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I’ve heard from authoritative sources that I can just foresee me winning each 50/50. I will manifest Archeron and her LC and break my bad luck train. It’s so easy it just has to work.
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Even if you fail, you'll create a parallel universe where you succeeded, so all you have to do is transfer your consciousness over to that.
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If they offered people a deal where you could pull exactly the average number of pulls to get each character, and it would average out to getting the same number of 4 stars and Standard banner characters and everything too, would you take it, or do you like the thrill of the gambling aspect? I've pulled way better than average, but I think I'd take the deal as long as it wasn't retroactive.
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Mar 27, 2024 01:30
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I honestly hate gambling, I never do anything in a gacha game unless I have enough saved resources to guarantee the exact results. I know this sounds strange, but.
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Mar 27, 2024 01:34
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mycot posted:I honestly hate gambling, I never do anything in a gacha game unless I have enough saved resources to guarantee the exact results. I know this sounds strange, but. From an avoiding temptation to buy packs perspective that's probably a safe call. I'm sure they get a ton of purchases from people who miss the 50/50, only had the tickets to get them that far, and feel committed at that point to going the rest of the way.
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Mar 27, 2024 01:44
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Dr Kool-AIDS posted:If they offered people a deal where you could pull exactly the average number of pulls to get each character, and it would average out to getting the same number of 4 stars and Standard banner characters and everything too, would you take it, or do you like the thrill of the gambling aspect? I've pulled way better than average, but I think I'd take the deal as long as it wasn't retroactive. I would take the non-gambling version. I think the current version makes people make bad decisions with their wallets because of sunk-cost fallacy. At least with the other way, you know exactly what getting a character is going to cost you. Although I can see some people making the argument for the current system because they set a hard limit on how many pulls they're willing to use on any particular banner, and they still want the chance to get the character they want within those many pulls.
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Mar 27, 2024 01:45
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Dr Kool-AIDS posted:From an avoiding temptation to buy packs perspective that's probably a safe call. I'm sure they get a ton of purchases from people who miss the 50/50, only had the tickets to get them that far, and feel committed at that point to going the rest of the way. The entire system is designed to put things just out of reach so you are tempted to spend, interact with it on your own terms.
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Mar 27, 2024 01:48
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I mean, I already interact with the system as if it were just guarantees with a chance of getting lucky, so making it the average of that would simply reduce the space between guarantees (with no chance of getting lucky). Which is strictly better for planning.
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Mar 27, 2024 01:50
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These games very much rely on the impulse people have to throw down money when losing the swing. Don’t fall for it if you don’t wait for an absolute guarantee.
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Mar 27, 2024 01:50
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mycot posted:I honestly hate gambling, I never do anything in a gacha game unless I have enough saved resources to guarantee the exact results. I know this sounds strange, but. I don't mind gambling in general but I take this exact mentality when it comes to gacha games because otherwise, yeah, it's too easy to convince oneself to spend to make up for bad luck.
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Mar 27, 2024 02:02
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Dr Kool-AIDS posted:From an avoiding temptation to buy packs perspective that's probably a safe call. I'm sure they get a ton of purchases from people who miss the 50/50, only had the tickets to get them that far, and feel committed at that point to going the rest of the way. I feel personally attacked
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Mar 27, 2024 02:06
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I don't feel much sunk cost in this game because everything carries over to the next banner. There's nothing wrong with saving up a guarantee. I've had a guaranteed banner LC saved up since Kafka.
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The hard pity system actually encourages this. “I’ve already sunk $200 trying to get this character, but the game says I’m guaranteed to get it in the next $75, so I might as well go all-in!”
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I plan my pulls for the next immediate patch as if I'd lose my 50/50s, but if I already have reserves and can plan for the long run, I do plan for slightly below average luck and not assume I will lose 50/50s and go to pity every time. Like an average of 120. As long as I don't turn out to be the unluckiest person in the world it should work out. That said I was actually a bit tempted to get the double top up bonus as a buffer for extreme bad luck. But unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) I'd just upgraded my PC so I'm in a more frugal mood right now
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qbert posted:For Swarm Disaster and Gold & Gears, you really have to exploit the mechanics of the modes. You can't really brute force your way through it no matter how good your teams are. The good thing is that there are some genuinely busted strats that people have come up with that can make them WAY easier even at the higher difficulties. Personally, I just focused on getting the Self-Modeling Resins and left it at that, as the really hard rewards aren't amazing or anything. I have found both Swam Disaster and Gold & Gears to be really annoying in that they take simultaneously too long or they are over instantly. I haven't sunk much time into them but they weren't that fun for me. I'll give the capitalism method a try. Capitalism, ho!
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I know it's dumb but I probably prefer gacha mechanics to everything being smoothed out. Part of why I enjoy these games (and I've only played this and Genshin to be fair) is that I feel a lot of other games these days are generally too fast to progress through and have very little friction of any sort. Playing these games as basically Welkin/maybe battlepass only you have to make long term resource allocation plans. I like feeling like there's an at least slightly meaningful difference between spending 1500 resin between to farm new relics for character A or grind out parts to ascend/level up traces for character B. I guess you don't need gacha mechanics to do that but if it felt completely smoothed out I think it'd lose a bit of appeal, even if it's almost objectively better for society or whatever.
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I've never minded spending in the game, but the only times I've spent more than the BP and welkin were for Argenti’s and Ratio's lightcones. Each time, it was only about an extra $20, and I don't regret it, though I admit it's a bit absurd.
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If I knew the exact pull that would give the 5* I could pull for 4* characters on banners where I don't want the 5*. Also I have below average luck so I'd be better off. But also the randomness is kind of fun, and I'd probably not enjoy pulling as much without it. I already assume I'll have to go to soft pity, so it's a nice surprise to get something early.
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Mar 27, 2024 02:52
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where Acheron
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Meowywitch posted:where Acheron She got lost and ended up in a different game https://twitter.com/mhunter_45/status/1772413559747629293
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Anno posted:I know it's dumb but I probably prefer gacha mechanics to everything being smoothed out. Part of why I enjoy these games (and I've only played this and Genshin to be fair) is that I feel a lot of other games these days are generally too fast to progress through and have very little friction of any sort. Playing these games as basically Welkin/maybe battlepass only you have to make long term resource allocation plans. I like feeling like there's an at least slightly meaningful difference between spending 1500 resin between to farm new relics for character A or grind out parts to ascend/level up traces for character B. I guess you don't need gacha mechanics to do that but if it felt completely smoothed out I think it'd lose a bit of appeal, even if it's almost objectively better for society or whatever. The main issue with gacha mechanics especially with respect to Star Rail is that many characters don't feel feature complete until they have their signature lightcone. After that, most new characters get increasingly busted as you add more Eidolons to them. There's a dramatic disincentive to invest money into making your fav stronger because there is no content for you to blow up with all that power.
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I'm always surprised how much people worry about light cones and eidolons when it's objectively not necessary to clear the existing content, and knowing that even if they couldn't clear a few stages of MoC without it, that still wouldn't even remotely justify the jade expenditure of extra eidolons. I get wanting to have characters just to have them, but paying to max them out in a game with a relatively low difficulty ceiling is just odd to me. Not talking about $20 or anything, I mean people dropping hundreds on a single character. I guess some people just don't care about money/have enough that it doesn't matter, but it seems like such a worthless investment to me.
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Eej posted:The main issue with gacha mechanics especially with respect to Star Rail is that many characters don't feel feature complete until they have their signature lightcone. After that, most new characters get increasingly busted as you add more Eidolons to them. There's a dramatic disincentive to invest money into making your fav stronger because there is no content for you to blow up with all that power. I'm still early in HSR but yeah, judging by Genshin I believe that for sure. I think it's weird that there aren't more incentives to push your characters. Though also that's probably good in the grand scheme of things? idk I think the ideal outcome is that you're able to pass all the content in the game with a mid-ish level of investment and anything more than that is just because you want to do it faster/more efficiently or just see how high you can make numbers go for your favorite characters.
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Well that's 5 for 5 hitting the 50/50, and I got her well before pity. Guess I'm better off with the gambling this patch.
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disappointing rolls Almost hit hard pity to get Acheron, lost 50/50 on her LC the only consolation is I now have s6 GNSW, so S5 for Acheron and a spare (and a guarantee on a future LC)
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Clarste posted:Even if you fail, you'll create a parallel universe where you succeeded, so all you have to do is transfer your consciousness over to that.
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Excelzior posted:disappointing rolls It's actually losing the 75/25 on her LC, which smarts even more
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It's funny how  Luocha's trial is compared to Acheron's.
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33 pulls for 1 Gallagher. I'm content and saving my pity for Boothill.
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Eej posted:It's actually losing the 75/25 on her LC, which smarts even more thank you for reminding me  VVV ahh so THAT's where all my luck went Excelzior fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Mar 27, 2024 |
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Archon in 40 and her LC in 10. Thank you RNG gods.
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Huh. I had 60 tickets, with gems for more... I spent 10 tickets and got 5* Clara... I spent 10 more and got Acheron... Now what? E: I got her LC after 10 tickets now, someone help.
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Literally the first thing Aventurine says to you this patch is, "friend." How was I getting tempted to pull for Acheron, who has never given me 10, 000 credits, instead of 5 time friendship mentioner Aventurine? Ridiculous.
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Acheron and LC got. Finished out Pela Eidolons and got E1 on Gallagher which is cool. Something I somehow missed in the presentations on her is Acheron's Ult is a new keypress for each phase.
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Y'all took my luck. For the second time now I got to 82 pulls before hitting Luocha. Along the way I got *three* OG Dan eidolons, now up to E5. In good news I guess I didn't have Pela or (obv) Gallagher and I got them both to E2.
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I got Acheron's LC twice literally back to back touching on the draw screen so I guess Welt's walking stick is gonna hit like a tactical nuke once I grind up a better Pioneer set for him.
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E2 Welt as the nihility fakeout spoiler. Got Acheron but it took long enough I've nixed going for any eidolons this patch. I'll throw everything else at her LC and see how it goes. Got up to E4 Gallagher and E4&5 Xueyi which is great since I had terrible luck on her last banner.
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