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Clarste posted:Didn't Sparkle like knock you out and toss you into the Bad Zone? Although maybe you can consider that good since she's helping your investigation. Yeah she was literally trying to help. That is her helping. Sparkle has done nothing but try to help the MC for basically her entire time on screen, it's just that her assistance is... non-intuitive. I continue to be completely right about this: GoodluckJonathan posted:I feel bad for everyone saying Sparkle is a villain, is just trying to be an rear end in a top hat, is poorly written, etc.
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Endorph posted:i dont think any of the secrets are meant to be like, shocking swerves really. most of them are pretty obvious if you pay that much attention to things and the characters basically say 'i have a secret' when they walk onscreen. its just a thematic thing, its not trying to blow your mind If every single character outside the galaxy express is dishonest with you, there's no real emotional impact from their betrayal/reveal. More is more has always been the Hoyo way though e: I really did think gallagher was going to be the one exception, they got me padijun fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Mar 30, 2024 |
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padijun posted:If every single character outside the galaxy express is dishonest with you, there's no real emotional impact from their betrayal/reveal
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basically this update was 90% adventure boy pity party and it was awful i actually think the writing was ok to good, its definitely better than loving snore-fu planet where they built 1 interesting character and the immediately threw them in a toilet and flushed it while fart noises played. i cant stand this gambling prick tho. i legit hope he dies and him joining the party is like his loving ghost or alternate universe self or something
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Mar 30, 2024 02:33
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I think people are reacting... very strongly to the 2.X characters so far and it's got me a bit worried
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Better than people just saying mommy about Kafka or whatever.
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Dr Kool-AIDS posted:Better than people just saying mommy about Kafka or whatever.
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I think it’s amusing, similar to the anti-topaz vs pro-topaz rallies a bit back. Guess this is gonna happen with every IPC gem holder release
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Indecisive posted:basically this update was 90% adventure boy pity party and it was awful Please point on the doll which body part Adventurine won from you in a bet.
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They gotta stop having regular scenes with Alley. I did that Dreamscape quest. She's very distracting now.
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I want to revisit Sparkle's words from last patch, because it turns out when she says Sigonians are all liars and cheats, every single one, she means Aventurine and him alone since he's the only one now. I just think that specific line gained an interesting new light to it.
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I like that we’re getting more ambiguous and/or downright nasty characters, especially if they’re playable. Belobog was fun but every interpersonal conflict was resolved in nearly 30 seconds via a very lighthearted power of friendship dialogue, because once everyone was on the same page they all shared the same goals and were good people who would be pals. Penacony has more of an actual character-driven conflict (so far, I’m not done) where they have competing goals and are actively willing to gently caress each over other for it. and awful interesting characters are always more fun than generically good ones imo.
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Indecisive posted:basically this update was 90% adventure boy pity party and it was awful I respect your opinion but I can't imagine being this mad about a video game... have you tried smoking a bowl before playing or something
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MarquiseMindfang posted:I want to revisit Sparkle's words from last patch, because it turns out when she says Sigonians are all liars and cheats, every single one, she means Aventurine and him alone since he's the only one now. Sigonians still exist. Avgins don't. The stereotype is that the Avgins are clever thieves and she's applying it to all Sigonians. The Katicans are a clan of marauders and the ones who wiped out all the Avgin. The story is in the Sigonia planar ornament set, basically the IPC came and helped Sigonia form a government and that government united all the Clans except the Avgin and Katican and exiled them to the desert saying they have full autonomy (so the government doesn't have to intervene if anything happens). Also yes, Aventurine is space Kurapika.
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I dont like the roulette table on aventurine's jacket I do like when he makes it rain coins on all the enemies though
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Eej posted:Sigonians still exist. Avgins don't. The stereotype is that the Avgins are clever thieves and she's applying it to all Sigonians. The Katicans are a clan of marauders and the ones who wiped out all the Avgin. The story is in the Sigonia planar ornament set, basically the IPC came and helped Sigonia form a government and that government united all the Clans except the Avgin and Katican and exiled them to the desert saying they have full autonomy (so the government doesn't have to intervene if anything happens). That's not how I took the story The IPC convinced the Avgins they would support them against the Katicans and when that turned into a massacre used the whole thing as a reason to take over the planet and form the Sigonian government. Basically they tricked the Avgins into dying so that the IPC would have legal reason to gently caress up the Katicans and take over the planet. Something Aventurine is aware of about the IPC in fact.
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Meowywitch posted:I respect your opinion but I can't imagine being this mad about a video game... sorry that you're incapable of naming any emotion other than anger
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Indecisive posted:sorry that you're incapable of naming any emotion other than anger epic burn bro
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Lord_Magmar posted:That's not how I took the story The IPC convinced the Avgins they would support them against the Katicans and when that turned into a massacre used the whole thing as a reason to take over the planet and form the Sigonian government. Basically they tricked the Avgins into dying so that the IPC would have legal reason to gently caress up the Katicans and take over the planet. Something Aventurine is aware of about the IPC in fact. yeah there's like, nowhere in Sigonia to exile anyone to, it's a wasteland planet that's constantly getting turbofucked by lightning and meteor barrages. lorewise it was cool to get a look at a religious belief system that seems outside the universal aeonic one, no wonder Aventurine doesn't give a poo poo about the Fools or Preservation even beyond the whole genocide thing
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YES bread posted:yeah there's like, nowhere in Sigonia to exile anyone to, it's a wasteland planet that's constantly getting turbofucked by lightning and meteor barrages. lorewise it was cool to get a look at a religious belief system that seems outside the universal aeonic one, no wonder Aventurine doesn't give a poo poo about the Fools or Preservation even beyond the whole genocide thing I think the reason we don't see many other religions is that Aeons are real and regularly give people magical powers. They do seem to make a point of emphasizing that different groups might have very different names and impressions of the same Aeons, though. The ones we use most often are just the IPC ones.
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Indecisive posted:sorry that you're incapable of naming any emotion other than anger I don't know what you mean?
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Clarste posted:I think the reason we don't see many other religions is that Aeons are real and regularly give people magical powers. They do seem to make a point of emphasizing that different groups might have very different names and impressions of the same Aeons, though. The ones we use most often are just the IPC ones. Also for what it is worth the description of the Avgin's goddess (three eyed woman) somewhat matches what we know of Harmony to an extent (three headed/faced feminine figure). Which is why I suspect Aventurine might want to destroy Penaconey if he does in fact want to do so, he questions how valid his faith's goddess was if she let horrible things happen to the Avgin constantly.
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I think all factions should be introduced by the catcakes singing a mournful lullaby about how all factions - regardless of surface goodness and goals - worship uncaring gods and that their institutions grind characters down into small, sacrificial cogs to further the paths. Except Akivili because expanding public transport is good 
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Lord_Magmar posted:That's not how I took the story The IPC convinced the Avgins they would support them against the Katicans and when that turned into a massacre used the whole thing as a reason to take over the planet and form the Sigonian government. Basically they tricked the Avgins into dying so that the IPC would have legal reason to gently caress up the Katicans and take over the planet. Something Aventurine is aware of about the IPC in fact. https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Sigonia,_the_Unclaimed_Desolation The planar set description straight up says that the IPC set up the government and the Sigonians themselves decided to exile the undesirables though.
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Eej posted:https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Sigonia,_the_Unclaimed_Desolation Fair enough, I got something different from Aventurine's flashbacks and how they seemed to frame what had happened overall. But I hadn't yet read the full planar set stuff.
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padijun posted:If every single character outside the galaxy express is dishonest with you, there's no real emotional impact from their betrayal/reveal. There's not supposed to be in most cases. It's not about the fact there is more beneath the surface being a shock, it's about exploring what that is and what it means to the people involved. Like wow, the slimy corporate suit is more than he appears. That's not a shock. The point is exploring what his suicidal ideation means for his motivations and actions. How he's not just what he appears on the surface. Hell, this entire new event is about exploring the internal life of the "monsters" we've been fighting. Which is always....great. Thank you for reminding me I am murdering sentient beings with loves, hopes, and dreams. I feel so much better now! Thankfully it got me from e2 Gallagher to e4, so I forgive it.
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This last 3 pages explaining why Paimon exists
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Sorry if this is out of nowhere but since we're kinda talking about characters, what's the deal with Dr. Ratio? I don't understand him. From the earlier quests to this main story quest I don't really get why he does what he does.
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Something I just put together with Aventurine is that he doesn't really care about speed in a follow-up team. The more follow-ups, and the more the party is attacked, the more he follows up and refreshes his shield. It might not be wrong to give him defense boots, especially if you're giving him a crit damage chest for more damage on his follow-ups and ult.
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He does care about speed. He can only 3 get stacks per personal turn from follow up attacks.
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Clarste posted:He's basically a nice guy trying to help everyone. classic soft heart, sharp tongue type
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Zebia posted:Sorry if this is out of nowhere but since we're kinda talking about characters, what's the deal with Dr. Ratio? I don't understand him. From the earlier quests to this main story quest I don't really get why he does what he does. He's a narcissist who thinks everyone else should be as attractive, intelligent and capable as he is. So he is teaching them how to be more like himself, except he's a narcissist so he's a dick about it. He considers himself the perfect man, and that everyone should aspire to be like him. Thus Dr Veritas (Truth/Golden) Ratio.
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qbert posted:Is Adventurine morally worse than Topaz? Also, has Sparkle done anything bad yet? Impersonating Robin is more Chaotic Neutral. I dunno, I don't think you get to be a rank or two higher in the corporate ladder than the literal planetary debt collector without stepping on a whole lotta innocent lives, hopes, and dreams Clarste posted:He's basically a nice guy trying to help everyone. He very much reads as a "started out as an optimist, realized how stupid other people really are and how little [non-gendered ironically cutesy parental nickname goes here] Nous gives a poo poo about all his efforts, and now tries to help make other people be less stupid while complaining about the situation at literally every moment" type of dude to me
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Aventurine has definitely ruined people's lives, hopes and dreams. For example, he ruined the hopes and dreams of his master, the former Aventurine, by killing him with his own shackles.
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So what's a good light cone for Acheron if you don't have her/Kafka's LC or Good Night and Sleep Well? I'm in the process of building her and I realized that I don't have any LCs that would be any good for her. Any of the LCs from the shops or even a 3* worth looking at? Forgive me if someone answered this already, but I've been skipping past most of the thread since I only just started the new chapter tonight
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qbert posted:Anyone play the new event yet? I enjoyed it a lot more than the Critters poo poo and Siobhan is a very likable bartender. It's great-- I like the characters, and the minigame is fun. I spent extra time experimenting and making the drink colors look nice while fulfilling each request.
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Shinji2015 posted:So what's a good light cone for Acheron if you don't have her/Kafka's LC or Good Night and Sleep Well? I'm in the process of building her and I realized that I don't have any LCs that would be any good for her. Any of the LCs from the shops or even a 3* worth looking at? The Welt LC is technically in a shop, but well, not the most accessible. Past that your options are pretty bad. Prydwen suggests Fermata from the Forgotten Hall store, which has a damage buff if they're affected by shock or wind shear, so you could pick a dot character as one of her Nihility partners.
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