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They need to give you a reason to mill. Hearthstone has fatigue, making mill a legit win condition. Here it just.. passively gives them a widows bite I guess.
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Nah, they don't need to give Mill an upside. Mill decks in any card game should never be competitive, and in a game as short as Marvel Snap they should never be more than a meme. A meta Mill deck would be loving miserable.
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psychopomp posted:What other cards do well in a mill? I remember having fun with Master Mold and Grandmaster. 1 Power: Yondu, Spider-Ham, Nico 2: Cable, Grandmaster, Forge (for Gladiator/Lady D) 3: Zemo, Negasonic, Rogue, Mobius, Gladiator, Magik 4: Abs Man, Shang 5: Black Bolt, Lady D 6: Odin Goblins also take up room on their side of the board.
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I played one game against a Zemo deck. Turn 5 his Zemo pulled my Nico which rolled duplicate, and then turn 6 he played the duplicated Zemo which pulled y final card Knull. I'm surprised it worked that way, i thought the stats on Knull were only a visual indicator and he didn't actually have them the stats until he was on the board.
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CJ posted:I played one game against a Zemo deck. Turn 5 his Zemo pulled my Nico which rolled duplicate, and then turn 6 he played the duplicated Zemo which pulled y final card Knull. Zemo pulls lowest cost card, so if Knull was your last card that's what he gets. Not sure why stats would matter.
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Skippy McPants posted:Nah, they don't need to give Mill an upside. Mill decks in any card game should never be competitive, and in a game as short as Marvel Snap they should never be more than a meme. gently caress mill in all its incarnations I got into deck building games via MTG during Return to Ravnica, I still want to burn House Dimir to the ground Also still riding my hatred for Mystique/Wong, Zemo could disrupt that rhythm I guess.
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Apr 3, 2024 03:24
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The psychological warfare of turn one Red Hulk snap.
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Zemo is fun but Thanos decks are everywhere and the game is boring again. Apparently there's an OTA this week and a patch next week, so maybe it won't be so bad for long
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Apr 3, 2024 05:46
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Red Hulk in one, on a bit of a roll!
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Devo posted:Yeah, you can actually very reliably drain your opponent's deck now. Problem is that most of the draining is low cost cards, so they still hit you with bombs. The thing with Zemo is that if they've drawn their curve plays then you start pulling their bombs. If they haven't, then they're not playing anything much on curve because you're taking it so they only have one or two bombs to try and overcome your board presence. I've already pulled someone's Sera with Zemo. He's more effective than you make out.
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Zemo seems fun also his name is fun to say. Plus the season pass has arguably the best Taskmaster variant so far so it's an ez buy.
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Jedit posted:The thing with Zemo is that if they've drawn their curve plays then you start pulling their bombs. If they haven't, then they're not playing anything much on curve because you're taking it so they only have one or two bombs to try and overcome your board presence. I've hit someone's Sera as well and still lost because they played Brood, Abs, Surfer. I don't think the problem I'm having is necessarily what I'm pulling with Zemo. It's more an issue of not putting up enough points with the surrounding package to win two lanes.
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Devo posted:I've hit someone's Sera as well and still lost because they played Brood, Abs, Surfer. I don't think the problem I'm having is necessarily what I'm pulling with Zemo. It's more an issue of not putting up enough points with the surrounding package to win two lanes. So, he drew his three key cards while you were stealing his whole deck. That doesn't make your deck bad, it makes him lucky. As for not putting up the power, that sounds like a deck building problem. Between stolen cards, Shangbangs and a top end finisher like Red Hulk I'm not seeing much issue. I might try and crowbar Shadow King in somehow for Destroy decks, though - you don't necessarily want to Zemo them, although every tool you remove is a tool they can't ramp with.
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It's early but looks like RedHulk is better than green Hulk in HE now. Was watching someone play him last night as a sub in for Hulk and on average he is typically a bit bigger. Especially for the versions still running Magik. Is it worth it worth it for the info you give your opponent is an open question? On average everyone plays like you have a Hulk on the last turn (unless you did a skip play) so it might not be that detrimental in practice. Also watch out the untapped tracker does a fairly good job of IDing bots, but it can definitely get it wrong and you might be against a player. GarudaPrime fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Apr 3, 2024 |
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Devo posted:Zemo pulls lowest cost card, so if Knull was your last card that's what he gets. Not sure why stats would matter. Ahh i thought it was lowest power.
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Had someone go T4 Wong to T5 Zemo and my deck was thin enough at that point that the second card they pulled was my Knull
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I'm not there yet, but it seems like this is going to be the most relaxed climb to infinite of all time, thanks to the untapped tracker bot detection.
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Is it working for you? I've never had it flag someone as a bot - and I'm sure they've been bots. Edit: reinstalled the tracker and the first game it flagged my opponent as a bot. Maneck fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Apr 3, 2024 |
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uXs posted:I'm not there yet, but it seems like this is going to be the most relaxed climb to infinite of all time, thanks to the untapped tracker bot detection. I don't suppose that works on mobile?
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Maneck posted:Is it working for you? I've never had it flag someone as a bot - and I'm sure they've been bots. Yeah. Apparently there are far less bots on 90+ though. Very sad. Before that I had bots like every, I dunno, 5 games? And it seemed very reliable. Hobo Clown posted:I don't suppose that works on mobile? Nope.
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is there a cap on collector's tokens or did I manage to catch myself hitting 10k on the dot
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flatluigi posted:is there a cap on collector's tokens or did I manage to catch myself hitting 10k on the dot not that I know of. I have 12.1K now and have had 18.9K before
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No, I am at almost 20K currently
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flatluigi posted:is there a cap on collector's tokens or did I manage to catch myself hitting 10k on the dot Don't give them ideas.
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The only currency with a cap is Credits. Gold, Tokens, Keys, and even Conquest Medals are all infinite. Edit: and Tokens are great to horde because it's rare that you need to buy a card with them. I'm sitting on 22k currently and there's nothing anywhere on the horizon that I'm even tempted to spend them on.
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Slapping someone's Ronan with my brand-new Echo is almost as good a feeling as stomping them with Kingpin
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Hobo Clown posted:I don't suppose that works on mobile? They've been pretty consistent in that mobile users and Mac users are a distant second and third to PC users.
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flatluigi posted:is there a cap on collector's tokens or did I manage to catch myself hitting 10k on the dot There's a guy on Twitch who has almost 80k so no
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Kitty is so disgustingly good in this hot location I love her
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uXs posted:Apparently there are far less bots on 90+ though. Very sad. Before that I had bots like every, I dunno, 5 games? And it seemed very reliable. Fewer bots, and now I know I'm not imagining another issue. I complained last month that there seem to be "trying to win" bots in the 90 bracket. As in, opponents who make objectively bad plays which could only plausibly succeed if they know your play. And win as a result. The last one who did this was labelled a bot by the overlay. So, I guess that's a thing Second Dinner does, in prime time hours, for some reason.
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Maneck posted:Fewer bots, and now I know I'm not imagining another issue. I complained last month that there seem to be "trying to win" bots in the 90 bracket. As in, opponents who make objectively bad plays which could only plausibly succeed if they know your play. And win as a result. The last one who did this was labelled a bot by the overlay. So, I guess that's a thing Second Dinner does, in prime time hours, for some reason. All higher-level (R70+) bots do this since they have perfect information, but the stakes are a lot higher in the 90s, so you really notice when it happens. Reminder, bots appear at regular intervals depending on your rank, 70s, 1-in-4 games. 80s, 1-in-5 games. 90s, 1-in-7 games I've paid close attention to those counts the past two seasons and they line up with my experience perfectly. That said, it might depend on your MMR since Second Dinner's "ideal" match-making time is 5 seconds. It's possible the 4/5/7 spacing is the maximum number of bots the system allows players to encounter, and folks who seesaw up and down in the sub-90s see fewer pots as a result of having a wider matchmaking pool. Would be a sad irony if higher MMR players have an easier time ranking just because they see more bots, and know how to spot them and milk them for the maximum number of Cubes.
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Maneck posted:Fewer bots, and now I know I'm not imagining another issue. I complained last month that there seem to be "trying to win" bots in the 90 bracket. As in, opponents who make objectively bad plays which could only plausibly succeed if they know your play. And win as a result. The last one who did this was labelled a bot by the overlay. So, I guess that's a thing Second Dinner does, in prime time hours, for some reason. I've seen literally zero bots since getting to 90+.
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I had my Nimrod-on-Shuri's-Lab Shang-chi'd on the turn he's revealed *twice* today. Once there was an additional Shuri buffing him up. It was pretty obvious both times what kind of deck I'm playing. Thanks for the even easier wins, I guess.
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i've pretty much had zero bots, unless bots now can play with the best / newest cards...
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I've seen bots play brand new meta decks
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T2 my opponent played Ramona, then T3 Mr.Negative, with priority. T3 I played Zemo...he pulled their Zola, and the two Zemo copies then pulled Knull and Iron Man. 
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https://twitter.com/interrobange/status/1775894713390031204 No wonder I keep getting loving Man-Thing
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I am still missing like 10 s4 cards and always pull the dupe, the system is not working properly or working extremely properly if you are SD
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if SD wants me to stop hoarding keys they'll guarantee you don't have the random card if not collection complete. I know, I know, they'd be outta business in a week but they did this to themselves. also the weighted 2:1 4/5 ratio means it's worse than I thought.
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This wouldn't be so bad if the dice roll option wasn't such a middle finger. At least make that 3k tokens so you can get a S4 card.
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