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Neo Rasa posted:The October 7th attack interrupted this impending attempt for Saudi Arabia and Israel to normalize relations. And while many seem like that's out of the question now Biden is still going for it. Wouldn't say it's totally out of the question, because saudi arabia is a mercenary as it comes. Could give a poo poo about palestine, if there's profit offered, they'll probably just wait to see if things die down from pariah state poo poo
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Main Paineframe posted:Not particularly, no. All of this is true, but "at this point in history" as DeliciousPatriotism said? Biden literally just greenlighted giving them another $18 billion in air power. A few days ago we authorized sending them 1,000+ MK84s. That's in addition to aid we already give Israel which is contingent on X percentage of it being spent to purchase weapons from the US. I see this said a lot that Israel's already this major force to be reckoned with on its own, but for a country with that status we seem to give them a poo poo ton of hardware and money constantly. But it doesn't really matter that we do that since Israel is so incredibly powerful and wealthy completely on its own. Sounds like we should stop providing them with any aid or weaponry then since they don't need it? Like I'm not sure what the point of your post is here.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 16:47 |
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In internal USCE news: the Florida Supreme Court made two decisions yesterday that could have major repercussions for both sides. They allowed Florida's current abortion laws to stand, meaning that it is banned after six weeks with the three usual exceptions. But they also allowed a proposition to go onto the ballot that would undo that law and add abortion protection to the state constitution.quote:In its ruling Monday, the court’s justices wrote in a majority opinion, “Consistent with longstanding principles of judicial deference to legislative enactments, we conclude there is no basis under the Privacy Clause to invalidate” the 15-week statute. quote:Despite its ideological makeup, the conservative court signaled during opening arguments last month that it as likely to let the amendment appear. Sucks for unexpectedly pregnant people from now to November, but possibly less sucky for them after, especially if the proposition drives Democrat turnout to the point that the state goes blue in the presidential election. We now return you to the thread's real topic: getting probated for trying to discuss I/P
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People will just vote yes on abortions, no on Biden.
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haveblue posted:We now return you to the thread's real topic: getting probated for trying to discuss I/P I believe the probes are for discussing the moderation around I/P and going out of thread scope. Also, we seem to have gotten a field of tugs, pulls, blows, and poles.
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koolkal posted:People will just vote yes on abortions, no on Biden. There are few things as absurdly frustrating as the irrational voter. I can't imagine what it's like to run into them every day as part of a campaign.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 16:57 |
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Has anyone suggested a two thread solution?
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 17:08 |
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mawarannahr posted:Could you address the part where the OP said at this point in history and not up to the six day war? I focused on the time period before the Six Day War because that was the time period when Israel actually needed military assistance to do things. Israel does not need American military assistance anymore. It certainly likes to have that assistance, but its position is nowhere near being precarious enough to actually need it. If we're going to talk about whose "fault" the Israel/Palestine conflict is, it's obvious to point the finger at the countries that actually placed Israel in a militarily dominant position in the region in the first place, not at the countries who make it slightly cheaper for Israel to maintain that position. If you're going to pin the "fault" on anyone besides the Israelis themselves, the top culprits would be the countries the countries that put Israel in a position of military superiority over Palestinians, the countries that put Israel in a position of military superiority over its neighbors, and the countries that made Israel the first and only nuclear-armed state in the whole region. At this point in history, Israel would be perfectly capable of oppressing Palestine while simultaneously keeping its neighbors in check all on its own, without any actual need for American assistance. The fault here, first and foremost, is theirs. And while America certainly bears moral responsibility for the decades we've spent backing Israel, it's not as if Israel would be unable or unwilling to carry out the current escalation without American support.
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In addition to the abortion initiative, the Florida Supreme also approved a Recreational Marijuana ballot initiative. I'm not saying Florida is in play for democrats, but this is a double-whammy that should have an effect on turnout.
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Main Paineframe posted:I focused on the time period before the Six Day War because that was the time period when Israel actually needed military assistance to do things. Israel does not need American military assistance anymore. It certainly likes to have that assistance, but its position is nowhere near being precarious enough to actually need it. Department Press Briefing – April 1, 2024 - United States Department of State www.state.gov - Mon, 01 Apr 2024 posted:QUESTION: Okay, two final things. This is about last – this is from last week about these authorizations of these bombs to Israel. They have been approved a long time ago by Congress, but it looks like the State Department has decided to do the transfers last week, the week before. Why was that decision taken, like, recently? mawarannahr fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Apr 2, 2024 |
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Aztec Galactus posted:In addition to the abortion initiative, the Florida Supreme also approved a Recreational Marijuana ballot initiative. I'm not saying Florida is in play for democrats, but this is a double-whammy that should have an effect on turnout. Biden is anti-marijuana
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RealityWarCriminal posted:Biden is anti-marijuana
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RealityWarCriminal posted:Biden is anti-marijuana There are a lot of voters who were otherwise not going to vote, whether it be apathy toward Biden or some other reason, who will now be going out to vote because one of the issues that they care about is now something they can directly affect. It has nothing to do with Biden himself, but he is likely to benefit from it
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Now I can vote yes on weed, yes on abortions, no on Biden.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 17:47 |
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Biden may be anti-marijuana but his White House likes winning. I've been expecting his DEA to reschedule it once we've entered The Goldfish Zone (voters' six month memory span before an election, i.e., May - November) for a while now and it feels like all the right things have been moved into place to make that happen as well.
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Beast Pussy posted:Has anyone suggested a two thread solution?
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I feel like firing all the white house staffers who admitted to marijuana use is a pretty big indicator that the Biden admin isn't particularly friendly to marijuana despite the extremely mild and gentle push to maybe start thinking about reclassification someday This is a public declaration for Biden to prove me wrong and make me look like a fool, please do it Mr president
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Combed Thunderclap posted:Biden may be anti-marijuana but his White House likes winning. Yeah I'm expecting the same. Ditto student loan forgiveness.
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For some irrelevant news, RFK Jr. is arguing that Biden's a bigger threat to democracy than Trump. This appears to be him being Big Mad about his Instagram account getting suspended for spreading COVID misinfo, and the government communicating with social media companies about disinformation. He doesn't deny January 6, he just says this is worse. Can the media stop covering this loser, please? Give it to a real candidate like Vermin Supreme.
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Professor Beetus posted:I feel like firing all the white house staffers who admitted to marijuana use is a pretty big indicator that the Biden admin isn't particularly friendly to marijuana despite the extremely mild and gentle push to maybe start thinking about reclassification someday Is this related to some March 19, 2021 events or is there something more recent? An AP article from the time mentions five staffers getting fired and also states, "The marijuana policy has become less stringent under the Biden administration, allowing for up to 15 past uses in a year among White House staffers." Marijuana is still against federal law, even the union reps have said that there isn't much they can do if someone tests positive, including for medical usage. This sounds like a situation where violating federal law but wanting to work at the White House is a security risk, regardless of how accepted or not usage is.
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RealityWarCriminal posted:Biden is anti-marijuana He may be, but the average voter who is pro-marijuana is more likely to vote for him than for Trump... then again Florida probably has a ton of the Joe Rogan breed of chud
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Is Schumer still honoring the blue slip, even after McConnell rammed through every judge with a pulse?
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Unless Biden comes out and announces rescheduling it wearing big novelty pot leaf Mardi Gras beads with Snoop next to him at the podium, voters aren’t really gonna make that connection by and large. Weed legalization is mostly a state/local experience so he’s gotta figure out a way to drive policy at those levels—maybe look to get rid of weed enforcement money from law enforcement grants, to cut down on actual enforcement on the ground even if a state hasn’t legalized.
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# ? Apr 2, 2024 18:29 |
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Biden has only directed HHS to look at rescheduling marijuana, which led to HHS recommending it be Schedule III instead of Schedule I. The Biden administration hasn't acted on that recommendation. Him completely decriminalizing it is a fantasy; he's a drug warrior from way back in the day who wrote the 1994 crime bill. His VP is a loving former prosecutor. Obviously this and student loan forgiveness would be huge winners for him and probably boost his chances of re-election by a ton, but he's not going to do either of those things. PostNouveau fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Apr 2, 2024 |
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Federal legalization would make business in legal states a lot easier because it will eliminate a lot of weird hoops to jump through and wholly open it up to the financial industry e: why would he not do another round of loan forgiveness after doing more than one already
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https://twitter.com/prem_thakker/status/1775195325612847553?s=46 Has there ever been 100% approval for anything among a demographic like this before? I hope that this would influence the decisions Biden makes regarding Israel but I’m not gonna hold my breath that Genocide Joe will suddenly reverse course due to polling. 25% is a pretty substantial number and his winning of the state was pretty small.
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theCalamity posted:https://twitter.com/prem_thakker/status/1775195325612847553?s=46 Any poll that has anyone agreeing 100% on an issue, is likely horseshit even if I agree with what they are saying.
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PostNouveau posted:Biden has only directed HHS to look at rescheduling marijuana, which led to HHS recommending it be Schedule III instead of Schedule I. The Biden administration hasn't acted on that recommendation. Him completely decriminalizing it is a fantasy; he's a drug warrior from way back in the day who wrote the 1994 crime bill. His VP is a loving former prosecutor. I do understand that thirty years ago he co-authored a very bad bill, but there is evidence from about thirty years more recently that his administration may have softened/reversed that stance. There is plenty of time for him to do a double-switch and adopt Duterte's drug policy in time for the general election, but I do not get the feeling that is where the administration is headed. At worst the Biden Administration seems legalization-curious.
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haveblue posted:Federal legalization would make business in legal states a lot easier because it will eliminate a lot of weird hoops to jump through and wholly open it up to the financial industry He hasn't done any rounds of loan forgiveness. His team trots out press releases every month about the number of loans forgiven, but they're all from the George W. Bush-era Pay-as-You-Earn program, that is contractually obligated to forgive loans if payments are made for 25 years, or the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program (10 years). It's dumb for him to claim that's him forgiving loans. It's George W. Bush forgiving loans if it's anyone. The mechanism they tried to use to forgive $10,000 for each borrower was so goddamn stupid (covid emergency) that the Supreme Court shot it down, and his administration hasn't lifted a finger to try another mechanism. Bernie Sanders had an executive order ready to go for complete forgiveness Day 1 of his administration. The loans are federalized and it is clearly in the power of the president to wipe them out. Biden's not gonna do it. He doesn't want to. It's delusional to think he will based on what has transpired so far. Edge & Christian posted:The HHS recommendation in February was to the DEA, who hasn't made any statements yet. It's not Biden/the White House "not acting" on it as of yet, and again, less than a month ago Biden (and/or his speechwriters) opted to throw a line into his State of the Union address about how no one should be jailed or have a criminal record for marijuana use or possession. Who controls the DEA? Is this another independent branch of the government? Maybe I'm not up on my constitutional law, I thought it was Biden's DEA. Legalization-curious? He's been in office for three years now. If it they cared about it, it would be done. PostNouveau fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Apr 2, 2024 |
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RealityWarCriminal posted:Biden is anti-marijuana
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Mooseontheloose posted:Any poll that has anyone agreeing 100% on an issue, is likely horseshit even if I agree with what they are saying. It is young Democratic voters and covering Somewhat and Strongly Approve a ceasefire, so I wouldn't be surprised to have something like that be extremely high. Now of course you won't keep at 100% if you expanded the poll to more people, but staying above 95% would not surprise me.
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punishedkissinger posted:It's not actually possible to create a SAD thread and the mods have refused to do so. PMs are completely ignored and there appears to be no effort to resolve this issue other than clamping down on the people upset about censoring discussion of an ongoing genocide. I don't ignore PMs. I consider and respond to virtually all of them. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I am indeed making an effort to resolve this by getting a thread IK so I can open the thread back up with more confidence, and again welcome anyone with candidate suggestions to PM them to me.
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Counter-counterpoint: Biden is blitzed on sour diesel right now.
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Mooseontheloose posted:Any poll that has anyone agreeing 100% on an issue, is likely horseshit even if I agree with what they are saying. It's a huge red flag. Not a surprise it would be flogged uncritically in the Intercept though. Absenteeism continues to plague US schools The delta value is also consistent across socioeconomic and racial groups The reasons postulated in the article are: Parents less likely to send actually sick kids to school, more likely to keep kids home due to emotional distress, quote:Across the country, students are staying home when sick, not only with Covid-19, but also with more routine colds and viruses. Loss of trust or decreased belief in the necessity of good attendance: quote:Across the country, students are staying home when sick, not only with Covid-19, but also with more routine colds and viruses. Feedback loops: quote:Experts say missing school is both a symptom of pandemic-related challenges, and also a cause. Students who are behind academically may not want to attend, but being absent sets them further back. Anxious students may avoid school, but hiding out can fuel their anxiety. The article doesn't propose a solution, because no one has found a way to reverse the trend. IMO this is something that will fade out, I think people are still underestimating the lingering effects of the pandemic on our personal and public social lives. It may be that this cohort is just an anomaly and in 10 years when they've worked their way through the system we'll see something more like we expected pre-pandemic. But ~25% chronic absenteeism isn't sustainable, especially when schools are funded by average daily attendance. e: also within in the article is a tool to search individual district attendance to see changes, but not if you live in certain states
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PostNouveau posted:He hasn't done any rounds of loan forgiveness. His team trots out press releases every month about the number of loans forgiven, but they're all from the George W. Bush-era Pay-as-You-Earn program, that is contractually obligated to forgive loans if payments are made for 25 years, or the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program (10 years). It's dumb for him to claim that's him forgiving loans. It's George W. Bush forgiving loans if it's anyone. This isn't true. First off, PSLF is a Bush-era program but PAYE/REPAYE is an Obama-era program from 2012. But then Biden replaced PAYE/REPAYE with SAVE. As someone who was/is on all of these programs, even though I can thank Bush for having my loans erased next year, I'm paying half on SAVE compared to what I was paying on REPAYE pre-pandemic. REPAYE was already half of what I was paying under Bush-era payment programs. On top of all this, Biden's consolidation moratorium allowed me to move my Navient loans into my federal loan, so that they qualified for a better interest rate and lower payments without resetting the clock on my PSLF. There's also the fact that, compared to an unnamed previous administration, Biden is actually forgiving loans under PSLF, so I can count on my years of chronically underpaid public service not being a waste. If Biden loses it's very much a crapshoot for me. DeVos lorded over a 99% denial rate for PSLF forgiveness. Xombie fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Apr 2, 2024 |
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Koos Group posted:I don't ignore PMs. can confirm that koos has responded promptly and politely to all of my PMs, even ones discussing moderation i strongly disagreed with
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Xombie posted:This isn't true. Has the big number at the top gone away? Because that's what loan forgiveness means to everyone who will vote on it if he does it. I have not applied for SAVE because it's getting challenged in the court and I have no faith in them letting me back into PAYE when the psychos on the Supreme Court rule it unconstitutional.
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PostNouveau posted:Has the big number at the top gone away? Because that's what loan forgiveness means to everyone who will vote on it if he does it. My big number goes away if he wins and probably not if he loses. quote:I have not applied for SAVE because it's getting challenged in the court and I have no faith in them letting me back into PAYE when the psychos on the Supreme Court rule it unconstitutional. If they struck down SAVE it would literally just revert back to REPAYE, which again, was an Obama-era law.
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theCalamity posted:https://twitter.com/prem_thakker/status/1775195325612847553?s=46 It's not uncommon when dealing with extremely small slices of an extremely small sample size. This was a poll of just 322 people. Out of that 322 people, only 42 of them were younger than age 30. That said, the question is "Do you support or oppose the US calling for an immediate and permanent Ceasefire in Gaza?". And given that the administration has been calling for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza for weeks, that's not necessarily a reflection of negative opinions toward the administration. Sure, the administration isn't asking for a permanent ceasefire, but the poll doesn't ask about support levels for non-permanent ceasefires. That's literally the only question the poll asks about what voters want done in Gaza. As usual when it comes to polling on the issue, the pollsters aren't asking for a comprehensive look on voters' positions, and their own perspective on the issue heavily influences what few questions they ask. Though I can't say I'm shocked that Poll Progressive Strategies is asking questions intended to produce a progressive framing. That said, they do ask a very important question that very few pollsters bother to, though (unsurprisingly) The Intercept chose to leave this one out of their article: Main Paineframe fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Apr 2, 2024 |
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Xombie posted:If they struck down SAVE it would literally just revert back to REPAYE, which again, was an Obama-era law. All I ever see on this is no one knows what will happen if it gets struck down. I mean, I'd apply for it today, and there may be some good reason too if they rule it's not allowed but everyone in it is grandfathered in. But then again Biden is on the fast-track to losing this election so it could be a situation where the Trump Administration gets to decide what happens to borrowers in a now-struck-down SAVE plan and I start getting $1,000/month bills in my mail.
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