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Bicyclops: Aug 27, 2004

American McGay posted:

His lifelong dream was to write for the SA front page and he wrote like 2 articles (on of which was the FURRIES WE WERE WRONG article).

I don't think he was the furry apology guy, he was the Mario interviews Solid Snake guy. Maybe they're the same, though, lol.

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Marcade: Jun 11, 2006; Who are you to glizzy gobble El Vago's marshmussy?

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

jeffrey has hired AI to write his tweets

We're not supposed to talk about Jeffrey hiring his girlfriend.

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Dongicus: Jun 12, 2015

NoiseAnnoys posted:

ah yes the "make you whole" discussion.

dead webspace (2008)

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NoiseAnnoys: May 17, 2010

American McGay posted:

His lifelong dream was to write for the SA front page and he wrote like 2 articles (on of which was the FURRIES WE WERE WRONG article).

wait it was phiz, lol? i remembered it being some other dipshit.

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Mordiceius: Nov 10, 2007; If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

jeffrey has hired AI to write his tweets

mad?

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Red Metal: Oct 23, 2012; Let me tell you about Homestuck; Fun Shoe

Fajita Queen posted:

This post looks like it's supposed to have a follow-up but there's nothing there and it's kind of a lovely post on its own. Whatcha doin Jeff lol

It's referencing this New York Times article

quote:

Light on rules and overseen by an army of volunteer moderators, Reddit � which once hosted popular communities devoted to nonconsensual pornography, overt racism and violent misogyny, among other topics � was often spoken of in the same breath as online cesspools like 4chan and SomethingAwful.

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pentyne: Nov 7, 2012

Frontpage was a mix of people with realistic understandings of what the gig was and some people who thought they were turning it into a thriving social media career

The movie review crew in particular really thought they were taking over the internet with their terrible reviews.

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16-bit Butt-Head: Dec 25, 2014

the female planes do not make sense

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Paladinus: Jan 11, 2014; heyHEYYYY!!!

Fajita Queen posted:

This post looks like it's supposed to have a follow-up but there's nothing there and it's kind of a lovely post on its own. Whatcha doin Jeff lol

It's one of those joke post formats that usually end with 'in this four-hour-long video essay, I'.

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Meowywitch: Jan 14, 2010; Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

Bicyclops posted:

Remembering that goon who was like "I was promised the front page and I turned down other work!" and loling a little

wtf, you cant break a promise like this

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16-bit Butt-Head: Dec 25, 2014

say what you will about the front page but the people that care about it really care about it to frankly very insane levels

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The Wicked ZOGA: Jan 27, 2022; Can't post for 4 days!

Paladinus posted:

The fact that there is only one Hitler thread is a real testament to how unpopular he is here.

Hitler, has only got one thread 🎵

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American McGay: Feb 28, 2010; by sebmojo

genuine racism thread

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ilmucche: Mar 16, 2016; What did you say the strategy was?

The sarcastic holomodor thread op being the poster who bought themselves transphobic avatars is a weird set of circumstances that goes through my head now and then

At least my brain remembers it like that, maybe I'm wrong. Whose head goes all the way around

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16-bit Butt-Head: Dec 25, 2014

ilmucche posted:

The sarcastic holomodor thread op being the poster who bought themselves transphobic avatars is a weird set of circumstances that goes through my head now and then

At least my brain remembers it like that, maybe I'm wrong. Whose head goes all the way around

the funny part is she didnt need to do that because the people that hate her really hated her so she was just wasting her money lol plague rats i hope you're doing better now god bless

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NoiseAnnoys: May 17, 2010

ilmucche posted:

poster who bought themselves transphobic avatars

self-purchasing transphobic avatar poster (disambiguation)

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Babe Magnet: Jun 2, 2008

dragons dogma 2 in 6 hours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2x1nxL8xlg

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Stux: Nov 17, 2006

Famethrowa posted:

persona 3 remake on the steam deck loving rips

steam pushed out a p3r specific update to make it run better on deck directly after i had beaten it lol it was fine before but it runs so nice now

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Leal: Oct 2, 2009

Unicorn Overlord, Stardew 1.6, Dragon's Dogma 2...

Too many good games!

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Stux: Nov 17, 2006

Leal posted:

balatro, Stardew 1.6, Dragon's Dogma 2...

Too many good games!

agreed

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Hot Diggity!: Apr 3, 2010; SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

Gamers keep winning

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Nuns with Guns: Jul 23, 2010; It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

Red Metal posted:

It's referencing this New York Times article

Remembering when SA used its cesspool powers to get r/jailbait closed

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Babe Magnet: Jun 2, 2008

3D Baby Wieners

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pentyne: Nov 7, 2012

Nuns with Guns posted:

Remembering when SA used its cesspool powers to get r/jailbait closed

yeah it was the pride and joy of the same goon who proudly wrote several chapters of A Game of Bones, the SA goon project to write porn versions of the book series.

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Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

pentyne posted:

yeah it was the pride and joy of the same goon who proudly wrote several chapters of A Game of Bones, the SA goon project to write porn versions of the book series.

lol

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Famethrowa: Oct 5, 2012

Nuns with Guns posted:

Remembering when SA used its cesspool powers to get r/jailbait closed

to this day you'll encounter redditors screaming at each other accusations of being "poo poo reddit says" or "srs" the subreddit blamed for closing jailbait 10 years ago.

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Ibram Gaunt: Jul 22, 2009

Gon is going to avenge Kite.

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Nuns with Guns: Jul 23, 2010; It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

pentyne posted:

yeah it was the pride and joy of the same goon who proudly wrote several chapters of A Game of Bones, the SA goon project to write porn versions of the book series.

It's beautiful how Something Awful is a land of contrasts, isn't it?

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Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Bicyclops posted:

Remembering that goon who was like "I was promised the front page and I turned down other work!" and loling a little

the person who got all indignant in qcs because jeffrey wouldn't pay him for front page articles after claiming he'd been promised only to be shown the discord chat logs showing the opposite and being fine with it then being like "oh yeah i remember now" was fun

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I got the tude now: Jul 22, 2007

Babe Magnet posted:

dragons dogma 2 in 6 hours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2x1nxL8xlg

lmfao

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pentyne: Nov 7, 2012

Jose posted:

the person who got all indignant in qcs because jeffrey wouldn't pay him for front page articles after claiming he'd been promised only to be shown the discord chat logs showing the opposite and being fine with it then being like "oh yeah i remember now" was fun

Not only did Jeffrey offer to make him whole, he had no obligation to since he did not purchase Lowtax's debts and made the offer only because he felt bad for the people Lowtax ripped off.

That, over the course of only a few months, turned into someone writing long screeds about how rude and unprofessional Jeff was because "hmm I didn't remember it like that, but did you make the offer to anyone else?" and literally zero reflection from the OP.

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Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

pentyne posted:

Not only did Jeffrey offer to make him whole, he had no obligation to since he did not purchase Lowtax's debts and made the offer only because he felt bad for the people Lowtax ripped off.

That, over the course of only a few months, turned into someone writing long screeds about how rude and unprofessional Jeff was because "hmm I didn't remember it like that, but did you make the offer to anyone else?" and literally zero reflection from the OP.

Post the link. I know you've got it and we need it for this version of the thread.

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Plebian Parasite: Oct 12, 2012

American McGay posted:

His lifelong dream was to write for the SA front page and he wrote like 2 articles (on of which was the FURRIES WE WERE WRONG article).

Wishing to write for the SA front page on a monkeys paw and watching in horror as your article about loving furries and wanting to kiss them on the lips stays at the top of the page for half a decade

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Martman: Nov 20, 2006

pentyne posted:

Not only did Jeffrey offer to make him whole, he had no obligation to since he did not purchase Lowtax's debts and made the offer only because he felt bad for the people Lowtax ripped off.

That, over the course of only a few months, turned into someone writing long screeds about how rude and unprofessional Jeff was because "hmm I didn't remember it like that, but did you make the offer to anyone else?" and literally zero reflection from the OP.

wasn't part of the issue that they didn't know what "to make [someone] whole" meant and thought it was some kind of threat or something? lol

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welcome: Jun 28, 2002; rail slut

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Post the link. I know you've got it and we need it for this version of the thread.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3948931&pagenumber=5&perpage=40#post512822922

Starts here.

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pentyne: Nov 7, 2012

the front page writer who did not get made whole

everythingWasBees posted:

did like the writers ever get paid
when Jeffrey bought the company did he also inherit those debts

you can tell this was an aspiring front page article writer because they use 10k words to explain "no I didn't get paid, sucks I wanted to work and stay"

BoldFrankensteinMir posted:

He did not! We all got stuck for thousands of dollars of unpaid fees and the only message Jeffrey has answered since was to tell me "I don't have your money, get it out of Richard" in a very curt turn. He doesn't have to pay us so he didn't, and that was it. I don't feel bad disclosing this because it was not a business-like conversation at all. It really disappointed me, because he had seemed like an okay guy to work with before that, but after the sale he wouldn't even acknowledge any of us anymore. The way he handled it was thuggish, and unprofessional, and rude.

But you want to know what's really messed up? Many of us were willing to come back anyway! I know, it's incredibly stupid, but that's the power of low standards in employment for you. If the conditions had been even just a little bit better (keeping up on the fees, actually having a real store to sell prints of article art in, no gross toilet-humor in phone meetings with the editor-in-chief as he drives around in the leased sports-car he embezzled from your opaque budget; little things!) a bunch of writers and artists would have forfeited their back-pay and stayed. Some of them are still hanging on in the Slack channel last I checked, and I don't blame them. An audience is a rare and precious resource, especially when it's people in your own community that you care about. I admit, when Jeffrey told me I was poo poo out of luck on collecting back-pay, I offered to forget it too. I said I'd come back and write Comedy Goldmine or Photoshop Phridays or even both again, if he just actually paid me a fair wage for it, and I'd write off Richard's theft as a loss, and not hold it against the new management. I never heard back, which I took as a no. Like I said, not a business discussion. Just a man telling me "I ain't got yer money" and walking away.

Keep in mind, we were promised forty bucks an article which we had to split with the illustrator. We're not talking about a lot of money here, considering the amount of work we did. A lot of those articles had days of work by multiple people poured into them. Even Phridays and Goldmines took half a day at least to assemble with our horrible CMS, with an assistant helping me I couldn't always keep up on the weekly schedule it was so much work. But even our very cheap fees were never paid, we all got robbed of years of back-wages that had been justified with lies about the business's profitability, and nobody cared. It was a really sad way for the thing to end.

I think everybody has sort of given up on the Front Page already, which sucks, but I can't bring myself to get in the way of it anymore. I love it to pieces but if I can't even give the work away that's just too pathetic even for a freelance writer to take. And we take a lot of pathetic jobs, let me tell you. If we had real contracts with real payment schedules on them for the Front Page, you know, basic competence? It would be a totally different idea. But everybody's way more interested in under-the-hood things here in the forums, which is cool, though I notice they seem to have no real deadlines associated with them, at least not ones that are transparent. That's how I know "the Front Page might be considered after all of these vague goals" is not a real timetable, it's a nod to the yet-to-be-executed prisoner still in the room. Between that and how little he valued our work or even being professional with us, I think it's pretty clear Jeffrey's just waiting for a quiet moment to kill the Front Page for good. I just wish he'd get it over with because I really loved that publication and the people involved and it's excruciating for all of us to watch something we loved standing in the gallows while a crowd throws fruit.

It is still absolutely amazing to me just how hard the FP crew worked last spring to try and turn it into the real public-facing hub we all know it ought to be, but there was just never any support, ever. A dozen people busting their asses to promote and preserve this community's creative output, because you all know Imgur is gonna die and take our entire legacy with it, right? That Phridays and Goldmines are our only backup of many of those images, and there are currently no serious suggestions for alternatives? The Front Page team were amazing workhorses with sincere reverence for their community, and I will be proud for the rest of my life to have worked with such amazing people. But at the same time I will always be astonished to have seen so many devoted people working so hard just to be treated so badly, by their bosses, by their audience, by their own drat community they were trying to help. It really was heart-breaking when we all found out Lowtax had never intended to pay any of us and nobody cared. Writers and artists with kids, people working real hard for table-scraps that they really needed, and yet ultimately all they got was "there's a front page!?" and a kick in the butt for all their efforts. It was a nightmare even without considering the other, more atrocious abuses going on even further behind the scenes.

So yeah, sure, it could work if we did it right this time, but it always would have worked if we'd done it right. Lowtax was the textbook parasite-publisher for at least the decade I worked for him. There was no point in the Front Page's recent history where it wasn't dancing the best it could despite a 260-pound parasitic twin growing out of its rear end and gobbling up all the nutrients as expensive cookies. At any stage a very reasonable injection of resources or just some basic support from the readers would have done wonders. We were never unprofitable, that was a gigantic lie we all swallowed for years. Hell, we weren't even allowed to set up a pledge drive for ourselves during the 20th anniversary, turns out because Lowtax was afraid it would take money away from his patreons which turned out to be slush-funds, the fink. The only thing that ever stopped us from having an incredibly cool and valuable Front Page is criminal mismanagement, and we were even able to limp along somewhat respectfully despite that hobbling disability. It's profoundly sad to think of all the opportunities to promote and grow these forums through the Front Page we had, that got stifled again and again by embezzlement and then were thrown away without ever getting a single fair shot. All things considered, it was amazing we ever had a Front Page at all.

Thanks for reading, friend! Some of my favorite graphic design work ever. If there was any chance in Hell of a fair deal for it I bet I could get Worm to come back and write another installment (I still have the templates). It worked for the 2017 revival (which he donated btw) and we kept in touch, I actually have contacts for a number of the old FP writers and I know if things were better they'd consider returning. But as it stands, no, I could not in good faith ask anybody to come back here and get poo poo on again, it's not fair to them.

TL;DR If you're gonna kill the Front Page just kill it already, Jeff, God drat.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Dude I get you are upset but let's make things clear.
1. Lowtax owes you money, not me. He hired you and didn't pay you and that blows. I didn't purchase his debts, that would be really fuckin' dumb, and in your situation I would have considered retaining or getting a consult with an attorney. Probably no remedy there.
2. Back in August, months before I took over the site, I offered to make you whole anyway. You said you didn't want that. I didn't and do not owe you anything but, in the interest of what's right I offered to pay you anyway because I wanted to see you paid. I meant that. Why are you coming here saying otherwise? Editing out your real name sorry for the shoddy mspaint. Screenshot comes from the former frontpage slack channel.

I am sorry that I have not had the time or energy to work on the front page on top of the regular site. It is sad that it has been neglected, but it's never been a priority for me. I'm sorry this means your work was interrupted. There will eventually be something more than nothing there.

BoldFrankensteinMir posted:

I guess I remembered that exchange very differently, I apologize. But it was still really annoying how you never followed up on it, or on any other attempts to contact you over the following months. I'm still not trying to recoup anything from you, I stand by that, but did you make this offer to anybody else? There were a lot of people who got screwed out of smaller amounts and it's just hideous how protracted the whole situation has become.

Again, sorry I forgot your offer, at the time I was still trying to actively get Lowtax to pay up so I wouldn't have tried to double dip on the amount anyway. But there's a lot more to this than just me. Everybody on that team deserves to at least have it offered, and if that's already happened then I retract my objection completely.

I never wanted cross words with you Jeffrey, you seemed like a decent guy, but you really did just kinda disappear on me in the middle of stuff. Thanks for the prompt response.

loving lol

the whole issue over "make you whole" was an unrelated goon who seemed to think it was sexual in nature

starbarry clock posted:

why did you say "make you whole" to the front page writer is that a technical legal term for compensating somebody or the weirdest thing ive ever read

since he said he forgot i cant say he didnt understand but i certainly dont understand how making somebody whole is paying them back

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