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There's an article in Al Jaz about the Russia / China veto: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/22/un-security-council-does-not-pass-us-resolution-calling-for-gaza-ceasefire Haven't read it in full yet but not sure it was a genuine call for a ceasefire. But neither Russia nor China are to be entirely trusted either! 88 pretty sure I don't have to explain what 88 stands for to regular posters / lurkers ITT! But 88 also = 23 x 11
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Mar 22, 2024 16:05
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Ragnar Gunvald posted:Am I in the wrong for not understanding why it's ok for the current situation to happen? Both Gaza and Ukraine shouldn't be happening. Am I missing something? It's not ok for the current situation to happen and both wars are/have degenerated into unjustified bullshit, but the current situation will continue to happen because one or the other of the major powers has an incentive to keep it happening because it serves their interest and/or annoys the other guys.
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Mar 22, 2024 16:07
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Ragnar Gunvald posted:Maybe I've just been really ignorant in the past too and it's always been this bad. I'm convinced though that trad media is only going so hard on changing the narrative re: Palestine because they still think that's a thing they can do. I don't think media strategies have fundamentally adapted at all to things like social media, liveleak, whatsapp groups and such. I think it'll be even longer before they start to catch up with stuff like deepfakes and the latest development in the future is terrifying and it is happening now news.
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Mar 22, 2024 16:19
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I think it'll be even longer before they start to catch up with stuff like deepfakes and the latest development in the future is terrifying and it is happening now news. I'm sure they have enough audio of Kate to make a facsimile of her with a real doll and a Boston Dynamics robot now.
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Mar 22, 2024 16:22
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I feel that. I think it's more a combination of us being in a thread centred around discussions of this kind of thing, combined with easier access to unfiltered information from outside the liberal consensus. I think most people's parents probably tried to shield them from the worst as kids as well which is why it always seem like things are worse now. I have really mixed feelings about that link, on one hand it's so Interesting and exciting when used right but on the other hand holy poo poo is that terrifying. That's the first instance of that I've seen and that's really eye opening... But also, yes, I entirely agree with you about traditional media not being able to keep up and is having far more access to information these days that simply wasn't possible in the past. Some of the things I saw on telegram RE the Ukrainian war was so bad that I had to delete the app and I couldn't bring myself to trying to get that same kind of information again on the Gaza conflict. I'm sure similar things happened during both Iraq wars and also Afghanistan and maybe it's personal perception and me having blinkers on, but it just feels so much worse now and like a much bigger deal now. A shorter fuse on a bigger powderkeg if you like.
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Mar 22, 2024 16:33
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Even absenting the horrors of drone warfare, the coalition forces on the ground in Iraq got up to some spectacularly horrific things, multiple instances of them just gunning down civilians in the street. It's not the sort of thing generally reported on because much like the horseshit over the UK murdering people in NI, the press just doesn't really take the line that Are Brave Boys could possibly do wrong. That's just war, some people wage war with the explicit intent of wiping out entire populations of people, other people just view that as an acceptable side effect and call it things like "strategic bombing" but nobody wages war without killing a lot more people who didn't volunteer to risk their lives than the press would have you believe.
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Mar 22, 2024 16:52
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Eight billion people around, and hundreds of nations, make a lot of chances to grow some weighty evil. I will not suggest that as the cause of any evil, or say that nothing should be done. I am saying this: Even if there wasn't much chance of evil in any given case, the number of cases will likely keep pace with the chances. The end result is that the media will always have frightening or sickening or angering things to point a camera at, and they will have every reason to show that picture off alongside their own words. That's just in a hypothetical world where there aren't forces or incentives to goad evil. This world, on the other hand: holy poo poo. We all know why things which shouldn't happen often happen anyway: the discussions of fabulists, philosophers or even ordinary people do not conjure their ideas in the material world. The closest thing to this kind of magic is not on a large scale, but to take what little control of ourselves we can and manifest that instead. No control is given to me over questions like 'should NATO intervene?' Every control is given to me over questions like 'should I be reading this?' To that last question, the answer is not what it might look like I've implied. I'm curious about the world and it's rewarding to share my concerns with like minded people. To that end why not learn about what I cannot control. With that said, sometimes I have other things to do, like write a post about how I supposedly have better things to do.
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Mar 22, 2024 16:53
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I feel that. I think it's more a combination of us being in a thread centred around discussions of this kind of thing, combined with easier access to unfiltered information from outside the liberal consensus. I think most people's parents probably tried to shield them from the worst as kids as well which is why it always seem like things are worse now. Channel 4 news ran a fairly long segment on deepfake porn yesterday https://www.channel4.com/news/exclusive-hundreds-of-british-celebrities-victims-of-deepfake-porn But I agree with your point on trad media. Take that Sky News link Sky News posted:There are solid arguments behind the Russia/China/Algeria veto. This is buried in the middle of a sidebar comment piece with no explanation that their arguments are for a stronger ceasefire, and is the only recognition anywhere in the piece. And of course the final sentence, long after most people will have stopped reading, grudgingly admits that the US has repeatedly vetoed ceasefire resolutions. No mention that the UK has also vetoed ceasefire resolutions. Pretty much every time I see a news story of interest my first instinct (like it seems others have) is to go to Al Jazeera and see if they have a relatively objective report.
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Mar 22, 2024 17:00
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Not even read the US ceasefire proposal but just going to assume it's worded along the lines of "Israel will immediately stop all military action (as soon as the last Palestinian is dead)"
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Mar 22, 2024 18:17
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Well, that's not the responce I was hoping for
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Mar 22, 2024 18:24
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mrpwase posted:James Blunt did a pretty good job stopping WW3 during the Balkan Wars. Maybe we should send him in again? He was serving under Michael Jackson then, we can't have the dream team back I'm afraid.
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Mar 22, 2024 18:46
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keep punching joe posted:Not even read the US ceasefire proposal but just going to assume it's worded along the lines of "Israel will immediately stop all military action (as soon as the last Palestinian is dead)" AJ article above posted:The proposal backs the “imperative” for “an immediate and sustained ceasefire to protect civilians on all sides”, differing from previous draft resolutions vetoed by Washington, which demanded an unconditional ceasefire.
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Mar 22, 2024 18:49
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Kate is having chemotherapy. Sky news.
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Mar 22, 2024 19:01
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Man, my hunch was right.
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Mar 22, 2024 19:04
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Residency Evil posted:Man, my hunch was right. Assuming cancer in the abdomen, are we assuming ovarian, stomach, or pancreatic cancer?
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Mar 22, 2024 19:05
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Pappyland posted:Assuming cancer in the abdomen, are we assuming ovarian, stomach, or pancreatic cancer? Based on...a strong hunch, I'm guessing ovarian.
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Mar 22, 2024 19:06
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Wills got his hands on the CIA's Gun That Gives You Cancer and Chuck got caught in the crossfire.
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Mar 22, 2024 19:06
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she looks too small for that bench...
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Mar 22, 2024 19:07
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With the understanding of everything. For your (Grand)Father and then your Wife/Mother to have cancer in short succession can not be anything other than horrific.
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Mar 22, 2024 19:12
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Poor William’s gonna have to wait forever to officially move on to his mistress now
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Mar 22, 2024 19:12
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Or it's gonna speed things up
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Mar 22, 2024 19:17
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Answers Me posted:Poor William’s gonna have to wait forever to officially move on to his mistress now That depends on the cancer at the end of the day. ----------------- gently caress cancer.
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Mar 22, 2024 19:17
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OTOH, would be funny if Liz gets succeeded by a series of the shortest reigning monarchs in British history
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Mar 22, 2024 19:19
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This is the least humorous outcome
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Mar 22, 2024 19:20
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oh i thought they were putting kate's innards into charlie not the other way round
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Mar 22, 2024 19:23
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Nuclear Spoon posted:oh i thought they were putting kate's innards into charlie not the other way round Well Charlie can't have two innards in him, can he? His offal has to go somewhere.
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Mar 22, 2024 19:24
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suck my woke dick posted:OTOH, would be funny if Liz gets succeeded by a series of the shortest reigning monarchs in British history How many have to go before Princess Anne becomes Queen Anne II?
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Mar 22, 2024 19:26
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Mar 22, 2024 19:27
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suck my woke dick posted:OTOH, would be funny if Liz gets succeeded by a series of the shortest reigning monarchs in British history Good luck beating Jane Grey's 9 days, or Swein Forkbeard's 40 days.
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Mar 22, 2024 19:28
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Residency Evil posted:Based on...a strong hunch, I'm guessing ovarian. NGL being rushed off in the middle of the night for emergency abdominal surgery for cancer and taking 3 months to recover sounds like exceptionally bad news. Even more so when you consider how young she is.
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Mar 22, 2024 19:30
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Answers Me posted:Poor William’s gonna have to wait forever to officially move on to his mistress now
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Mar 22, 2024 19:32
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Pappyland posted:Assuming cancer in the abdomen, are we assuming ovarian, stomach, or pancreatic cancer? probably something more insidious like cervical
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Mar 22, 2024 19:33
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Wills got his hands on the CIA's Gun That Gives You Cancer
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Mar 22, 2024 19:39
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If this is really the extent of the Kate situation, the answer to all the riddles, then frankly their publicists are so offensively incompetent that it defies description.
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Mar 22, 2024 19:40
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Welp bet you're all feeling bad for laughing about ar kate now.
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Mar 22, 2024 19:41
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She has the perfect cover to finally get that BBL now
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Mar 22, 2024 19:42
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PT6A posted:If this is really the extent of the Kate situation, the answer to all the riddles, then frankly their publicists are so offensively incompetent that it defies description. they can’t handle this any worse, it’s astounding
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Mar 22, 2024 19:42
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Answers Me posted:Poor William’s gonna have to wait forever to officially move on to his mistress now Don't look up the stats on how many men leave their wives after the wife gets diagnosed with a serious illness. The number is far higher than you'd hope.
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Mar 22, 2024 19:43
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Z the IVth posted:NGL being rushed off in the middle of the night for emergency abdominal surgery for cancer and taking 3 months to recover sounds like exceptionally bad news. Even more so when you consider how young she is. Yeah. Unless she got rushed in for something else, conspiracy fans, and the cancer showed up on scans. But bowel cancer, for example, could have caused an intestinal blockage, which would need an ambulance and emergency surgery. Yowch. gently caress cancer.
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Mar 22, 2024 19:44
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:Don't look up the stats on how many men leave their wives after the wife gets diagnosed with a serious illness. The number is far higher than you'd hope. Yeah a guy at my work spent all but one month grieving death of his wife before it became clear he was banging a trainee 20 odd years younger than him (he probably didn't wait).
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