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mawarannahr posted:🚨 BREAKING NEWS 🚀 thank you... vital information...
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Keeping people in a frightened state causes stupid things like this. https://twitter.com/MalloryMcMorrow/status/1773324424504111303
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Mar 28, 2024 15:24
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Not looking particularly likely for SBF getting any sort of lighter sentence when the judge just out and out told him he committed perjury during the sentencing hearing 10 minutes ago or so. Witness tampering too. I hear courts hate it.
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Mar 28, 2024 15:24
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Silly Burrito posted:Keeping people in a frightened state causes stupid things like this. Those kids had to fly Allegiant AND eat Subway, they have been punished enough.
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Mar 28, 2024 15:52
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Kale posted:Not looking particularly likely for SBF getting any sort of lighter sentence when the judge just out and out told him he committed perjury during the sentencing hearing 10 minutes ago or so. Witness tampering too. I hear courts hate it. He got 25 years just now
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Mar 28, 2024 16:48
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Bar Ran Dun posted:Require tugs during all major bridge transits during maneuvering. That’s what I think will eventually change because of this. Free tugs, you say? 
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Mar 28, 2024 16:50
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haveblue posted:He got 25 years just now Judge brutally roasted him for like 10 minutes too https://twitter.com/innercitypress/status/1773375648704147461
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Mar 28, 2024 16:51
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haveblue posted:He got 25 years just now Which by the way is half what the prosecution asked for and a quarter of what the sentencing guidelines recommend per NPR. https://www.npr.org/2024/03/28/1241...%20in%20prison.
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Mar 28, 2024 16:57
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Kalli posted:Which by the way is half what the prosecution asked for and a quarter of what the sentencing guidelines recommend per NPR. well he's the literal worst and he lied more than i ever done saw as a judge. but i am seeing no indication of being lower class and/or not white, so the sentencing is at one fourth of full power. DISMISSED
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Mar 28, 2024 17:05
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Maybe it's my general opinion of the crypto world but 25 years federal time seems.... fine? Like I don't think that we should sentencing people to 100+ years unless it's necessary to keep society safe...
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Mar 28, 2024 17:48
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captainblastum posted:Maybe it's my general opinion of the crypto world but 25 years federal time seems.... fine? Like I don't think that we should sentencing people to 100+ years unless it's necessary to keep society safe... Yeah, I don't like that the rich, white business crime fraud manchild got a lighter sentence, but his lighter sentence is in line with my tummyfeels on what a max incarceration should ever really be. It's a very complex reaction.
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Mar 28, 2024 17:52
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My general opinion of the crypto world is that everyone in it should be jailed for life, so this is pretty light
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Mar 28, 2024 17:53
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Xiahou Dun posted:Yeah, I don't like that the rich, white business crime fraud manchild got a lighter sentence, but his lighter sentence is in line with my tummyfeels on what a max incarceration should ever really be. It's a very complex reaction. Yeah same honestly. It’s hard to see people getting way worse sentences for what amounts to petty theft while this guy gets 25, but the problem is really on the other side of that, not the crypto bro side.
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Mar 28, 2024 17:55
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There's no way the sentencing guidelines actually recommend 110 years, because the federal sentencing guidelines only go up to like 30 years and then life. (And as far as I know, the only federal crime you get life for is murder.) There were several counts of fraud and whatnot, but federal sentencing guidelines also say that you basically just take the greatest sentence of all the counts and that's the sentence. (You essentially serve your time concurrently.) On the plus(?) side, federal time doesn't have parole, so 25 years means 25 years.
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Mar 28, 2024 18:00
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haveblue posted:My general opinion of the crypto world is that everyone in it should be jailed for life, so this is pretty light
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Mar 28, 2024 18:10
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:Yeah same honestly. It’s hard to see people getting way worse sentences for what amounts to petty theft while this guy gets 25, but the problem is really on the other side of that, not the crypto bro side. My cynicism almost goes the other way, it feels like they're nailing him for loving with rich people's money when there's countless other corps getting away with all sorts of financial fuckery. or the fact we're still waiting for Trump to see an ounce of consequence for his countless crimes and legal fuckery.
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Mar 28, 2024 18:26
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He caused varying levels of harm to tens of thousands of people and deserves to spend the rest of his life behind bars. To quote Going Postal: quote:When Banks Fail, It Is Seldom Bankers Who Starve. Your Actions Have Taken Money From Those Who Had Little Enough To Begin With. In A Myriad Small Ways You Have Hastened The Deaths Of Many. You Do Not Know Them. You Did Not See Them Bleed. But You Snatched Bread From Their Mouths And Tore Clothes From Their Backs. For Sport, Mr Lipvig. For Sport. For The Joy Of The Game.
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Mar 28, 2024 18:36
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Silly Burrito posted:Keeping people in a frightened state causes stupid things like this. Commissioner Sankey, I get that you want more P5 teams in the NCAA Tournament, but this is taking it a step too far.
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Mar 28, 2024 18:38
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zoux posted:Judge brutally roasted him for like 10 minutes too I can't imagine who on Earth might have put this judge into "I'm not taking anymore loving poo poo" mode recently????
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Mar 28, 2024 18:48
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Zapp Brannigan posted:I can't imagine who on Earth might have put this judge into "I'm not taking anymore loving poo poo" mode recently???? This is the same judge that was on the Donziger case? One can only speculate.
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Mar 28, 2024 19:15
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They were talking about Trump
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Mar 28, 2024 19:19
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TheDoublePivot posted:This is the same judge that was on the Donziger case? One can only speculate. He's the judge who presided over the E Jean Carroll defamation stuff
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Mar 28, 2024 19:35
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Xiahou Dun posted:Yeah, I don't like that the rich, white business crime fraud manchild got a lighter sentence, but his lighter sentence is in line with my tummyfeels on what a max incarceration should ever really be. It's a very complex reaction. I think I understand where you're coming from. It's a reasonable sentence for the crime that was committed, but it sucks that only rich white people get reasonable sentences while poor people of color can go to jail forever for doing things that aren't nearly as bad (or for things that are entirely harmless). Basically, this is a time where a rich white person got treated in a way that should be standard for everyone.
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Mar 28, 2024 21:24
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FlamingLiberal posted:They were talking about Trump The guy that got his bail posting reduced by 2/3rds and got an extra 10 days for no reason? Yeah, seems like the judge is really sticking it to him alright. Such consequences!
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Mar 28, 2024 23:01
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still holding out for maximum comedy outcome of "gets his bond slashed to a fraction, still can't post it, gets hosed" won't get it, because trump is an infinity jam-wriggle engine. but still holding out
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Mar 29, 2024 00:11
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Oil! posted:He caused varying levels of harm to tens of thousands of people and deserves to spend the rest of his life behind bars. What was the term that was used? "Actuarial murder?" I think? It's been a while since I read it. A very fitting description of a large part of our economy.
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Mar 29, 2024 00:26
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Sephyr posted:The guy that got his bail posting reduced by 2/3rds and got an extra 10 days for no reason? Yeah, seems like the judge is really sticking it to him alright. Such consequences! Did Kaplan do that, or was it the appeals court?
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Mar 29, 2024 04:04
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Yawgmoft posted:Did Kaplan do that, or was it the appeals court? It was an appeals court.
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Mar 29, 2024 04:35
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lol remember the outside of a horse quote thing a couple years ago, with Pence that gets attributed to Reagan or Churchill. Goofy cartoon. As a saying it was popularized by How to Ride a Horse a Goofy short released inside another movie originally in 1941.
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Mar 29, 2024 05:10
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Oil! posted:He caused varying levels of harm to tens of thousands of people and deserves to spend the rest of his life behind bars. He did steal a bunch of money from crypto investors though, that public service mitigates it a little.
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Mar 29, 2024 06:20
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Bar Ran Dun posted:lol remember the outside of a horse quote thing a couple years ago, with Pence that gets attributed to Reagan or Churchill. Well yeah, there's nothing better for the inside of a movie than the outside of a Goofy short.
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Mar 29, 2024 06:53
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Sephyr posted:The guy that got his bail posting reduced by 2/3rds and got an extra 10 days for no reason? Yeah, seems like the judge is really sticking it to him alright. Such consequences! It's not "bail".
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Mar 29, 2024 08:22
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Sephyr posted:The guy that got his bail posting reduced by 2/3rds and got an extra 10 days for no reason? Yeah, seems like the judge is really sticking it to him alright. Such consequences! Wrong judge. That was Engoron who imposed the half billion bond. This is the judge that keeps slapping him for defaming E Jean Carrol
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Mar 29, 2024 12:51
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Yawgmoft posted:Did Kaplan do that, or was it the appeals court? Not only did Kaplan not do that, the Judges (actually Justices because New York has the country’s most confusing court system) who did it are not even part of the same court system as Kaplan.
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Mar 29, 2024 13:27
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Bar Ran Dun posted:Require tugs during all major bridge transits during maneuvering. That’s what I think will eventually change because of this.
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cat botherer posted:Wouldn't it be distracting for the pilot to be receiving a tug during delicate maneuvers? only if they're inexperienced
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Mar 29, 2024 15:06
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It's like the gom jabbar, they gotta be able to do the litany against cumming and get thru it to know if they're worthy of being a captain
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Mar 29, 2024 15:41
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Bar Ran Dun posted:I have done those inspections. Very often jointly with USCG. There will be changes that occur there. how many years would they have to run those tug escorts to equal the cost of the bridge collapse event. like a hundred, two hundred
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Mar 29, 2024 16:49
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Staluigi posted:how many years would they have to run those tug escorts to equal the cost of the bridge collapse event. like a hundred, two hundred Quick lunchtime math from numbers I could find: seems like the tugs cost maybe $5000 average and there are around 300-600 big cargo ship movements in that port in a year (hard to exactly tell what numbers are for what vessel types). The cost estimate for replacement is like $400M so it'd take like 100,000 of those tug fees to reach that cost. So yeah it seems like somewhere on the order of 300 years to reach the same cost. Bar Ran Dun might have a better idea than my quick look though.
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Kagrenak posted:Quick lunchtime math from numbers I could find: seems like the tugs cost maybe $5000 average and there are around 300-600 big cargo ship movements in that port in a year (hard to exactly tell what numbers are for what vessel types). The cost estimate for replacement is like $400M so it'd take like 100,000 of those tug fees to reach that cost. So yeah it seems like somewhere on the order of 300 years to reach the same cost. Bar Ran Dun might have a better idea than my quick look though. Far longer. They already have to pay the tugs. This would just be the tugs going slightly farther. Basically the added cost is just paying for the finish Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Mar 29, 2024 |
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