah. You have to pay for your league as usual. I'd recommend reading up on how the renting works, like trading with the bot and stuff. Make sure you know what you're doing with it.
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Sickening posted:Playing an artifact as an attempt to stop what your opponent is doing is not a very good strategy right now. Boseiju + leyline binding is in the maindeck for more than half of modern decks. Pick your poison is coming out of board to argument on top of all the other options. It's not good, but it's there. Once again it circles back to needing stifle/counters to protect it but it's another layer for an opponent to get through.
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ilmucche posted:Yeah. You have to pay for your league as usual. I'd recommend reading up on how the renting works, like trading with the bot and stuff. Make sure you know what you're doing with it. doooooope! yeah I'm def gonna watch the video again cause I was only half paying attention Time got me into primetime in Timeless on arena, so now I wanna look at Amulet Titan 
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Johnny Truant posted:doooooope! yeah I'm def gonna watch the video again cause I was only half paying attention I used it for penny dreadful back in the day, basically you do all the stuff on their site and their bot proposes a trade with you. The cards go to your account and you play, then you trade back later. It's super simple, go have fun! Johnny Truant posted:Time got me into primetime in Timeless on arena, so now I wanna look at Amulet Titan Wait no don't
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ilmucche posted:Wait no don't  would it make you feel better if I'm also interested in trying out our boy Yawg?
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Johnny Truant posted:
Amulet is a cool deck, weirdly I had fun playing hate pieces tokens v amulet years ago. Gave up in modern since tokens fell off of even tier 3
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Make sure you practice a bit before you play your first leagues. MTGO is a fickle beast when you're first learning it, and it's pretty easy to completely throw a game because you misunderstood what the interface actually wanted you to do In cube I remember candelabra always being a pita in that regard
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fadam posted:Ignoring gameplay implications, would the anything involving the engine break if they changed it so a permanent's ETB was countered if the permanent was no longer on the battlefield at time of resolution? I think that might break kroxa and uro?
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imweasel09 posted:I think that might break kroxa and uro?
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Wouldn't it get back to the days of x/1 being useless again because of Plague engineer? Or make x/2 or lower useless in any format with Aether Flash in it?
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Cleretic posted:According to the MtG fandom wiki she's off studying in Ravnica during Thunder Junction, but they don't actually cite that, and I have no idea how much stock people generally put in the MtG wiki being right in that situation. *that one Nathan Fielder tweet about his friends having fun just out of frame except it's Kellan* Weird Pumpkin posted:Make sure you practice a bit before you play your first leagues. MTGO is a fickle beast when you're first learning it, and it's pretty easy to completely throw a game because you misunderstood what the interface actually wanted you to do LOOK AT THE CARDS.
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Ooooh yeah mtgo can be finnicky as heck.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Wouldn't it get back to the days of x/1 being useless again because of Plague engineer? They have already decided x/1s are unplayable and are going to print more x/2s anyways
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I actually kinda like the idea of CIP triggers requiring the permanent to be in play at the time of resolution
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How do you feel about like half of all creatures getting hexproof as the design team tries to solve the "dies to doomblade" problem without ETB triggers.
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As a general rule, definitely agree it would cause more problems than it solves. Something like a 4 mana black spell, in scaling with The End, with "Destroy target creature. When you do, counter all abilities that creature was the source of." is something there's probably space in the game for. Call it "Rewrite history" and give it flavor text like "Hm, no, I don't think that's how it should've happened."
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Red should get burn spells that counter creature or planeswalker's abilities similar to how it gets exile instead of graveyard tacked on.
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Cancelling ETB triggers if the creature dies would also create a weird and confusing rules inconsistency because cancelling all ablitites if their source dies would break way too much so you have to say "ETB triggers (or some other subset) are special"
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To be clear, I didn't mean retroactively. Just carving out a new design space
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Would this just be for etb? What about dies?
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I think there’s probably space for red to have counterspells that give opponents treasure = cmc of spell countered or op exiles cards from the top of the library to cast until end next turn = cmc of spell.
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https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid...game%3Apaper%29 It's been done a few times over the years, a quick search finds four. Three of them are wall of text modern wordings of janky old reanimation spells and one of them fights on ETB. Never as a power level knob as far as I can find. Qwertycoatl fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Mar 21, 2024 |
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And it's only on the yeti because that's before Fight became a keyword. Fight explicitly requires both to still be on the battlefield.
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uggy posted:I think there’s probably space for red to have counterspells that give opponents treasure = cmc of spell countered or op exiles cards from the top of the library to cast until end next turn = cmc of spell. That second one is just Tibalt's Trickery. Objectively the funniest counterspell, because it's entirely possible that it just causes that player to cast an even stronger spell instead.
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Cradle to Grave is kind of a black counterspell, although it doesn't stop ETBs
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Black already has the perfect (preemptive) counterspell... Every spell gets Mana Leak'd! Shame about the art and availability, though 
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Toph Bei Fong posted:Black already has the perfect (preemptive) counterspell... Every spell gets Mana Leak'd! Damnit Harold
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uggy posted:I think there’s probably space for red to have counterspells that give opponents treasure = cmc of spell countered or op exiles cards from the top of the library to cast until end next turn = cmc of spell. Someone suggested earlier the ability to use some kind of burn spell directly on a spell on the stack and it fizzles if you deal CMC damage or more. I like that thematically for red.
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Khanstant posted:Someone suggested earlier the ability to use some kind of burn spell directly on a spell on the stack and it fizzles if you deal CMC damage or more. I like that thematically for red. Letting Lightning Bolt counter any spell cmc 3 or less, while also being able to kill creatures and players would put it in the power nine and be banned in every format.
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I mean obviously the counter variants wouldn't be able to target permanents or players and would cost more than your usual R for 2. I just wanted to say bolt the stack.
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What's the internal game logic behind why Fight doesn't use Last Known Information (so fizzles if one of the targets gets removed), but stuff like FTK does? Not in terms of balance or anything, but like...based on the underlying rules engine why don't they work the same way? It's an interaction we've all had to deal with a billion times, but I just realized I can't come up with a good explanation for why other than "it just does."
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fadam posted:What's the internal game logic behind why Fight doesn't use Last Known Information (so fizzles if one of the targets gets removed), but stuff like FTK does? Not in terms of balance or anything, but like...based on the underlying rules engine why doesn't Fight use LKI? It's not a fight if the other party is dead, please stop beating up corpses. The real answer is to prevent players from trying to trigger abilities from "dealing damage" when the recipient of that damage no longer exists.
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fadam posted:What's the internal game logic behind why Fight doesn't use Last Known Information (so fizzles if one of the targets gets removed), but stuff like FTK does? Not in terms of balance or anything, but like...based on the underlying rules engine why don't they work the same way? It's an interaction we've all had to deal with a billion times, but I just realized I can't come up with a good explanation for why other than "it just does." It's just thematic. How can something dead get into a fight? *: Undead and animated corpses and necromancers gently caress off
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Aphrodite posted:I mean obviously the counter variants wouldn't be able to target permanents or players and would cost more than your usual R for 2. I just wanted to say bolt the stack. I do like how 'bolt the stack' feels on the brain off the top- Mountain Surge 2R (maybe 1RR) Instant Counter target noncreature spell that was cast for 2 mana value or less Eight-Six fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Mar 21, 2024 |
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On second thought that's just a typical blue counterspell in red. It needs to be duct taped into the existing rules to sell that you're burning the mana being woven together out of existence before it can coalesce. Tilting at Windfalls I don't know, RRR? Enchantment If a red instant you control would deal damage to an opponent, you may prevent that damage. If damage was prevented this way, counter target non-creature spell with mana value X or less where X is the amount of damage prevented.
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I could see red getting burn spells that can thematically target creatures on the stack. 1R Deal two damage to any target Or Counter target creature spell with toughness two or less.
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fadam posted:What's the internal game logic behind why Fight doesn't use Last Known Information (so fizzles if one of the targets gets removed), but stuff like FTK does? Not in terms of balance or anything, but like...based on the underlying rules engine why don't they work the same way? It's an interaction we've all had to deal with a billion times, but I just realized I can't come up with a good explanation for why other than "it just does." if fight works on a dead creature it essentially becomes bite, not fight since "the creature on the battlefield gets damaged" is the key downside it makes sense you have to have that creature alive so that the downside is still a downside
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