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itry posted:Imagine the amount of good games you could've bought for that. Could have bought a freaking nes mini instead
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credburn posted:No game should have a "respec" option, or the ability to move skill points around. counterpoint: having your character be forever subpar because you misclicked is pretty unfun
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sirtommygunn posted:Isn't this thread for unpopular opinions rather than facts? I only post facts
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fridge corn posted:Blizzard peaked with og starcraft everything else was downhill from there Starcraft 1 is a significantly worse game than starcraft 2 and people who still go on about brood war are way way more broken than moba players (60 days clear today wooo)
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credburn posted:No game should have a "respec" option, or the ability to move skill points around. OK games should only have a single save so you can't make a save before leveling up and reloading.
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Vic posted:OK games should only have a single save so you can't make a save before leveling up and reloading. Yes! All games, not just OK games.
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Khanstant posted:But what if the people who cannot abide by a perceived insignificant mistake? We got folks out here restarting games because they don't like the cheek shadows they picked out for character and you wanna make em start over because they picked up the useless Flower Sniffing perk? solution: make a game where all the perks are equally useless
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Starcraft 1 is a significantly worse game than starcraft 2 and people who still go on about brood war are way way more broken than moba players Yeah no Blizzard managed to gently caress that up by releasing SC2 without custom maps. LOL.
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They also took about 7 years to implement 3 races having unique mmr but I'll forgive them all transgressions because stormgate is gonna fail hard and we probably won't see another rts game until keyboards and mice are obsolete
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Starcraft 1 is a significantly worse game than starcraft 2 and people who still go on about brood war are way way more broken than moba players Like idk about the actual game I played primarily use map settings games like zergling madness or whatever weird poo poo was going on and that sort of stuff in sc2 was not nearly as cool or exciting as it was in sc1
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I used to prefer sc2, but after enough time had passed I came to my senses. A lot of brood war's flaws made it a more fun multiplayer game. As for the single player, some of the missions in sc2 are cool but the writing is just so insanely incredibly bad and stupid. I cringed to death somewhere half way through heart of the swarm.
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DontMockMySmock posted:counterpoint: having your character be forever subpar because you misclicked is pretty unfun skill issue
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Duck and Cover posted:Yeah no Blizzard managed to gently caress that up by releasing SC2 without custom maps. LOL. imo this was the beginning of the end for blizzard as a well-respected development studio, pretty much everything they did after that point just further tanked their reputation. Based on the timing I tend to believe that Activision exerted too much control and in the process ruined Blizzard's ability to make good games, starting with starcraft 2. They completely kneecapped the custom map scene and in the process destroyed the main thing that kept OG Starcraft popular a decade after its release. Hearthstone was developed by what was basically an indie development team operating independently from the rest of the organization; they still had enough development talent to spin gold when the executives went hands off, but the game's financial success meant that the executives just couldn't help but heavily involve themselves so that got hosed up too. The irony is that starcraft 2's co-op mode, which was free and came out years after the last expansion, is basically another indie effort of love like hearthstone: a small development team created a bunch of custom maps with fun new abilities, and according to blizzard it was by far their most popular multiplayer mode and caused a big uptick in players returning to the game. They could have had all of this for free if they'd just let the custom map scene happen again.
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Game Dev companies should be forced to change their names once they hit an original employee turnover rate of 75%
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they named one of the Starcraft 2 releases "wings of liberty" and people still take them seriously lolcredburn posted:No game should have a "respec" option, or the ability to move skill points around. you're a monster
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The impression I got was the wc3 map editor was the sweet spot of powerful yet easy to use. The star craft 2 one let you upload images to create a UI and change the camera angle and stuff, but it was just too complicated to be fun. Plus I sorta think the brightly colored fantasy graphics of wc3 lent themselves to goofy custom games more than the grungy sci fi. It kind of reminds me of the mod scene of halflife vs halflife 2. You could do more with the later game but the magic just wasn't there.
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itry posted:Imagine the amount of good games you could've bought for that. That could have been, like, 50 pulls in an anime jpeg gacha
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MSPain posted:It kind of reminds me of the mod scene of halflife vs halflife 2. You could do more with the later game but the magic just wasn't there. Could that be more that you just aged out of the scene? HL2 had numerous insanely popular mods that went on to become their own games, just like HL1. Garry's Mod alone has had a ludicrous amount of interesting content over the years
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Co op starcraft 2 would have been a real winner if playing co-op rts games with random strangers had any appeal and if it didn't appeal to me then I don't have a clue who it clicked for
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QuarkJets posted:The irony is that starcraft 2's co-op mode, which was free and came out years after the last expansion, is basically another indie effort of love like hearthstone: a small development team created a bunch of custom maps with fun new abilities, and according to blizzard it was by far their most popular multiplayer mode and caused a big uptick in players returning to the game. They could have had all of this for free if they'd just let the custom map scene happen again. Not to nitpick you Quark but the coop missions came out about a year before the last expansion pack. (Late 2015 -> November 2016) Not to defend their release schedule, it was badly handled
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The Moon Monster posted:That could have been, like, 50 pulls in an anime jpeg gacha Or, like, 5 copies of Orc Massage.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Not to nitpick you Quark but the coop missions came out about a year before the last expansion pack. (Late 2015 -> November 2016) Looking up the details, Legacy of the Void came out in November 2015 - apparently the mode released with the last expansion pack, but most of the maps and interesting commanders came along later
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The best thing to do in starcraft was to play 2v2 matches with your buddy on the PC next you but on the other team and then switch your allegiances when you attack the other guys base and your mate moves to help "defend" his ally lol
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I played Warcraft 3 multiplayer very casually and it was fun but I had a strict policy, the second you lay into me like an rear end in a top hat (constructive criticism was fine) I would shift my strategy into building lumber mills and only lumber mills
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QuarkJets posted:Looking up the details, Legacy of the Void came out in November 2015 - apparently the mode released with the last expansion pack, but most of the maps and interesting commanders came along later Oh poo poo you are right I would have sworn legacy came out as I was starting a new job but looking at November 2016 releases I appear to have replaced all my memories of final fantasy 15 with starcraft memories lmao
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found my old "A Skyrealms of Jorune Adventure: ALIEN LOGIC" disc, time to boot up DOSBox and find out just how rose-tinted those ol' glasses are edit: and the scratch on the CD made it install bad, now it's gonna be a big ol' ordeal. Evidently it is not an easy game to get running, which I remember being the case even back in the day.  SSIi loved this game though MrQwerty fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Mar 31, 2024 |
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QuarkJets posted:Could that be more that you just aged out of the scene? HL2 had numerous insanely popular mods that went on to become their own games, just like HL1. Garry's Mod alone has had a ludicrous amount of interesting content over the years Really? I know GM was big but I can't think of a single other hl2 mod that was any good. Fake edit: how could I forget E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy? That was a great mental illness simulator
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Broodwar was better than StarCraft tho
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Khanstant posted:Broodwar was better than StarCraft tho everyone who says "starcraft" means starcraft broodwar
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Blizzard was hosed the moment world of warcraft dropped and started making insane amounts of money. But also a bunch of Blizzard nostalgia flows from the fact that they employed really good AV artists at the time when games were going through puberty.
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Blizzard games aren't very good, but their UIs define genres
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Has Blizzard every brought Blackthorne into any of their other games? Is there Blackthorne lore?
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Fur20 posted:solution: make a game where all the perks are equally useless I love the RPG boss in Kirby Super Star who when you defeat it you level up which increases your Puffiness, Friendship, and Roundness stats.
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Blizzard just need to stop putting glowing swirls on stuff. There's probably other things they can stop but my minds a blank.
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Vic posted:Blizzard was hosed the moment world of warcraft dropped and started making insane amounts of money. Videogames were hosed that moment. That's when all the investors turned their heads because they learned some suckers will pay full price for a game and then keep paying monthly on top and hmm wonder what else they'll pay for.
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Khanstant posted:Videogames were hosed that moment. That's when all the investors turned their heads because they learned some suckers will pay full price for a game and then keep paying monthly on top and hmm wonder what else they'll pay for. There was also a solid 3-5 years where every single game cribbed the WoW look.
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MrQwerty posted:found my old "A Skyrealms of Jorune Adventure: ALIEN LOGIC" disc, time to boot up DOSBox and find out just how rose-tinted those ol' glasses are That game was a bit of a mess, but because they put it into every collection I think I have three copies.
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MSPain posted:The impression I got was the wc3 map editor was the sweet spot of powerful yet easy to use. The star craft 2 one let you upload images to create a UI and change the camera angle and stuff, but it was just too complicated to be fun. This was my experience. The sc1 editor was really easy to use and the wc3 editor was more difficult but still easy enough so you had a ton of random yet fun custom maps because anyone could try. Literally invented tower defense and mobas. Sc2 editor was much more powerful but also way more difficult to use/learn plus it wasn't colorful or bright at all so even if you did make a custom game it just wasn't fun and didn't look appealing. Also brood war is so fun to watch at a high level, that game pretty much created what is modern day esports. Literal 13 year old Koreans completely dominating a game was so crazy, too. UC Berkeley even had a professor teach a competitve starcraft class. sc2 on the other hand is so boring in comparison. Nevermind the actual game itself being kinda bad, too.
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