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Josef bugman posted:Whatever this was appears gone now. ah it’s a retweet of d’ancona on radio saying that jones’ nickname at the guardian was squealer after the pig in animal farm
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Mar 25, 2024 09:55
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Has Jones quit The Guardian as well?
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Mar 25, 2024 10:01
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Owen Jones walking into the morning meeting today: "close, you capitalist turncoats, but the book didn't have a direct allegory for Beria" *releases the pack of dogs*
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Mar 25, 2024 10:02
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Embedding tweets is a garbage feature, everything worth posting here will get deleted. Screenshots are the way
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Mar 25, 2024 10:03
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I signed up to the we deserve better mailing list and it seems to be where the lefties have gone They are banging on about factionalism so it is damned to obscurity
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Mar 25, 2024 10:03
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notaspy posted:Has Jones quit The Guardian as well? nope
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Mar 25, 2024 10:04
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Embedding tweets is a garbage feature, everything worth posting here will get deleted. Screenshots are the way i’m not going to embed a screenshot of a radio quote but you do you
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Mar 25, 2024 10:05
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Jones used to be on staff, he's been a freelancer for a few years now.
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Mar 25, 2024 10:11
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mediaphage posted:i’m not going to embed a screenshot of a radio quote but you do you weirdly hostile response this
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Mar 25, 2024 10:14
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Honestly I'd embed pics but in the Awful app the Imgur functionality is broken and it requires a 16-tap multi-app faff so until that's fixed I cba
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Mar 25, 2024 10:24
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Failed Imagineer posted:Honestly I'd embed pics but in the Awful app the Imgur functionality is broken and it requires a 16-tap multi-app faff so until that's fixed I cba pretty much sa is already rehosting imgur pics now. they should start some kind of social media screencapper lol
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Mar 25, 2024 10:25
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Residency Evil posted:Or to put it another way, none of it helped Ruth Bader Ginsburg in the end. In all fairness being 87 and having survived 2 rounds of cancer she needs a phylactery not an oncologist if she wants to live forever.
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Mar 25, 2024 10:33
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mediaphage posted:i’m not going to embed a screenshot of a radio quote but you do you
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Mar 25, 2024 10:48
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No post radio
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Mar 25, 2024 10:52
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Guavanaut posted:Post a picture of a radio instead. 
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Mar 25, 2024 10:55
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I regret to inform you all that thread favourite and legend Fuctifino’s posts speculating on the Royal Family were in fact directly funded by Vladimir Putin and Xi Xinping in a sinister attempt to destabilise our glorious Grate British society. 
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Mar 25, 2024 11:03
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Z the IVth posted:In all fairness being 87 and having survived 2 rounds of cancer she needs a phylactery not an oncologist if she wants to live forever. She also needed to not go and officiate two kids wedding in the middle of a global Pandemic when she was an at risk person getting cancer treatment. Of course it's probable that at that stage she knew her days were limited. But , as ghoulish as this is to say, her dying in September 2020 and her dying in January 2021 would have made an actual difference.
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Mar 25, 2024 11:04
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Owen Jones is now a regular contributer to The National, a far more important paper of note than the Guardian.
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Mar 25, 2024 11:05
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MeinPanzer posted:While the NHS is clearly being pushed to its limits, it's the norm in a public health care system to have to advocate a fair bit to get relatively minor but persistent issues addressed. Any functioning public service will need to be selective. But it's a very good thing that almost all people I know with a serious issue who have gotten past their GP praise the quality of the treatment they get and the speed with which they get it. I don't mean to be dismissive, but there's a certain amount of confirmation bias involved with some of these horror stories: for every one about something relatively unusual being missed for years you have dozens or hundreds of people going to the GP with minor aches and pains that ultimately prove to be nothing. If a GP ordered tests for every one of those the system would grind to a halt. A big part of the problem here is that often it doesn't even get to the stage of GPs ordering tests. My wife has worked as a nurse in frontline A&E / walk-in departments for nearly all of her career, and one consistent issue has been people either unable to get GP appointments at all, or having to jump through so many hoops (like several hours sitting on hold in phone queues during working hours) that it's effectively the same. This situation varies heavily by GP practice; the one closest to me is quite well run and so far I've always been able to get appointments relatively quickly. However the previous practice I was registered with has an atrocious reputation for forcing patients to the nearest hospital instead. The end result is the system still grinds to a halt because the emergency departments are the ones needing to triage & test hundreds of people that (mostly) prove to have nothing serious, and waiting times shoot up. I realise of course this is all working as intended.
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Mar 25, 2024 11:07
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fuctifino posted:While laughing at videos of the cenotaph protest, I stumbled across this guy who is apparently a mayoral candidate: Irish and Welsh still exist as languages, there was a school of traditional West African literature in Jamaica within 9 months of the abolition of slavery, Jewish culture still existed in Manchester during the exclusion. You can try to beat the culture out of people for centuries and still fail, so them being worried about the natural cultural evolution of some statues being replaced with other ones (when iconoclasm is itself a British tradition) doesn't say much good about their opinion of the resilience of their own culture.  smellmycheese posted:I regret to inform you all that thread favourite and legend Fuctifino’s posts speculating on the Royal Family were in fact directly funded by Vladimir Putin and Xi Xinping in a sinister attempt to destabilise our glorious Grate British society.
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Mar 25, 2024 11:10
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They’ll be claiming the Chinese planted nanobots in Cheggers arse to give him cancer next
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Mar 25, 2024 11:13
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xtothez posted:A big part of the problem here is that often it doesn't even get to the stage of GPs ordering tests.... The end result is the system still grinds to a halt because the emergency departments are the ones needing to triage & test hundreds of people that (mostly) prove to have nothing serious, and waiting times shoot up. Oh yeah, definitely, and this is certainly a result of the multi-front efforts to destroy the NHS. I'm just talking about the experiences of people who have been to the GP for what would appear to be relatively minor issues. My point is that it's sometimes important to get a bit of perspective about what's just inherent to a public health service (doctors not doing much for people with minor complaints, unless they're really persistent) and what's a result of starving the beast (what you're discussing).
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Mar 25, 2024 11:17
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smellmycheese posted:I regret to inform you all that thread favourite and legend Fuctifino’s posts speculating on the Royal Family were in fact directly funded by Vladimir Putin and Xi Xinping in a sinister attempt to destabilise our glorious Grate British society. I guess the moral of the story is that everyone has their price 
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Mar 25, 2024 11:20
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smellmycheese posted:They’ll be claiming the Chinese planted nanobots in Cheggers arse to give him cancer next That's not how cheggers died and I'm not sure why he would have been a target for the Chinese.
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Mar 25, 2024 11:27
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https://twitter.com/FT/status/1772173758087733599 There's an archive link here that gets through the paywall - https://archive.is/o6gcc The entire article is a good read, but this point jumped out. Second home ownership is definitely a localised issue in certain places, but these stats surprised me: quote:Despite long-running concerns that the UK’s housing shortage is worsened by second-home owners leaving properties empty, Britain also has one of the lowest rates of second-home ownership in Europe and one of the lowest vacancy rates in the OECD, the Resolution Foundation found. As is their conclusion quote:After adjusting for the general level of prices across each economy, people in the UK paid more for housing, relative to other goods and services, than in any other developed country — more even than in New Zealand and Australia, which have their own perennial housing crises.
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Mar 25, 2024 11:29
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So what you're saying is British houses are the most valuable. Another win for us.
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Mar 25, 2024 11:53
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NotJustANumber99 posted:So what you're saying is British houses are the most valuable. Another win for us. Your victory wine, sir
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Mar 25, 2024 11:55
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fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/FT/status/1772173758087733599 I think the restriction 'for their own use' makes that second-home-ownership stat unsurprising (given the price of houses) and not very informative. I mean anyone round here with a second home is going to be renting it out at least some of the year, unless they're completely loaded.
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Mar 25, 2024 12:30
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Oh dear me posted:I think the restriction 'for their own use' makes that second-home-ownership stat unsurprising (given the price of houses) and not very informative. I mean anyone round here with a second home is going to be renting it out at least some of the year, unless they're completely loaded. Regardless it still shows that the amount of under-occupied housing is very low. Clearly the issue is that not enough housing (and not dense enough housing) is being built. Probably because huge sections of influential people, as well as the developers who would have to build the houses, only stand to benefit from it. Plebs who don't own a house, well, who cares. All that said I have very little trust that Labour would do something about it, at this point so much of the voting publics wealth is tied up in housing that any collapse in house prices would be complete electoral poison.
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Mar 25, 2024 13:03
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Private Speech posted:Regardless it still shows that the amount of under occupied housing is very low. Also doesn’t seem to factor in empty homes owned by people outside the uk, which may or may not be a significant number.
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Mar 25, 2024 13:06
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fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/FT/status/1772173758087733599 If you click through to the resolution foundation's own article on their report, it does caveat that thing about second homes really heavily- "Comparable data on these issues [second homes or vacant properties] is even harder to find, but a recent study triangulating sources suggests that 4 per cent of British households own second homes". Clicking through to the report then the source gets you to this https://jamesjgleeson.wordpress.com/2022/10/23/how-do-multiple-home-ownership-rates-in-britain-compare-to-the-rest-of-europe/ I think they've been a bit dishonest with how they use that data. The 4% includes only people who own a second house for their sole use. If you add in buy to let the number goes up to 10% and there's no attempt to properties belonging to owners of multiple buy-to-lets. So if you're a Finn and you own an unheated log cabin next to a pond in a forest that you and your mates just use to get really pissed, that counts. If you're a Brit with four buy-to-lets in Saltcombe, you don't.
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Mar 25, 2024 13:07
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I bet even people ITT would be in a pandemonious uproar if their house dropped 45% and they suddenly couldn't move due to being locked into mortgages etc.
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Mar 25, 2024 13:07
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I feel like the government could say mortgages and rents aren't real, if you are in a house it is now your house.
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Mar 25, 2024 13:11
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At that point we're in fantasy socialism land, mass housebuilding wouldn't be nearly as difficult to do - but it would absolutely gently caress over house prices, since the only thing holding them so high is scarcity. If there were plentiful houses - even worse, plentiful well-built houses - nobody would pay you a cool million for your shoebox semi in London.
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Mar 25, 2024 13:12
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They could build some not-house accommodation and have it run by the local authority and not made out of thermite and paraffin wax.
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Mar 25, 2024 13:13
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If lots of middle class people are incensed about their mortgages than mortgage forgiveness will cease to be socialism and simply become "common sense".
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Mar 25, 2024 13:14
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couch serfers vs. the landboard gentry
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Mar 25, 2024 13:16
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Private Speech posted:I bet even people ITT would be in a pandemonious uproar if their house dropped 45% and they suddenly couldn't move due to being locked into mortgages etc. I mean, nice for those on those mortgages to have homes but I'm not sure how those of us priced out of anything bigger than a shed are meant to be happy about it.
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Mar 25, 2024 13:17
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Private Speech posted:Regardless it still shows that the amount of under-occupied housing is very low. No it doesn't. As well as excluding foreign-owned property, that stat does not include occasionally rented out property, which I'd expect to include a lot of second homes. The stat that should show need for housebuilding is surely houses per capita, where we're mid-range for the OECD. Housebuilding might be nice but it is not going to solve our landlordism problem.
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Mar 25, 2024 13:18
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Guavanaut posted:They could build some not-house accommodation and have it run by the local authority and not made out of thermite and paraffin wax. ah yes, the begich tower arrangement
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