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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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fizziester
Dec 21, 2023

Pistol_Pete posted:

From the UK's Times:

(Paywalled) https://archive.is/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/its-time-we-talked-about-the-fall-of-kyiv-6l3vrxbhf

Perhaps Ukraine holds on and Europe gets its act together, using the clout of a GDP ten times bigger than Russia

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stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Raskolnikov38 posted:

if kyiv falls can we all go back to calling it Kiev

They got to put a House of Putin sigil on that giant statue first.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Egg Moron posted:

What are you going to arm yourself with, The West? fidelity 401k’s with a 2% pay matching scheme? Gonna send in western grant writing advisors from American liberal arts colleges?

you can invest in my new company, Howtzr, which aims to use AI to disrupt artillery shell production with the power of web3 on the blockchain

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

I've mentioned before, we cannot entice the company that potentially makes shells to do so, because their orders from the automotive industry are more profitable.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

I've mentioned before, we cannot entice the company that potentially makes shells to do so, because their orders from the automotive industry are more profitable.

Hmm, is this the German Greens' moment?

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Both the Prime Minister and Premier visited their factory lol

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

my bony fealty posted:

It's fascinating that Soviet citizens just assumed Western nations also gave their citizens free or heavily subsidized healthcare and housing and guaranteed employment, USSR really failed at the internal propaganda there

american propaganda was far more sophisticated then lol. Also at the time you could be a very skilled knowledge worker and move to the west to have a much higher quality of life.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

stephenthinkpad posted:

WTF, the sub I go to check new Ukraine Russia Reports has gone private.

The west has gone desperate. Now you know they will definitely kick TikTok out of the US.

I will check new videos on bilibili, but they are not in English. I don't know any place I can follow or discuss new war videos in English.

their discord said they were being brigaded by pro ukraine supporters who were breaking sub rules and reporting it to reddit admins so they took it private.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Raskolnikov38 posted:

if kyiv falls can we all go back to calling it Kiev

I never stopped. And it's funny when libs try to correct me.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

spacetoaster posted:

I never stopped. And it's funny when libs try to correct me.

OK, but watch this: The Ukraine

RedSky
Oct 30, 2023
I am triggered. I am spiralling.

Deadly Ham Sandwich
Aug 19, 2009
Smellrose

In Training posted:

Why does iOS have 99.5% market share in dprk????

North Korea is a workers paradise. Every factory worker can have any luxury good they want.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Tankbuster posted:

their discord said they were being brigaded by pro ukraine supporters who were breaking sub rules and reporting it to reddit admins so they took it private.

Well I guess the desperate ones were the NAFO dudes not the IDF who control reddit?

Too bad I was only following it with a throw away account and didn't subscribe to it.

BTW reddit is banning new accounts accessing though free VPN extensions, good thing I have a few paid VPN handy.

Sanlav
Feb 10, 2020

We'll Meet Again
I feel like one day soon, Zelensky is gonna meet up with his handlers and get Daniel Plainsfielded.

America please, I'm in desperate times!
I need a friend, I feel the walls closing in
I HAVE SINNED. I need HIMARS and Abrahms!

America is gonna sneer back and drink up that milkshake.

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

We already gave him so much and he still managed to lose. Bad investment, costs are sunk.

Leandros
Dec 14, 2008

stephenthinkpad posted:

Well I guess the desperate ones were the NAFO dudes not the IDF who control reddit?

Too bad I was only following it with a throw away account and didn't subscribe to it.

BTW reddit is banning new accounts accessing though free VPN extensions, good thing I have a few paid VPN handy.

gotta keep up to date on those fapping subs, money well spent imo

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

gradenko_2000 posted:

Also the USSR had plenty of consumer goods. It was Gorbachev's reforms that caused the availability of goods to go down, because without GOSPLAN to mandate that a factory manager had to produce baby socks and wooden toy cars, factory managers would instead chase after the highest-margin products. No more baby socks and toys, because of capitalism.

This was always a thing though, and it was part of Gosplan's job to crackdown on anyone doing something like that.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Lostconfused posted:

This was always a thing though, and it was part of Gosplan's job to crackdown on anyone doing something like that.

By 1987, companies had to fulfill state contracts but otherwise could do what they willed on the consumer side and so shortages started as companies tried to game the system as much as possible. Also, enterprises could go bankrupt if they couldn't support themselves otherwise. It was basically internal wrecking.

The key to it wasn't really Gorbachev himself really, but Andropov who had promoted him and was willing to let Yakovlev back in who was clear was anti-regime. Chernenko tried to throw water on the issue by demoting Gorbachev but he died and there wasn't enough resistance left in the politburo to stop him. Basically, the Soviet Union didn't die in 1991 but in March 1985. Btw, Chernenko was ethnically Ukrainian ironically enough.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Been hearing a lot of the "Fish rots from the head" over the past two years.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Lostconfused posted:

Been hearing a lot of the "Fish rots from the head" over the past two years.

Actually the fish rots bottom up from material conditions

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

This GMT game is going to be a train wreck. Still, they start off this dev diary on a solid footing




but then..

DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 16:15 on Mar 28, 2024

hmhb fan
Feb 4, 2024

lmao and Ireland know what it's like to live next to an expansionist Britain (and are still occupied in then north by them). The absolute gall of these people.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

genericnick posted:

Actually the fish rots bottom up from material conditions

How does that happen in the first place though? Arguably, the Soviet Union in the early 1980s wasn't experiencing sudden catastrophic setbacks and if anything the Second Oil Crisis had helped it in some ways. Look at the US as well from the 1980s to now.

A country isn't killed on the streets, it is killed in the backrooms.

----

Andropov is an interesting question mark because for most of his career until 1980-81 he was doctrinaire and generally a hardliner but beginning with the Polish crisis he made a right-turn, including appointing Gorbachev and other liberals to the politburo and experiencing some light economic liberalization. A lot of things had let slip under Brezhnev but it seemed Andropov led a more sudden acceleration.

----

hmhb fan posted:

lmao and Ireland know what it's like to live next to an expansionist Britain (and are still occupied in then north by them). The absolute gall of these people.

The UK always seemed the result of about a thousand years of Norman arrogance running through its cycle.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

genericnick posted:

Actually the fish rots bottom up from material conditions

Material conditions being that most people are not interested in the socialist project and are happy to enjoy their material comforts so once the party fails to enforce the ideological line it all goes to poo poo.

Bar Crow
Oct 10, 2012

Lostconfused posted:

Been hearing a lot of the "Fish rots from the head" over the past two years.

The purpose of power is to steal stuff, indulge vices, and avoid work. Once all the friction is smoothed out by excuses, power moves in its inevitable direction.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Lostconfused posted:

Material conditions being that most people are not interested in the socialist project and are happy to enjoy their material comforts so once the party fails to enforce the ideological line it all goes to poo poo.

I think in the case of Brezhnev and Andropov you had old men who had been comfortable for quite a long time, and at a certain point they "tuned out" so to speak, and became more and more influenced by younger party members who had their own ideas. Granted, in the case of the Soviet Union, you had people in government who were not just not interested in the socialist project but honestly could barely contain their open hatred of the country, which is why it is so bizarre.

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor


that drink has nothing to do with being a martini other than the glass :smith:

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Sapozhnik posted:

My father complained at one point that vegetables in the Brezhnev era had so much nitrate in them that they would cause cancer and that people would have to buy edible vegetables on the black market or something like that. I also dimly remember from my very early childhood that meat from the tail end of the Soviet union was gristly and awful as well.

you know maybe ive just been too broken down and brainwormed by the constant influx of putinesque tankie propaganda i consume in this thread but i cant help but feel like your father was mostly just trying to come up with an excuse for why he didnt want to eat his vegetables

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

if you put too many nitrates on plants they get burnt up sorta like the osmotic pressures from other salt ions. don't think you can cram so many nitrates into a plant that it can do much of anything to a human body before killing the plant...

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china

In Training posted:

Why does iOS have 99.5% market share in dprk????

dprk going to replace the worker's party brush with a stylus

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Marzzle posted:

if you put too many nitrates on plants they get burnt up sorta like the osmotic pressures from other salt ions. don't think you can cram so many nitrates into a plant that it can do much of anything to a human body before killing the plant...

There are some studies that show there can be issues with nitrates in very high concentrations, like in production facilities, but it isn't really a reason to use them in everyday agriculture. I assume by "black market" they mean their father would buy roadside vegetables people were growing from their own plots rather than state or collective farms.

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Lostconfused posted:

Material conditions being that most people are not interested in:

the socialist project

and are happy to enjoy

their material comforts


so once the party fails to enforce the ideological line it all goes to poo poo.

Those are the same thing though. As demonstrated when the socialist project ended and their material comforts plummeted in a world historic fashion.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

This GMT game is going to be a train wreck. Still, they start off this dev diary on a solid footing




but then..



Why would you make a game about a conflict that's still ongoing

You're going to look like a dipshit either way

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

This GMT game is going to be a train wreck. Still, they start off this dev diary on a solid footing




but then..



That cocktail sucks

Hatebag
Jun 17, 2008


ammonium nitrate fertilizer costs money. why would they waste it if times were lean? applied directly to the dirt it can get into water supplies, though, and it is carcinogenic. that's one reason it's frequently injected as an aqueous solution a few feet underground

VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

"Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"

Raskolnikov38 posted:

if kyiv falls can we all go back to calling it Kiev

You should call it the Kiev

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Ardennes posted:

How does that happen in the first place though? Arguably, the Soviet Union in the early 1980s wasn't experiencing sudden catastrophic setbacks and if anything the Second Oil Crisis had helped it in some ways. Look at the US as well from the 1980s to now.

A country isn't killed on the streets, it is killed in the backrooms.

----

Andropov is an interesting question mark because for most of his career until 1980-81 he was doctrinaire and generally a hardliner but beginning with the Polish crisis he made a right-turn, including appointing Gorbachev and other liberals to the politburo and experiencing some light economic liberalization. A lot of things had let slip under Brezhnev but it seemed Andropov led a more sudden acceleration.

----

The UK always seemed the result of about a thousand years of Norman arrogance running through its cycle.

Certainly not from the streets, but the party?

Hatebag
Jun 17, 2008


KomradeX posted:

That cocktail sucks

oh, you don't want twice as much sugary mixers as you do booze? it's like a very lovely margarita by someone who had the concept vaguely described to them

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1772171486520082607

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Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

I take it nothing is actually happening in Ukraine beyond Russia's slow but steady encroachment on multiple fronts slowly bleeding them dry?

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