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Yuffie's Brumal Form can kind of do that. Or Perfect Defense materia and go Sekiro on his rear end with perfect blocks.
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lines posted:I'm a bit confused about the Chadley-related cutscene during the Nibel protorelic quest. Can someone explain? How is Chadley in Hojo's lab if he's all around the world? I'm pretty sure that's Chadley's real body and the one we've been interacting with is a cyborg body of some sort. The body we see in the lab also had a barcode on it's hand that our Chadley doesn't have and looks like it might be a fully grown body and not a kid(though it's a little hard to tell with the cloth covering the rest of the body). We're probably going to have to rescue the real Chadley in part 3 lines posted:Oh yeah, also, what do the numbers mean on the robed men? Hojo just likes to number his experiments. It's basically the order in which they were turned. Rhonne fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Mar 30, 2024 |
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Rhonne posted:Hojo just likes to number his experiments. It's basically the order in which they were turned. See also: Red XIII
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MechaX posted:Introducing a boss like Odin in a game where evades are not like Bayonetta dodges and poo poo is an… interesting choice Both of the ReGames are really particular about this: dodges are generally only supposed to be used against attacks that can't be dodged unless you're Tifa or Yuffie, and everything else is supposed to be blocked, or perfectly blocked if you can manage that. As far as I know you can still block Odin's non-unblockable attacks, and his non-non-unblockable attacks are typically pretty easy to avoid. Also, cast Bio and Deprotect on him.
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Instant Grat posted:It still bothers me a lot how light Reno and Rude's characterization is after they killed literal thousands of people at Sector 7. They should not get to be Charismatic Recurring Mini-villains after something like that. I did not understand the 'let them live' shtick either. Tifa and Barret of all people would have turned their heads into mulch, it's very odd they just moved on from their last encounter in the temple. Perhaps in part 3 when they meet for the final time in the train tunnels under Midgar, the party won't just let them walk away. Even my kid self thought that was a ridiculous thing to do after what happened with sector 7
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MechaX posted:Introducing a boss like Odin in a game where evades are not like Bayonetta dodges and poo poo is an… interesting choice his assess dialogue is sort of a misnomer - it recommends evading because zantetsuken is on a sliding scale of damage taken vs damage inflicted, and when it tips too far into odin's favor, he ends the fight. punisher counters would probably be better because you're doing far more damage than you take that way
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lines posted:Oh yeah, also, what do the numbers mean on the robed men? I'm pretty sure they indicate which of Hojo's experiments they are. Some of them have letters, which probably tells you exactly what he injected them with, since some guys got plain Jenova cells and others ("S-Type") got Sephiroth cells instead.
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Scotch and Kotch's stupid rap intro did not need to be that long but hell I'm glad it was
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:Scotch and Kotch's stupid rap intro did not need to be that long but hell I'm glad it was That whole sequence is great. I especially liked the intermission where the staff bring out benches and a vending machine so everyone can have a nice sit before the fight
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One of the most unintentionally (I think) funny bits about the post nibelham chapters is how often Vincent and Cid are just chilling with the gang but not fighting so whenever there is a big fight you get a cut to one or both of them sort of watching
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I'm glad the game manages to find the space to fit a third musical number.
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:Scotch and Kotch's stupid rap intro did not need to be that long but hell I'm glad it was I admire their tenacity in keeping up their "Corneoland" commentary bit, even after the Don's been trounced and the Feds have shown up.
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:One of the most unintentionally (I think) funny bits about the post nibelham chapters is how often Vincent and Cid are just chilling with the gang but not fighting so whenever there is a big fight you get a cut to one or both of them sort of watching The best one of those is outside of the Temple of the Ancients, where Cid is like "Whoa no I'm absolutely not going in there, but don't you worry, I'll be here to give you a quick exit once you return", it's all part of an actual cutscene. And then if you walk over to Vincent after the cutscene and talk to him he literally just says "I've got nothing" 
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Vincent being involved in the queens blood quest makes perfect character and narrative sense and also absolutely feels like they just needed to give him more to do
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:Vincent being involved in the queens blood quest makes perfect character and narrative sense and also absolutely feels like they just needed to give him more to do I don't know how to express this, but Vincent Valentine being a Yu-Gi-Oh nerd on top of everything else I know about him makes perfect sense. Also lol that he didn't help out in any of the combat, but he'll pull out the dual pistols when evil cards start getting involved
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Vincent and Kujata are both things I didn't get on my first playthrough of ff7 so sometimes I just forget they both exist. I'm picking up my save game on switch I abandoned to start remake back in February and I don't even remember where Kujata is. I assume gongaga adjacent?
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:Vincent and Kujata are both things I didn't get on my first playthrough of ff7 so sometimes I just forget they both exist. I'm picking up my save game on switch I abandoned to start remake back in February and I don't even remember where Kujata is. I assume gongaga adjacent? You can find Kujata in the sleeping forest on the way from Bone Village to the Forgotten Capital
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What’s the strategy for Rufus in chapter 12? I won the fight on the first try, but it was really messy and I wasn’t sure how I was ever actually supposed to attack in the first phase. I got a lucky stagger, then Bahamut got me to the second phase, which felt a lot more manageable, but it was very frustrating, and I have no clue what I was expected to do there.
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goethe.cx posted:You can find Kujata in the sleeping forest on the way from Bone Village to the Forgotten Capital I remember this. It was deliberately made to look like a leaf falling off one of the trees so if you were quick enough you could grab it
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Heithinn Grasida posted:What’s the strategy for Rufus in chapter 12? I won the fight on the first try, but it was really messy and I wasn’t sure how I was ever actually supposed to attack in the first phase. I got a lucky stagger, then Bahamut got me to the second phase, which felt a lot more manageable, but it was very frustrating, and I have no clue what I was expected to do there. I did it on dynamic by mostly just blocking and getting some chip atb with a weapon swing after his named attacks and then punishing him when he reloads with my atb attacks. I was surprised BC I remember reading a lot of people struggling with it but it felt like a redo of the last fight with him
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Most boss fights is basically 'block, and don't be the first to attack'
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Heithinn Grasida posted:What’s the strategy for Rufus in chapter 12? I won the fight on the first try, but it was really messy and I wasn’t sure how I was ever actually supposed to attack in the first phase. I got a lucky stagger, then Bahamut got me to the second phase, which felt a lot more manageable, but it was very frustrating, and I have no clue what I was expected to do there. Much like the first game he gets staggered instantly if you Braver him while reloading. The issue here now is that he's much harder because: 1. A lot of his moves knock you on your rear end if they land 2. He'll take that opportunity to Reload, giving you less opportunity to actually learn which moves or sequences of moves cause him to 'naturally' reload (Guns Akimbo will always do it) 3. He Reloads fast enough that you need to actually predict it, or else your Braver will land too late. The 'safer' method is hitting him with ranged basic attacks (attack out of a dodge) while he reloads, and then using Focused Thrust. The Punisher Mode counter will work on exactly one of his moves (Upthrust or something like that) but otherwise staying in Operator mode is preferable because it's better at blocking ranged attacks. Basically the 'intended' method is blocking or dodging constantly until he uses Guns Akimbo or a similar move, knowing that this is going to cause him to Reload, and hitting Braver as a shortcut before you even see the word 'Reload' appear. The annoying part of this is if you ranged-attack while too close to him (which you want to be, so your Braver will land!) and Cloud just goes into a normal basic attack which will get you knocked on your rear end. Only do three-hit attacks after dodging, I guess?
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bewilderment posted:The 'safer' method is hitting him with ranged basic attacks (attack out of a dodge) while he reloads, and then using Focused Thrust. You can just use Focused Thrust without bothering with the ranged basics. The first hit of the Thrust will pressure him, and most of the stagger is backloaded anyway.
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Chapter 12: lol at yuffie of all people trying to say cait sith is an rear end in a top hat who can't be trusted BC he stole from the party
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:Chapter 12: lol at yuffie of all people trying to say cait sith is an rear end in a top hat who can't be trusted BC he stole from the party Hey she hasn't stolen anything from the team...yet.
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So I’m still in the beginning of the game—loving the gently caress out of it btw—but it sounds like they didn’t correct the one complaint I had with the combat? Attacks that come out somewhat fast and totally rob you of controlling the selected character for long stretches are not really a good mechanic. Game’s lucky the whole system is based around swapping characters or that poo poo would be unforgivable. Genuinely my only complaint with the combat in Remake.
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bewilderment posted:2. He'll take that opportunity to Reload, giving you less opportunity to actually learn which moves or sequences of moves cause him to 'naturally' reload (Guns Akimbo will always do it) Similarly in phase 2 he'll always reload after the ice attack, I forget what it is called.
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Apologies if this is an old topic here but the moss grown adamantoise is wrecking my poo poo. I try to hit its "blind spot" with blizzard while it's doing barrier and that never seems to do anything. The front part gets covered with barrier and the back part doesn't. I literally just had red cast blizzara from behind while I could see the word barrier above it, and nothing happened. It then super wrecks my poo poo. Edit: just cast protect and shell on the party which also didn't help. Edit: ok. Pressured him using the elemental ice instead of the spells, since that goes off faster. Then used arcane ward and any time anyone got an atb, used blizzara inside the ward for a double cast. It was still a damage race and I only just won. redreader fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Mar 30, 2024 |
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I just did the first Nibel region protorelic quest This game is going to make me do this three more times isn’t it
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MechaX posted:I just did the first Nibel region protorelic quest 
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redreader posted:Apologies if this is an old topic here but the moss grown adamantoise is wrecking my poo poo. I'm pretty sure it's weak to fire spells, so use fira whenever you can and just spend time avoiding its attacks. I usually played as Barret, kept my distance and casted fire spells whenever I had the ATB.
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unattended spaghetti posted:So I’m still in the beginning of the game—loving the gently caress out of it btw—but it sounds like they didn’t correct the one complaint I had with the combat? Attacks that come out somewhat fast and totally rob you of controlling the selected character for long stretches are not really a good mechanic. Game’s lucky the whole system is based around swapping characters or that poo poo would be unforgivable. Genuinely my only complaint with the combat in Remake. This feels less like luck and more like intentional design choices.
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I love this game and a lot of the changes from Remake, but I am genuinely impressed by how much worse the leveling system feels. Objectively, you're getting just about the same results as the weapon galaxies, but with a little more variability in the final result. Subjectively, though, so much of it is streamlined to the point you don't notice it happening (like materia slots and minor power increases) or it's only unlocking a sidegrade for one of your weapon slots and it feels like you never get enough points on level up to do anything. In Rm, getting a weapon level up felt great, now it's just something you might get to eventually. The bookstore vending machines in improbable locations are way more immersion breaking than "you can upgrade stuff, don't think about it." At least make it a Chadley controlled drone, then it can explain why it's in this goddamn cave that has never been visited by humans.
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do not dare question the magical vending machines. They have existed since time immemorial and have silently witnessed eons of human history. To them civilizations rise and fall in the blink of an eye. Your meager existence is like that of a bug to them, over so quickly they would never even notice you were there. Also, their sales are incredible, one of them gave me three Diet Cokes for only a quarter last week.
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Augus posted:Your meager existence is like that of a bug to them, This is actually the company slogan for Clear Icicle.
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I dunno, with that kind of progression stuff I have found myself more and more aligned with Tim Rogers's perspective in that "they wanted to make a cinematic action-adventure game but they have to have enough RPG trappings to feel like it belongs in the franchise, and that's a good thing." Like the combat feels good to me in that it feels like a party with clearly distinct roles and synergies, and I'm getting new combat options regularly to keep things fresh. I really thought I'd feel some dissonance in leveling up materia and unlocking abilities from scratch that I already did in the first game, but oddly enough that really hasn't felt like a big deal to me.
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MechaX posted:I just did the first Nibel region protorelic quest The first time was probably the most annoying imo I think that was less painful than cactuar crush for me. I thought it was funny you get the l2 prompt to shove them despite it not really helping much like they knew it was annoying as hell when they made it
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instead of pressing the shove button just walk into their models to push them toward where they’re going
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Well I finished off most of the brutal/legendary VR stuff, all thanks to this single youtuber: https://www.youtube.com/@Optinooby/videos I even subbed to him for month via his patreon because his guides are literally the best I've ever seen for distilling complexity into easy to understand language with lots of affirmations and reminders. This guy needs to get into quantum mechanics so he explain to me how that works too. Last two legendary bouts are all that's left and seem the most ridiculous of them all. No easy cheese, forced into using characters you normally never use, and 10 rounds. Seriously who the gently caress thinks a 10 round boss fest with no checkpoints is doable in anyway for 99% of players? Thank god for those few that spent hours upon hours figuring out the guides for this stuff, they need to be getting payed by S-E. Anyway hoping to wrap up these last two VR and then start my Hard mode run. Haven't really soured on the game yet due to me knowing full well I didn't have the patience to gently caress around with this hard stuff and was going to use guides for it. If this youtuber didn't have such good videos I probably wouldn't even be bothering with the Plat. Also protip for a Barret mechanic I didn't even know existed prior to watching these guides: do a quick triangle push at the end of every action to recharge the triangle ability for basically free. Arkage fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Mar 30, 2024 |
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