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Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

This is true even of Late Antiquity and the Early Middle Ages, people get confused about this all the time
it's true for most of human history unless you live in a poo poo-drinking plagued hellhole like england (which lol hasn't changed). iirc pre-colonialization indigenous north americas usually had a median age of teenage/adulthood-threshold survival of around 60 or more, and even instances close to 100, though these stats are always very fuzzy and modal. a lot of modern healthcare is specifically addressing problems arising solely out of contemporary modern society.


one of the funniest things is learning that the era of high child-birth related deaths were solely a victorian/industrializing thing because brits were poo poo-covered bog monsters and would stick their infested hands into vaginas to ""help"" with childbirth and giving them all terminal deadly infections. completely and wholly unnecessary but it did kill a shitload of people that wouldn't have otherwise died in past times. not that it was always a risk-free thing but was much safer in the centuries before that, and much safer in many other countries.

Xaris has issued a correction as of 04:01 on Apr 1, 2024

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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

SKULL.GIF posted:

Nah bro people died of old age and toothless at age 29. The modern liberal world is the best of all possible timelines.

well a huge number of people did die of diseases as young or middle-aged adults that are now trivial to treat or that we are immunized against from childhood, so there's that

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
everyone loving smoked of course they died of heart disease

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Xaris posted:

it's true for most of human history unless you live in a poo poo-drinking plagued hellhole like england (which lol hasn't changed). iirc pre-colonialization indigenous north americas usually had a median age of teenage/adulthood-threshold survival of around 60 or more, and even instances close to 100, though these stats are always very fuzzy and modal. a lot of modern healthcare is specifically addressing problems arising solely out of contemporary modern society.


one of the funniest things is learning that the era of high child-birth related deaths were solely a victorian/industrializing thing because brits were poo poo-covered bog monsters and would stick their infested hands into vaginas to ""help"" with childbirth and giving them all terminal deadly infections. completely and wholly unnecessary but it did kill a shitload of people that wouldn't have otherwise died in past times. not that it was always a risk-free thing but was much safer in the centuries before that, and much safer in many other countries.

yea! we don't need that polio vaccine!

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

ArmedZombie posted:

yea! we don't need that polio vaccine!

polio was not a very big deal before agricultural civilization, op

HazCat
May 4, 2009

Xaris posted:

it's true for most of human history unless you live in a poo poo-drinking plagued hellhole like england (which lol hasn't changed).

Excuse me, that's not very polite :colbert:

The poo poo they drink in England is full of cocaine now. That counts as a change.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

HazCat posted:

Excuse me, that's not very polite :colbert:

The poo poo they drink in England is full of cocaine now. That counts as a change.

They also drink eel slime in England :eng101:

HazCat
May 4, 2009

Biplane posted:

They also drink eel slime in England :eng101:

I know, but before we judge them for it, let's all remember that cocaine is a non-renewable resource and they should be applauded for their resourcefulness in reusing it.

Barrel Cactaur
Oct 6, 2021

Xaris posted:

it's true for most of human history unless you live in a poo poo-drinking plagued hellhole like england (which lol hasn't changed). iirc pre-colonialization indigenous north americas usually had a median age of teenage/adulthood-threshold survival of around 60 or more, and even instances close to 100, though these stats are always very fuzzy and modal. a lot of modern healthcare is specifically addressing problems arising solely out of contemporary modern society.


one of the funniest things is learning that the era of high child-birth related deaths were solely a victorian/industrializing thing because brits were poo poo-covered bog monsters and would stick their infested hands into vaginas to ""help"" with childbirth and giving them all terminal deadly infections. completely and wholly unnecessary but it did kill a shitload of people that wouldn't have otherwise died in past times. not that it was always a risk-free thing but was much safer in the centuries before that, and much safer in many other countries.

Hell island has always been a poo poo hole trying to make the rest of the world miserable stop whining and drink your warm beer.

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




the popes toes posted:

Matthew Parris says the quiet part out loud about covid and the markets: "Society should welcome the occasional plague."

The argument for it is that markets rebound so positively that it outweighs the unfortunate deaths, and that's not a bad thing.

as I understand, all the QE and emergency measures put in place as a result of covid were planned well in advance. ie the powers that be knew that capitalism was on the verge of a major crisis and they very much welcomed an excuse to print a shitload of money and kick the can down the road a bit.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Xaris posted:

it's true for most of human history unless you live in a poo poo-drinking plagued hellhole like england (which lol hasn't changed). iirc pre-colonialization indigenous north americas usually had a median age of teenage/adulthood-threshold survival of around 60 or more, and even instances close to 100, though these stats are always very fuzzy and modal. a lot of modern healthcare is specifically addressing problems arising solely out of contemporary modern society.


one of the funniest things is learning that the era of high child-birth related deaths were solely a victorian/industrializing thing because brits were poo poo-covered bog monsters and would stick their infested hands into vaginas to ""help"" with childbirth and giving them all terminal deadly infections. completely and wholly unnecessary but it did kill a shitload of people that wouldn't have otherwise died in past times. not that it was always a risk-free thing but was much safer in the centuries before that, and much safer in many other countries.

Didn't that lead to germ theory

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Rated PG-34 posted:

as I understand, all the QE and emergency measures put in place as a result of covid were planned well in advance. ie the powers that be knew that capitalism was on the verge of a major crisis and they very much welcomed an excuse to print a shitload of money and kick the can down the road a bit.

IIRC QE was started in like 2010 and never turned off until recently.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
the economy broke like 6 weeks before the first case of Covid was even contracted with the q3 tax debacle

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Raskolnikov38 posted:

the economy broke like 6 weeks before the first case of Covid was even contracted with the q3 tax debacle

also remember when the Feds were basically dumping like 400 billion into the overnight repo market? yeah there were significant cracks happening that we were plastering over and hoped we could sell the house before anyone noticed

they very vaguely keynesian response to covid and some socioeconomic shifts with covid probably papered over and delayed an impending recession that was going to happen without any viruses

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
socrates and confucius were hella old. socrates woulda lived a lot longer too if he'd just bailed like his greased up twinks asked him to. dumbass

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
i vape constantly and smoked a pack a day for 15 yrs so im going to Die very easily :discourse:

Sherbert Hoover
Dec 12, 2019

Working hard, thank you!

Smythe posted:

i vape constantly and smoked a pack a day for 15 yrs so im going to Die very easily :discourse:

vaping constantly after smoking a pack a day for 15 years is fine, probably :ohdear:

post COVID
Mar 5, 2007

free college, free healthcare, free Shmurda


i ❤️ antibiotics

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




sullat posted:

IIRC QE was started in like 2010 and never turned off until recently.

sure but the pandemic gave them cover to go beyond QE and directly inject absolutely incredible amounts of money into private and public entities.

they knew the system was on shaky ground in 2019 if you recall the repo market crisis in September

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Smythe posted:

i vape constantly and smoked a pack a day for 15 yrs so im going to Die very easily :discourse:

owned

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Smythe posted:

i vape constantly and smoked a pack a day for 15 yrs so im going to Die very easily :discourse:
skill issue

but also same

maxwellhill
Jan 5, 2022

Shipon posted:

even china gave up on it because it turns out it was basically solved by vaccination. only goons are clinging onto this because they're under the false impression that Things Might Change if only we hunker down in our apartments even more. freddie deboer was completely right about this lol

you do realize that the pandemic is the most heavily studied concept in the history of medicine, and that you can see the findings in just a couple clicks in case you ever don't want to sound like an idiot denying a mass casualty event, don't you

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

Smythe posted:

i vape constantly and smoked a pack a day for 15 yrs so im going to Die very easily :discourse:

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

Sherbert Hoover posted:

vaping constantly after smoking a pack a day for 15 years is fine, probably :ohdear:

should have just kept smoking tbh

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Shipon posted:

china did though, and it wrecked the entire world economy through massive supply-chain induced inflation

I like the alternate history this implies where China didn't lock down and everyone goes to work like normal [as the USA did] and the supply-chain isn't affected because ???

Ted Wassanasong
Apr 8, 2020

gradenko_2000 posted:

I like the alternate history this implies where China didn't lock down and everyone goes to work like normal [as the USA did] and the supply-chain isn't affected because ???

Covid is just the flu...

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
shipon simply has 2020 PTSD from all the overpaid wfh computer touchers working for twitter or facebook who were ordering doordash+instacart everyday scolding all the Target or starbucks or their gig app worker for going into work or not covering their nose or whatever

not endorsing his post, hes my sd bud and he's wrong. but its coming from a place of trauma and thus making him post badly about the matter

Skaffen-Amtiskaw
Jun 24, 2023

Mustached Demon posted:

Didn't that lead to germ theory

Yes.

Fun fact, the descendant of Bazalgette returned to a life of dealing with poo poo, only instead of removing it, ended up creating more by heading up Endemol and creating ig Brother and its ilk.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

the economy broke like 6 weeks before the first case of Covid was even contracted with the q3 tax debacle

More or less. I recall reading stuff out of Davos or WEF or IMF reports about how things were slightly hosed and the wheels were coming off. This fed into the manufactured narrative of COVID being an escaped bioweapon etc.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://x.com/thedailybeast/status/1774745112569852096?s=20

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
just drop the oxygen mask and keep on truckin

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
if it's Boeing, the poo poo be overflowing

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

gradenko_2000 posted:

if it's Boeing, the poo poo be overfloeing

Cheesus
Oct 17, 2002

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.
Yam Slacker

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Nursing homes didn't cost that much in the era of the $1.00 circumcision though
They also weren't very good.

Witnessing the care their parents received in the 1950s, all four of my grandparents insisted they die at their own homes, their children's homes, or barring those options, the streets than a nursing home.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
it's good boomers won't have any money to leave their kids because they also get to be treated better while they're old and useless than their parents did

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012

Smythe posted:

i vape constantly and smoked a pack a day for 15 yrs

This will stunt your growth.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

Smythe posted:

i vape constantly and smoked a pack a day for 15 yrs so im going to Die very easily :discourse:

same

how come the tobacco companies haven't gotten smoking bans overturned yet? Seems a lot like the gambling thing

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


AARD VARKMAN posted:

same

how come the tobacco companies haven't gotten smoking bans overturned yet? Seems a lot like the gambling thing

That’s absolutely coming, and people who don’t want to put up with smoke constantly will be told to stay home if they’re scared of a little bit of smoke (it’s from plants and it’s natural)

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Xaris posted:

it's true for most of human history unless you live in a poo poo-drinking plagued hellhole like england (which lol hasn't changed). iirc pre-colonialization indigenous north americas usually had a median age of teenage/adulthood-threshold survival of around 60 or more, and even instances close to 100, though these stats are always very fuzzy and modal. a lot of modern healthcare is specifically addressing problems arising solely out of contemporary modern society.


one of the funniest things is learning that the era of high child-birth related deaths were solely a victorian/industrializing thing because brits were poo poo-covered bog monsters and would stick their infested hands into vaginas to ""help"" with childbirth and giving them all terminal deadly infections. completely and wholly unnecessary but it did kill a shitload of people that wouldn't have otherwise died in past times. not that it was always a risk-free thing but was much safer in the centuries before that, and much safer in many other countries.

the kept morgues right next to surgical wings in hopsitals so the surgeons could go in and out of the morgue between surgeries to work on cadavers

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
The only reason smoking bans haven’t been overturned yet is because they’ve existed long enough that the vast majority of people don’t smoke and hate having to be put upon by the smell of smokers. But it’s 100% gonna go away for bars and poo poo sooner than later.

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Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

shrike82 posted:

lol, quaint to think that goons were stockpiling lentils thinking that food riots were imminent.

quaintative analysis

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