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people keep saying "custom games" but all i hear is "tower defense "
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# ? Apr 1, 2024 19:10 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 07:55 |
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I still watch pro brood war in the year 2024 even though I havent fired up starcraft in a decade
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# ? Apr 1, 2024 19:23 |
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getting moderately good at StarCraft was rewarding and I wouldn't unspend those hours practicing, but I would not liken the experience to playing video games
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# ? Apr 1, 2024 19:32 |
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We were making what was effectively "tower defense" games as far back as Warcraft II (custom maps designed to be filled with towers while waves of enemies rushed through a maze), and we DEFINITELY were doing it in Starcraft (we called them Starship Troopers maps or Bunker Defense maps, I think) I hate when I hear people say tower defense came from Warcraft 3. You're like a full seven years off, you dang kids.
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# ? Apr 1, 2024 19:32 |
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Khanstant posted:Videogames were hosed that moment. That's when all the investors turned their heads because they learned some suckers will pay full price for a game and then keep paying monthly on top and hmm wonder what else they'll pay for. Everquest had already done that, but it was only very successful whereas people blew the fuckin' doors off of Blizzard HQ with how much money got dumped into World of Warcraft. I will forever be bitter that Asheron's Call, the MMO that basically released a free expansion every month and sometimes had devs playing as boss characters showing up in town to rain meteors on people, wound up not being as successful as Everquest or WOW.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 06:41 |
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EverQuest owned
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 06:50 |
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Vampire Panties posted:There was also a solid 3-5 years where every single game cribbed the WoW look. It's still happening. The WoW look is the default art style for a ridiculous number of mobile games.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 07:54 |
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Fallout 4 would have been better if you got to Speak as Shroud everywhere. In the Institute, to Eldet Maxson, to the Railroad... just Speak as Shroud all day every day
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 08:03 |
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The WoW look is probably the best art style from games in the past 20 years gently caress guys don't make me play wow again, i only just bought diablo 2 remastered.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 10:04 |
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QuarkJets posted:Everquest had already done that, but it was only very successful whereas people blew the fuckin' doors off of Blizzard HQ with how much money got dumped into World of Warcraft. Asherons Call deserved better. There still hasnt been anything like it.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 11:09 |
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JollyBoyJohn posted:The WoW look is probably the best art style from games in the past 20 years Not gonna lie when I was 15 the game looked amazing in the sense that it was a creative way of having low (even for the time) polycount models look good. It being copied by others wasn't Blizzard's fault. But Blizzard then made this art style inform all their games from then on. As a result all blizzard games and all other games copying that style made it into a generic unexciting ubiquitous thing.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 12:17 |
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Starcraft 2 is a far better designed game than broodwar but RTS games were kind of old hat by that point. Mobas didn't kill RTS games, Total War did, they kinda took out the casual audience who's there to watch a bunch of people go and see zillions of people on screen fighting.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 14:21 |
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fridge corn posted:EverQuest owned every other mmo is lame in comparison to everquest. EQ is the scariest game I've ever played.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 14:43 |
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Random Stranger posted:That game was a bit of a mess, but because they put it into every collection I think I have three copies. It was a mess but it was really cool and really experimental, the art direction was great and the setting is pretty neat. My copy has the Jorune compendium or whatever on it, but it only runs in Win95. I also have not gotten it running, yet, across multiple disc images and the disc in DOSBox. A bit of a mess in-game, a total loving mess as far as software is concerned. I do remember I spent about a month trying to get it to work on our old computer before it magically worked one day and then stopped working like 3 months later when my dad installed something, so this is a very accurate recreation of my now poo poo-tinted glasses.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 14:45 |
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Cyberpunk 2077 2.0 + Phantom Liberty is one of the best games ever made. Turbo Overkill does what DOOM Eternal was aiming for but far better. A game console is always going to be better value for money than a gaming PC no matter how much members of the so called “PCMR” try and claim otherwise. Thank you and god bless.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 16:07 |
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Panzeh posted:Starcraft 2 is a far better designed game than broodwar but RTS games were kind of old hat by that point. I'd say MOBAs, esports RTSes, and total war each ripped the target RTS audience apart enough that each of them are "dead" industries with zero room for growth. Starcraft 2 is definitively the best RTS as we normally conceive of them but gently caress playing that game, I'd rather play a game that's fun. I love the Total war games and would never play a MOBA game. But for a brief time, all 3 of those games were contained within the same box: warcraft 3.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 16:14 |
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RTS games died when they couldn't make cut scenes with Kane in them anymore.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 16:23 |
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My biggest complaint against RTSs is they've all devolved into APM clickfests or rock-paper-scissor unit matchups. I'm really interested in the new Planetary Annihilation game because it seems like designing a better economy will have direct benefits in game.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 16:26 |
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The entire Total War series sucks rear end with the exception of the Warhammer ones, they barely get a pass because they have skeletons
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 16:33 |
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Caesar Saladin posted:every other mmo is lame in comparison to everquest. EQ is the scariest game I've ever played. Sneaking through kithicor forest at night...
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 16:33 |
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QuarkJets posted:The entire Total War series sucks rear end with the exception of the Warhammer ones, they barely get a pass because they have skeletons Yeah, who could argue otherwise
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 16:36 |
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I seriously don't understand why people play skeletonless videogames.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 16:42 |
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The total war games piqued with the shogun fmvs
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 17:05 |
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been playing some Dragon Quest 11 and it's fun, I just beat Jarvis, don't think I'm very far in at all, but I'm wondering, does it get substantially harder? Cuz so far this has been a breeze. Most of the enemies run from me, and I haven't done any grinding or anything. Even the puzzles so far are super simple "we need to do this, the solution is 10 steps away, if it's a hard puzzle the answer may be around a corner" type stuff. Also, does the requisite pedobait "I look like I'm 8 but I'm actually 18" girl ever grow up, or will I have that creepy poo poo hanging over my head the whole game?
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 17:07 |
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:been playing some Dragon Quest 11 and it's fun, I just beat Jarvis, don't think I'm very far in at all, but I'm wondering, does it get substantially harder? Cuz so far this has been a breeze. Most of the enemies run from me, and I haven't done any grinding or anything. Even the puzzles so far are super simple "we need to do this, the solution is 10 steps away, if it's a hard puzzle the answer may be around a corner" type stuff. The main game difficulty peaks with Dora In Grey who is about 4 bosses or so away from where you are. There is a shitload of optional content that is a significant step up, mind you. They will do stuff with the child girl character that moderately interesting and not in some perv way.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 17:19 |
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As soon as it was revealed one of the girls is actually an adult in a child's body, I was waiting for the pervy shoe to drop but it never happens
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 17:36 |
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Disco Pope posted:I seriously don't understand why people play skeletonless videogames.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 19:46 |
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I quit DQ11 when I got to a town that was a long straight line with multiple zone transitions and the quest was to run back and forth from end to end like ten times. gently caress OFF.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 20:40 |
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Unpopular videogame opinion video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w70Xc9CStoE
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 21:49 |
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Caesar Saladin posted:every other mmo is lame in comparison to everquest. EQ is the scariest game I've ever played. They changed the text from bright red You died! You lost a level! because too many people were spazzing out and they found red is a triggering colour. Goddamn that game ruled.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 22:02 |
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Vic posted:Unpopular videogame opinion video: I don't think he has much of a case for forcing basic decency from game publishers, but I wish him the best of luck because because we'll all be better off if it works.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 22:14 |
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I tried Total War a few times and it just takes so long for anything at all to happen. I don't see the appeal unless you really want to feel like an actual general in ancient Egypt or China or the Hanseatic league or whatever the hell.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 22:24 |
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The Moon Monster posted:I tried Total War a few times and it just takes so long for anything at all to happen. I don't see the appeal unless you really want to feel like an actual general in ancient Egypt or China or the Hanseatic league or whatever the hell. *sacks Carthage 10 turns in* GAME IS SO loving SLOW *takes over half of Europe with your starter army* JESUS CHRIST WON'T SOMETHING HAPPEN Total War games are just RTS games with a very light 4X-style meta layer. If you play Dawn of War: Dark Crusade, it's the same vibe. You're not supposed to give a gently caress about the meta layer, but it does help you frame the actual game which is an RTS. The good Total War games even have monsters and magic-- it rules. Historical Total War games are a hard sell. jokes fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Apr 2, 2024 |
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Random Stranger posted:I don't think he has much of a case for forcing basic decency from game publishers, but I wish him the best of luck because because we'll all be better off if it works. I think there's plenty a case in this, but there's no big party being affected. He's asking videogamers to sign stuff, that's like twice the amount of effort than voting with wallet. And also people are ambivalent because we're kinda used to paying for subscriptions, but e.g. movies don't stop working once you buy them. The online service might cease to exist but that's a different thing.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 22:44 |
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jokes posted:*sacks Carthage 10 turns in* You're neglecting to mention that one turn takes an eon if a battle happens, and that the battles are pretty slow and boring.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 22:53 |
Bring back Wintermaul
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 23:02 |
So that I can play someone's hacky edit called Pokemaul where black shadowed illidans are a whole tower tribe.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 23:03 |
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Khanstant posted:Bring back Wintermaul Now we're talking that was the best. I hated that the pathing always broke down near the end, but man that was a good game.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 23:14 |
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Vic posted:Unpopular videogame opinion video: I just want to say, this guy makes some of the only videos I can watch on YouTube because he is willing to allow there to be a second of dead air and it's not.full.of.sudden.cuts.every.second.god.dammit. edit: though he still has a few in this video but they're not egregious.
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jokes posted:Now we're talking that was the best. I hated that the pathing always broke down near the end, but man that was a good game. Getting mad at the broken endgame is just your reward for not having too many noobs or leavers. I googled internal to see if somebody made a standalone or something of it (no), but the first videos were some random YouTuber and he was a frustrating noob. He would be responding to his chat while people in game are like hey I sent u gold for gas can u build, hey can u build with multiple ppl being like hey build the thing! He just ignored and blew the tower on himself. Hurt to watch.
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