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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3gjl7w847yo I feel like everyone just stopped learning anything about thermodynamics at that university, because their brief was to make airliners still viable when the fossil fuels get too expensive and people notice climate change. The option for people to not fly so much is not suggested. It’s instead for a university to have trucks of cash shipped to it to finally realise that, actually, hydrogen powering your EasyJet to the Costa del Sol is not realistic. Given no one has made an even halfway useful and economical hydrogen fuel cell powered car, and that’s a relative cakewalk to a cryo-hydrogen Airbus, I think this will be quietly shelved despite the local news spending ten minutes on it.
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# ? May 27, 2024 02:22 |
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Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3gjl7w847yo "Blue Hydrogen" has become a very popular greenwashing technique in the UK, though, since it creates a CO2 slight of hand where you can say that all the oil and gas you're consuming isn't emitting carbon anymore. You just say you're sequestering or offsetting the emissions of the gas plant that's making the hydrogen, and suddenly that hydrogen (which only exists because of a massive fossil fuel input) is a zero emission fuel.
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# ? Mar 26, 2024 19:46 |
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people love reading feel good stories about how smart scientists are going to save us all from the collapse that is becoming more and more evident, and journalists get paid proportionally to how many people read their stories. dumb stuff like "nuance" and "factual accuracy" isn't at all important
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Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:
the university as an institution doesn't care, they get their 50% cut of the grant money even if the research topic is silly
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Stereotype posted:people love reading feel good stories about how smart scientists are going to save us all from the collapse that is becoming more and more evident, and journalists get paid proportionally to how many people read their stories. dumb stuff like "nuance" and "factual accuracy" isn't at all important Do people love reading them or is it just a function of our economic propaganda apparatus that they're saturated with them like a carpet bombing campaign to drown out dissent and squash people pointing out that a carbon neutral fracked-gas power plant doesn't exist e: did anyone actually buy that "clean coal" was a thing? because blue hydrogen is just an iteration of the exact same bullshit idea that you can keep burning fossil fuels but a wizard will appear and stop climate change anyway The Oldest Man has issued a correction as of 20:07 on Mar 26, 2024 |
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The Oldest Man posted:Electric cars become a very popular greenwashing technique, though, since it creates a CO2 slight of hand where you can say that all the oil and gas you're consuming isn't emitting carbon anymore. You just say you're sequestering or offsetting the emissions of the gas plant that's making the electricity, and suddenly that electricity (which only exists because of a massive fossil fuel input) is a zero emission fuel.
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# ? Mar 26, 2024 20:06 |
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I mean... yes? E: id say electric cars are slightly less of a fully outright lie because you could theoretically get the electricity from solar or wind or something (nevermind that those sources are not where we're getting most of our electricity, and nevermind the embodied carbon inputs of the car itself). Blue Hydrogen and Clean Coal are directly aimed at justifying the continued burning of fossil fuels by laundering their emissions. Maybe in some world you could have a solar supply chain for solar-powered electric cars. You can't have a Blue Hydrogen or Clean Coal plant that isn't burning fossil fuels; that's literally what the name means. The Oldest Man has issued a correction as of 20:10 on Mar 26, 2024 |
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Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3gjl7w847yo My university opened up a hydrogen fuel cell research center in 2005 and as far as I can tell all that ever came from it was enough interest to get the city to buy some fuel cell buses from an unrelated supplier. They now make up a whole 1/3 of the city bus fleet, the rest of which is "clean-burning" propane and CNG lol
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# ? Mar 26, 2024 20:11 |
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The Oldest Man posted:I mean... yes? wasn't a dig at you, just funny how we aren't even trying but instead renaming things to keep driving cars* everywhere *🌱
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really starting to think cars was a mistake
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all cars must be destroyed
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Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:
because people start doing blow at younger and younger ages each generation before hitting up businesses college, so this is the corporate strategy we inherited from one sober but solipsistic piece of poo poo four generations of business grandpa ago and it’s the strategy we will be stuck with forever after as the newer generations of brainrotted wannabe financial illuminati stay too busy sucking andrew tate’s cum through their phone screens to ever come up with an original idea that can’t be found scribbled on the whiteboard of an econ 101 class. if one wants to frame it as an issue of regulatory pressure instead, this same shitpost applies with very few words changed because who do you think owns the regulatory agencies Not suggesting you don’t think about these things, just avin’ a laff. I think someone would be tempted to refute the above by explaining that fixing problems doesn’t make companies money. Thats paradoxically true in our current paradigm but then again there happens to be a lot of money in not dying. my theory is that their brains atrophied until they stopped caring about money or dying because the ownership class is all experiencing intense shared delusions Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:The option for people to not fly so much is not suggested. It’s instead for a university to have trucks of cash shipped to it to finally realise that, actually, hydrogen powering your EasyJet to the Costa del Sol is not realistic. Degrowth? In my vagina? jk but no really one of my favorite kinds of arguments is when you tell someone a solution to a problem in human society (consume less, brah) and they tell you that the free market will correct for it and fix it. Had a best friend do this to me over this exact issue like my man, if by ‘free market correction’ you mean ‘the physical laws of nature will force us to stop flying’ you are now one hundo percent on board with this idea I have called stop loving flying so much Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:Given no one has made an even halfway useful and economical hydrogen fuel cell powered car, and that’s a relative cakewalk to a cryo-hydrogen Airbus, I think this will be quietly shelved despite the local news spending ten minutes on it. good god the hydrogen poo poo. the aforementioned friend more or less screamed at me for providing even minor pushback in insisting that aviation biofuels and hydrogen fuels are an absolute snake oil of an idea and that he probably shouldn’t invest his money nor feelings of hope into them. this was seen as doomerism, and clearly doomerism is inherently wrong because ick. duder was so cocksure of the fact that my opinion was stupid because he had been an AMT repair man for 6 months and obviously this was his lane now, not mine. I figured out why he was so obscenely angry with this past interaction when several companies later all but came out and said “yeah our investments into alternative fuels were just tax relief scams lol suck it plebs” and pulled out. turned out he had stuck some money into stuff related to biofuels in hopes of it moonshotting so he could escape being a wagecuck like the rest of us
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Ignore_Me posted:because people start doing blow at younger and younger ages each generation before hitting up businesses college, so this is the corporate strategy we inherited from one sober but solipsistic piece of poo poo four generations of business grandpa ago and it’s the strategy we will be stuck with forever after as the newer generations of brainrotted wannabe financial illuminati stay too busy sucking andrew tate’s cum through their phone screens to ever come up with an original idea that can’t be found scribbled on the whiteboard of an econ 101 class. if one wants to frame it as an issue of regulatory pressure instead, this same shitpost applies with very few words changed because who do you think owns the regulatory agencies Humans are funny. I shall watch their future with great interest.
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The Oldest Man posted:"Blue Hydrogen" has become a very popular greenwashing technique in the UK, though, since it creates a CO2 slight of hand where you can say that all the oil and gas you're consuming isn't emitting carbon anymore. You just say you're sequestering or offsetting the emissions of the gas plant that's making the hydrogen, and suddenly that hydrogen (which only exists because of a massive fossil fuel input) is a zero emission fuel. This is one of my favorites as well. After the process (steam methane reforming) even the zero emission version that sequesters some of the waste releases more co2 than h2 produced. Lots of hydrogen in the atmosphere might not be great either https://phys.org/news/2021-09-percent-atmospheric-hydrogen-years.html https://acp.copernicus.org/articles/22/9349/2022/ https://acp.copernicus.org/articles/23/13451/2023/
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*Thinking extra hard* Have we tried flying planes off cow farts?
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https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/ca...1464d8be74.html
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Canada can't murder poor people outta its way to stop this!
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Erghh posted:funny_feeling.mp4 https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/dairy-cattle-texas-kansas-tested-positive-bird-flu-108482834 lol yea right, cows aren't birds, moran
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Whoever posted that Energy Trap article, thanks. I enjoyed reading that. It felt like a deep dive into what was otherwise a flippant comment at the very end of that Stuart mcmillen comic about peak oil, "how will we use the oil that is left?"
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Microplastics posted:Whoever posted that Energy Trap article, thanks. I enjoyed reading that. It felt like a deep dive into what was otherwise a flippant comment at the very end of that Stuart mcmillen comic about peak oil, "how will we use the oil that is left?" Read the rest of Dr. Murphy’s blog. It’s all good.
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:lol yea right, cows aren't birds, moran i know, i know, everything's fine just like there will always be drinking water for panama as we've been assured instead of flushing it all for shipping everything's fine
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Greatquote:More than 4m hours of raw sewage discharges poured into rivers and seas last year, a 129% increase on the previous 12 months, new figures are expected to reveal on Wednesday.
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Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:Canada can't murder enough* poor people outta its way to stop this here you go bubbles I reconfuckulated your post Nix Panicus posted:Getting a week's worth of rain in one hour bursts is probably really great for keeping the sewer systems clean, actually how else you sposed to wash out the mud of the thousand lonely suicides Ignore_Me has issued a correction as of 00:07 on Mar 27, 2024 |
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4d3d3d posted:Great Getting a week's worth of rain in one hour bursts is probably really great for keeping the sewer systems clean, actually
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Ignore_Me posted:here you go bubbles I reconfuckulated your post
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Ignore_Me posted:here you go bubbles I reconfuckulated your post Can you please stop editing your posts to reply to people who posted after you and just post after them like a normal person. Or are you posting so fast it's appearing out of sync in the feed?
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Microplastics posted:Whoever posted that Energy Trap article, thanks. I enjoyed reading that. It felt like a deep dive into what was otherwise a flippant comment at the very end of that Stuart mcmillen comic about peak oil, "how will we use the oil that is left?" Wow seems like we should use the remaining fossil fuels we have carefully and cut down on things that are needlessly wasteful. Alternately we could make simply burning all the fossil fuels in itself profitable, maximizing the wastefulness. While we're doing the second thing we can maybe give out some grants, incentivizing AI of course, to figure out which is better
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Stereotype posted:Wow seems like we should use the remaining fossil fuels we have carefully and cut down on things that are needlessly wasteful. Alternately we could make simply burning all the fossil fuels in itself profitable, maximizing the wastefulness. While we're doing the second thing we can maybe give out some grants, incentivizing AI of course, to figure out which is better
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 02:19 |
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I want to start job hunting again but with the twist of talking about the future like we post in this thread I think it will be a real good time (for me, idk about the interviewers)
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Car Hater posted:I want to start job hunting again but with the twist of talking about the future like we post in this thread Where do you see yourself in five years time?
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starkebn posted:Can you please stop editing your posts to reply to people who posted after you and just post after them like a normal person. can’t recall which but I ’ve either been in other forums where that was discouraged so that you don’t have a disproportionate amount of posts from one talkative user on thread pages, or it was discouraged here a long time ago so that’s why I was doing it. the obvious solution is for me to post less
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Ignore_Me posted:the obvious solution is for me to post less
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Ignore_Me posted:can’t recall which but I ’ve either been in other forums where that was discouraged so that you don’t have a disproportionate amount of posts from one talkative user on thread pages, or it was discouraged here a long time ago so that’s why I was doing it. the obvious solution is for me to post less I believe this is wrong.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 03:12 |
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I believe this is right.
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what do you like to do for fun? I collect graphs, wanna see?
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MightyBigMinus posted:what do you like to do for fun?
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Ignore_Me posted:can’t recall which but I ’ve either been in other forums where that was discouraged so that you don’t have a disproportionate amount of posts from one talkative user on thread pages, or it was discouraged here a long time ago so that’s why I was doing it. the obvious solution is for me to post less
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Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:I believe this is right.
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