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DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Thoguh posted:

Also we're doing all this but weed will somehow still be federally illegal until the heat death of the universe.

Oh yeah, what's that about?

Look at all of the profits from legalizing that vice here, including stocks that even Americans invested in. Sounds like a great speculative bubble for people to get in on and offset the TRPF.

They could probably even machine roll them and add nicotine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwoCyF6qJzE

DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 22:06 on Apr 4, 2024

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selec
Sep 6, 2003

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

At the same time, I do want to understand the aesthetic, dress and deportment etc. Tattoos, yelling and being aggressive in personal interactions, wearing jewelry, those all obviously have an underlying function related to their class position and material conditions.

Are we talking about poor people, or rural high earners/landed gentry, because you're describing something that is more cultural than it is necessarily class-based. We had a bar owner from where I live get arrested in FL and if you watch the body cam video he looks and acts exactly like you're describing.

DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde
Many years ago in college I was researching the Big Tobacco lawsuits of the nineties for a paper I was writing and found some stat that Virginia had actually used the payout to subsidize tobacco farming. It hindsight it was my first real crack-ping moment.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Engorged Pedipalps posted:

What do we want the state to do

Opposing the state banning a harmful product because half the votes came from scorning racists seems counter to what we're doing and more like a stand you take on principle

weird how the exact same harmful product that's marketed toward the ruling racial majority isn't banned tho right

selec
Sep 6, 2003

also, camel crushes are the fuckin' future of cigarettes, but as usual americans get hosed over with the worst version. in asia and south america you can buy multiple different brands of crush-based cigs, there are even double-crush varieties, so you have one little ball that is menthol, and one this is loving grape and they are the god tier cig. just an incredible experience. in china they sell crush cigs that are cig roulette--you know what flavors are in there (well, chinese people do, i couldn't read it) but the cigs themselves are unmarked. there's a novelty cig brand in china with Operator marketing, so the cigs themselves have a little time-scale on the outside of the tube, how many minutes it would take to burn from that point, so you can use it for your sabotage ops, and the pack itself is camo.

anyway, cigs rule, and we get the worst of them here.

Casey Finnigan
Apr 30, 2009

Dumb ✔
So goddamn crazy ✔
i don't like cigarettes cause my mom used to smoke in my car and that poo poo smelled nasty

selec
Sep 6, 2003

Casey Finnigan posted:

i don't like cigarettes cause my mom used to smoke in my car and that poo poo smelled nasty

yeah i switched to juul but if we go abroad i buy packs of whatever local oddities they got, and bring two cartons worth home to give to all my dirtbag friends. they are the most popular souvenir ever.

Casey Finnigan
Apr 30, 2009

Dumb ✔
So goddamn crazy ✔
Euros are crazy with the cigarettes though. My cousin buys big ol bags of loose tobacco and rolls them up with one hand on a windy day. I'm very impressed by his skills

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

rich zipcodes, known for how many gas stations they have

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

https://twitter.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1775937108646961190

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

Stock market poo poo its pants today

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Raccooon posted:

Stock market poo poo its pants today

its cuz the feds said maybe only one rate cut this year..... :qq:

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Raccooon posted:

Stock market poo poo its pants today

sign that tomorrows job number might not be good lol

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Raccooon posted:

Stock market poo poo its pants today

Yeah just totally dumped in the last hour. AMD down 8%

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Xaris posted:

speaking of Da Poors vices, Altria has been lobbying almost every state to ban vapes, specifically banning almost every non-Altria-branded vapes, in trying to corner the market leaving only their brand. and bans are passing with flying colors with mega bucks behind them. Also bought out On! and Zyn recently too. get ready for some poor vices to skyrocket in price and restrictions

menthol cigarets were supposed to be federally outlawed by now but goshdangit, it's an election year.

quote:

The Biden administration is preparing to soon finalize highly anticipated standards targeting menthol cigarettes despite heavy opposition from small business, civil rights, law enforcement and free market consumer groups.

The regulations, which would broadly ban the product, were first proposed by the Food and Drug Administration two years ago and have sparked a contentious debate between health advocates and civil liberties and business groups.

The FDA has repeatedly missed target dates for finalizing the proposed ban, the latest of which was earlier this week.

“The FDA remains committed to issuing the tobacco product standards for menthol in cigarettes and characterizing flavors in cigars as expeditiously as possible; these rules have been submitted to the [Office of Management and Budget] for review, which is the final step in the rulemaking process,” an FDA spokesperson told Fox News Digital. “As we’ve made clear, these product standards remain at the top of our priorities.”

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

Casey Finnigan posted:

Euros are crazy with the cigarettes though. My cousin buys big ol bags of loose tobacco and rolls them up with one hand on a windy day. I'm very impressed by his skills

the only thing i remember from Pulitzer winning novel "The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay" was a scene where one of the characters is idly going thru the cigarette butts in an ash tray to put together one cigarette worth smoking. I remember thinking, drat id probably do that if it was WW2 too

Casey Finnigan
Apr 30, 2009

Dumb ✔
So goddamn crazy ✔
Oh yeah I read that book too. The main thing I remember was that nasty scene where the one guy hocks a loogie

the popes toes
Oct 10, 2004

Raccooon posted:

Stock market poo poo its pants today

That's because a franchise owner said he couldn't charge 20 bucks for a Happy Meal. It's the talk o' the town.

Subvisual Haze
Nov 22, 2003

The building was on fire and it wasn't my fault.

post hole digger posted:

sign that tomorrows job number might not be good lol
But if jobs number bad that means we can cut rates faster.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

speaking of spyware, I signed up to fill out yougov polls & surveys a couple months ago, mainly to represent socialist olds in polling.

they incentivize reponses by dangling a free $15 gift card after getting "points" for taking surveys but I've filled out like 20 so far and yet I'm only around halfway to that gc.

anyway, they're trying to get me to load spyware in order to rack up more points, lol.



YouGov Safe doesn't sound very safe to me!

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

yougov is just a market research company

Rectal Death Alert
Apr 2, 2021

selec posted:

also, camel crushes are the fuckin' future of cigarettes, but as usual americans get hosed over with the worst version. in asia and south america you can buy multiple different brands of crush-based cigs, there are even double-crush varieties, so you have one little ball that is menthol, and one this is loving grape and they are the god tier cig. just an incredible experience. in china they sell crush cigs that are cig roulette--you know what flavors are in there (well, chinese people do, i couldn't read it) but the cigs themselves are unmarked. there's a novelty cig brand in china with Operator marketing, so the cigs themselves have a little time-scale on the outside of the tube, how many minutes it would take to burn from that point, so you can use it for your sabotage ops, and the pack itself is camo.

anyway, cigs rule, and we get the worst of them here.

The best cigarettes are the chocolate ones I had in central america

The smoke even smelled like chocolate

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

post hole digger posted:

yougov is just a market research company

it does political polling for the economist & other clients, too.

most pollsters are also into market research, like gallup.

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003



t….ory…?

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Engorged Pedipalps posted:

I have an iMac at home and I see ads on it all the time, just like in windows there are panes you have to disable and hide to get rid of sponsored ads and unlike in windows you're forced to interact with the app store which is just one big ad

If I pull left on any out of the box iPad it takes you to suggested apps and sponsored content from the weather channel

You can't install anything on the loving thing without seeing full screen ads for whatever apple is selling

By default the iPad sends you regular obtrusive notifications to advertise sponsored and proprietary software

You can configure an android in a corporate environment to not even be able to see Google's own servers let alone adservs, and it'll still work just fine, try this with iOs and I hear tim apple will personally brick your device

Apple's refusal to support side loading defeats any argument about advertising on the spot because your iOS device is a loving paperweight if you don't regularly stroll through Apple's storefront while android devices can just be fed an APK for half the poo poo you need it to do

Isn't there an entire industry of companies that pay Apple or whatever Android company to put their programs in your phone and you can install them .? I forgot the term for it.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Subvisual Haze posted:

But if jobs number bad that means we can cut rates faster.

The jobs report will be good which means it is bad

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Rectal Death Alert posted:

The best cigarettes are the chocolate ones I had in america

The smoke even smelled like chocolate

You shouldn’t say that about Newports!

Typical European. We say “urban” cigarettes, and they smelled like “urban” people.

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

err posted:

we are just making them OD in the streets



that’s about a million people dead on that graph

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

I really hate this poo poo. There's no way poor people could live that would satisfy the middle class. If they were buying sensible cardigans from the GAP instead of streetwear, and last season's Sperry's instead of sneakers, and saving every other penny, they would still hate them, still turn that aesthetic into a racial caricature etc etc.

At the same time, I do want to understand the aesthetic, dress and deportment etc. Tattoos, yelling and being aggressive in personal interactions, wearing jewelry, those all obviously have an underlying function related to their class position and material conditions.

e: I think jewelry was explained to me as a form of portable wealth that could be used to post bail, launders cash from the informal economy into purchasing power and social status, can't be stolen from insecure housing while the owner is absent (wearing it).

is this a frosted flake quote

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

selec posted:

also, camel crushes are the fuckin' future of cigarettes, but as usual americans get hosed over with the worst version. in asia and south america you can buy multiple different brands of crush-based cigs, there are even double-crush varieties, so you have one little ball that is menthol, and one this is loving grape and they are the god tier cig. just an incredible experience. in china they sell crush cigs that are cig roulette--you know what flavors are in there (well, chinese people do, i couldn't read it) but the cigs themselves are unmarked. there's a novelty cig brand in china with Operator marketing, so the cigs themselves have a little time-scale on the outside of the tube, how many minutes it would take to burn from that point, so you can use it for your sabotage ops, and the pack itself is camo.

anyway, cigs rule, and we get the worst of them here.

how do I get some of these please?

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

OBAMNA PHONE posted:

rich zipcodes, known for how many gas stations they have

these men are so smart I just want to strangle them

now, let’s use this opportunity I’ve granted the thread as chance to wipe the past phone chat from our memories and start fresh

i am harry has issued a correction as of 23:34 on Apr 4, 2024

selec
Sep 6, 2003

i am harry posted:

how do I get some of these please?

you can order good cigs online if you’re willing to western union money to Australia for a package that gets sent from Malaysia

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

selec posted:

you can order good cigs online if you’re willing to western union money to Australia for a package that gets sent from Malaysia

looks like you can diy it

https://crushyballs.com/

sonatinas
Apr 15, 2003

Seattle Karate Vs. L.A. Karate

Xaris posted:

speaking of Da Poors vices, Altria has been lobbying almost every state to ban vapes, specifically banning almost every non-Altria-branded vapes, in trying to corner the market leaving only their brand. and bans are passing with flying colors with mega bucks behind them. Also bought out On! and Zyn recently too. get ready for some poor vices to skyrocket in price and restrictions

so many people in my office chugging energy drinks and spitting zyn

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Shageletic posted:

Isn't there an entire industry of companies that pay Apple or whatever Android company to put their programs in your phone and you can install them .? I forgot the term for it.

You can't use device management software on an Apple device without interacting with the app store and all the software pushes you do with these systems go through the app store so even if you can keep the ads from the users you can't keep the analytics they generate from Apple

Apple MDMs let you do things that users could do without the users permission or input, so you use it to install monitoring software or remote wipe a device, they don't let you disconnect from the apple ecosystem or drastically reconfigure the device. I think there may be some kiosk mode style things we can do but otherwise :shrug:

Consolidated Ed
Mar 4, 2005
Lineman for Justice

Engorged Pedipalps posted:

I have an iMac at home and I see ads on it all the time, just like in windows there are panes you have to disable and hide to get rid of sponsored ads and unlike in windows you're forced to interact with the app store which is just one big ad

If I pull left on any out of the box iPad it takes you to suggested apps and sponsored content from the weather channel

You can't install anything on the loving thing without seeing full screen ads for whatever apple is selling

By default the iPad sends you regular obtrusive notifications to advertise sponsored and proprietary software

You can configure an android in a corporate environment to not even be able to see Google's own servers let alone adservs, and it'll still work just fine, try this with iOs and I hear tim apple will personally brick your device

Apple's refusal to support side loading defeats any argument about advertising on the spot because your iOS device is a loving paperweight if you don't regularly stroll through Apple's storefront while android devices can just be fed an APK for half the poo poo you need it to do

"my android works like an iphone when i janitor it with an enterprise MDM service"

--a dumb IT bitch who sucks

Consolidated Ed
Mar 4, 2005
Lineman for Justice

silicone thrills posted:

There's a small city south of seattle that is currently trying so hard to punish its homeless population that even the county sheriff has told them they're going too loving hard.


do you have any articles about this

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Consolidated Ed posted:

"my android works like an iphone when i janitor it with an enterprise MDM service"

--a dumb IT bitch who sucks

The fact that my android does not work like your piece of poo poo device out of the box is why I purchased it

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005
android sucks poo poo, i used to be die-hard anti-apple when the iphone first came out so i bought a nexus one and then an htc g2 and then the iphone 4s came out and i was like "gently caress this, i'm switching", never going back to google's garbage

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Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy

Shipon posted:

android sucks poo poo, i used to be die-hard anti-apple when the iphone first came out so i bought a nexus one and then an htc g2 and then the iphone 4s came out and i was like "gently caress this, i'm switching", never going back to google's garbage

yep

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