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Quantum of Phallus posted:been saying this. RT is a scam pushed by Nvidia and Digshitshill Floundry Lol, Quake2 RTX is the only good implementation of ray tracing. Plus, it’s fun to play. Unfortunately you can only do that on a pretty beefy PC.
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# ? May 11, 2024 16:42 |
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Descent Raytraced would be good if the mouselook in modern descent source ports worked well.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 03:26 |
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RTGI (including anything that uses Lumen) and full blown path tracing are great, everything else is mostly a waste of time.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 05:16 |
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https://x.com/tomwarren/status/1772666364731224164?s=20 Next Xbox will be a PC/Console hybrid?
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 08:00 |
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Steam on Xbox, sure.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 08:20 |
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John F Bennett posted:Next Xbox will be a PC/Console hybrid? Not sure, but to me it seems more likely to serve as more of a cross-buy feature. Like you can buy/play a game on Xbox with Epic but also you own it via epic so you can play it on PC too. But if you play it on Xbox MS takes a %. Notice it doesn't mention Steam. If they made the exact same announcement with Steam instead of Epic people would have gones nuts. But it's epic lol.
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TheScott2K posted:Descent Raytraced would be good if the mouselook in modern descent source ports worked well. I played through Descent 1 and 2 again a few years back by way of Descent Reborn or something. I think it did the lighting rework pretty well, I remember staring at the flare bullet that the first enemy in the game fires at you, float by me and light the corridor real nice. And yeah from the last page: gently caress raytracing, just give me 60fps. I didn't know I needed that before I had a XSX and now I never want to lose it again.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 10:54 |
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Planet Zoo is a lot of fun. It's the same game as Planet Coaster, the UI/UX is identical. It just has animals instead of rides, and much nicer graphics.
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veni veni veni posted:Not sure, but to me it seems more likely to serve as more of a cross-buy feature. Like you can buy/play a game on Xbox with Epic but also you own it via epic so you can play it on PC too. But if you play it on Xbox MS takes a %. Perhaps they'll keep it locked down in some ways, but once they start allowing the running of standard windows applications on the Xbox I think it's fair to say it's basically a PC.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 11:14 |
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That’s not happening
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 11:20 |
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So Microsoft expects Epic and other third party stores to port their software to the Xbox? Maybe, but that's a lot of extra money, work and would leave a bunch of gaps where publishers refuse, like anything by Sony. It doesn't really fix anything, it doesn't stop the fleeing of publishers from the ecosystem to PC or solve the inbalance between the PS/XB libraries. Granted, half-measures are Microsoft's thing so you're probably right. If I Did It, third party stores would be given their own VM sandbox and limited Windows environment isolated from the Xbox side. Game libraries and store could be brought over relatively easily, while keeping the security of the Xbox intact (though being able to run arbitrary software, even in a VM, is admittedly an attack vector). Microsoft still has control over the stores and can enforce rules, take percentages or whatever. That way, the Xbox can play Spider-Man. SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Mar 27, 2024 |
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How is mouse and keyboard on cloud? My work productivity is going to plummet with AoE II and Halo Infinite...
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 12:17 |
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I hope they will name the Xbox handheld the Xboy.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 13:30 |
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Planet Zoo is fun but complicated. Never played planet coaster.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 13:41 |
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SCheeseman posted:So Microsoft expects Epic and other third party stores to port their software to the Xbox? I don't know but I sure am excited to spend the next 20 pages building a whole alternate reality universe based on one poorly worded tweet from some idiot. Timdog was right.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 14:06 |
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Don't Epic and most third-party console publishers already publish for Xbox? Sony is kind of a special case here.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 14:07 |
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ColdPie posted:I don't know but I sure am excited to spend the next 20 pages building a whole alternate reality universe based on one poorly worded tweet from some idiot. There's quotes in the article from Phil Spencer openly questioning the continued relevance of the console sales and marketing model. Once they get rid of that, things get pretty weird and it's fun to speculate how.
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kri kri posted:Planet Zoo is fun but complicated. Never played planet coaster. I enjoyed what I got to play of it last night (basically the first campaign zoo) but I can't help but think it would be a lot less complicated if they just let me use the analog sticks like a mouse cursor, the D-Pad could also be much better utilized.
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PriorMarcus posted:I enjoyed what I got to play of it last night (basically the first campaign zoo) but I can't help but think it would be a lot less complicated if they just let me use the analog sticks like a mouse cursor, the D-Pad could also be much better utilized. I'm a bit used to it because of Planet Coaster, but the controls have always been weird and cumbersome. You'll mostly be juggling with the bumpers, Dpad, and lots of nested menus. The tutorial doesn't always tell you where the button you are supposed to click can be found, which can be frustrating when it's hidden in a menu that will only be visible using a certain key combo you might not know about yet.
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John F Bennett posted:I hope they will name the Xbox handheld the Xboy. Yboy
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SCheeseman posted:There's quotes in the article from Phil Spencer openly questioning the continued relevance of the console sales and marketing model. Once they get rid of that, things get pretty weird and it's fun to speculate how.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 15:58 |
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Game budgets too big
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 16:03 |
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theyre going to make the next xbox a prebuilt windows pc with a custom os skin, it will run whatever runs on windows within spec possibly portable. think an xbox branded lenovo go.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 16:05 |
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I saw this comment on a thread about RT on reddit. This guy could be completely making all of this up, but it confirms all the suspicions I've had about RT so I'm gonna post it and half believe it until someone in here who knows about this stuff can say the oppositequote:"So here's a dirty secret about raytracing, speaking as someone who has been building graphics engines since the late 80's and has written a handful of raytracers -- it'll never really happen. I assume he means DF when he says DR.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 16:41 |
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I don’t know who this Ray Tracing is, but it sure sounds like he’s up to no good.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 16:47 |
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He was one of the Ghost Busters, wasn't he?
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 17:02 |
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Timdog died for this? So this Ray Tracing wanker could get away and do whatever he pleases??
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 17:02 |
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Love putting RT on in things. I love cinematic modes. Skill issue if you dont
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 17:47 |
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Destroy your frame rate brain. If you grew up with the N64 this should be second nature. Anything above 20fps is fine
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hatty posted:Destroy your frame rate brain. If you grew up with the N64 this should be second nature. Anything above 20fps is fine
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 17:50 |
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I like ray tracing so I simply play dragons dogma 2 on PC and get 60+ frames most of the time because I am not playing on a 6 y/o PC or whatever
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Seltzer posted:I saw this comment on a thread about RT on reddit. This guy could be completely making all of this up, but it confirms all the suspicions I've had about RT so I'm gonna post it and half believe it until someone in here who knows about this stuff can say the opposite quote:And what happened? Same thing as before -- developers realized they could use that compute time to get faster framerates, or process more geometry, or run more compute-intensive shaders with far more bang-for-the-buck.
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Professor Beetus posted:I like ray tracing so I simply play dragons dogma 2 on PC and get 60+ frames most of the time because I am not playing on a 6 y/o PC or whatever Yeah same. And its ray traced global illumination is pretty good, first RT feature I've seen in an RE engine game that wasn't optimized into garbage. Kinda saves it from looking like a PS4 game
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acksplode posted:Yeah same. And its ray traced global illumination is pretty good, first RT feature I've seen in an RE engine game that wasn't optimized into garbage. Kinda saves it from looking like a PS4 game 100%, some of the textures would look like dog poo poo without the frankly incredible lighting and shading, which looks much better with rt turned on
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 18:00 |
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Ray-traced audio is the real cool feature. More games need to do stuff like that.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 18:01 |
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John F Bennett posted:I hope they will name the Xbox handheld the Xboy. They can't. It has to be Vert's little sister.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 18:04 |
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I don’t give a dog’s dick about graphics if da game isn’t fun. Nintendo are still the only big company to understand this but Xbox seem to be turning toward the light with stuff like HiFi Rush and Pentiment
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 19:23 |
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Seltzer posted:I saw this comment on a thread about RT on reddit. This guy could be completely making all of this up, but it confirms all the suspicions I've had about RT so I'm gonna post it and half believe it until someone in here who knows about this stuff can say the opposite It sounds like they just renamed something "ray tracing" just like they renamed auto correct as "AI" and putting a box on your head and playing Second Life is "virtual reality".
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 19:50 |
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I don't have time to test it but it looks like Diablo IV is now out on Game Pass PC, one day early. It asked me to connect a Battle.net account and clicking the Install button opens its own Blizzard installer instead of the Xbox App default. 94 GB size. https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/store/diablo-iv-pc/9N0H62KZ3BXV/0010 Doesn't look like the Xbox version has been flagged for Game Pass yet, at least not on the web store.
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# ? May 11, 2024 16:42 |
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Rise of the ronin, a ps5 console exclusive, has a “ray tracing” option. It seems to just make it run at 25fps and look even more like an early ps4 title.
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