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SixFigureSandwich
Oct 30, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Private Speech posted:

So uhh can anyone explain to me why are we cutting national insurance contributions at the same time as the papers are complaining that state pensions are underfunded? Seems a bit counterproductive.

It was the Tories' desperate attempt to gain a bit of quick popularity and call a general election on the back of it. But at this point public services are so poorly run due to lack of funding that even the average voter has noticed and went "hold on surely we use this money better for other things" so an October GE it is, or possibly even later. Looking forward to the Tories getting massacred in the local elections next month

e: 135 is the number of seats the Tories' will be left with after the next election

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Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Microplastics posted:

I think it's fair game to mock a kink and I say that as someone with kinks. I find it funny when my kinks are mocked and although I appreciate not everyone might like their kinks being mocked, I nevertheless don't think kinks fall under the umbrella of sexual identity that ought to be treated with utmost respect. Mocking someone for being gay or bi or poly is unacceptable but mocking someone for enjoying being pissed on is, on my estimation, just as acceptable as mocking someone for enjoying their garden gnome collection, the nature of the enjoyment (hobbyist recreation vs. surging hormones) being pretty irrelevant. Although I would say that mocking it to their face - or discriminating against them based on it - is absolutely a dick move, either to the garden gnome guy (your hobby, who gives a poo poo) or the piss guy ("not my kink but your kink is OK"). And if you're mocking it in their vicinity and they ask you to stop, then again it's a dick move to continue. But mocking a kink in a public forum seems otherwise fine to me. I'm open to be convinced otherwise though which is why I'm posting about it.

If you've never had to struggle with shame for having a harmless kink then more power to you but lots of people do and it can lead to a bunch of negative outcomes like self-esteem issues, adultery, pursuing unhealthy sexual outlets or becoming a Tory politician so you can demonise your own behaviour.

And that's not even discussing how often kink crosses over with sexuality/gender queerness and shaming one indirectly shames the other

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
The NI cut is a bribe to their most loyal voters - even the oval office knows they're losing in a big way - in the hope that a few of those with the biggest majorities can delay having to get an actual job for 5 more years.

Tai
Mar 8, 2006

Private Speech posted:

So uhh can anyone explain to me why are we cutting national insurance contributions at the same time as the papers are complaining that state pensions are underfunded? Seems a bit counterproductive.



Just a reminder to who this benefits. People who don't need a tax cut.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Rarity posted:

If you've never had to struggle with shame for having a harmless kink then more power to you but lots of people do and it can lead to a bunch of negative outcomes like self-esteem issues, adultery, pursuing unhealthy sexual outlets or becoming a Tory politician so you can demonise your own behaviour.

And that's not even discussing how often kink crosses over with sexuality/gender queerness and shaming one indirectly shames the other
Yeah I remember how fast the furry mocking went from internet fun to oops all homophobes. If you're a Tory MP who enjoys being pissed on by multiple swole men wearing leather harnesses, consider cutting out the disgusting harmful part and stop being a Tory MP, but the rest is fine.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
You're lying to yourself if you don't admit to taking the piss (lol) out of people's kinks as long as they are people you don't like.

Like nobody said anything about Liz Truss's necklace.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money...goes-under.html

Sorry for heil link but anyway training provider has gone bust leaving loads of youngsters in the lurch unable to complete courses for which they have paid up front. (Practical courses not meedja studies)
This is the sort of thing the govt should bail out - at least to allow those part way through courses to be able to finish.
This happened to someone I know a couple of years ago signed up for a Salesforce course and it went bust before she finishes and that has cost her a fair bit - single mum trying to get a WFH qualification. (Her story ended well others not).

dadrips
Jan 8, 2010

everything you do is a balloon
College Slice
Don't mock him for his kinks, mock him for how he chooses to style what's left of his hair. I was stunned to learn he's in his mid thirties, that wispy combover adds a whole decade to his look.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face
Hello goons, I'm trying to sort out internet at my new house and have realised the landline is chopped off at the box where it enters the house - just a short wire poking out of it and nothing else. There are no phone sockets.

I'm also seeing something about landlines being phased out over the next few years? Or am I misunderstanding that. Should I just be getting full fibre? What speed am I gonna need (family of 4-5, lot of streaming but haven't really ever had a problem with the standard copper wire broadband at the old place)

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I'd get cable and bypass the whole mess, but ymmv. Virgin Business don't care if you're an actual business now as long as you're willing to put some bare minimum effort in to saying you're doing some WFH stuff on it.

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
Zen internet if they offer fibre to your house. You'll pay a little bit over other companies like Virgin but their customer service is good last time I used them.

Dr. Cool Aids
Jul 6, 2009

NotJustANumber99 posted:

You're lying to yourself if you don't admit to taking the piss (lol) out of people's kinks as long as they are people you don't like.

Like nobody said anything about Liz Truss's necklace.

poking fun at a kink that it turns out your mate has = shameful, a learning opportunity

speculating that a woman with cancer has been beaten into a coma by her husband then moving on to "the leaves in the video aren't moving, how strange" = no self-reflection needed

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Kink shaming is wrong but that doesn't change the fact that some kinks are just funny. You can't make a clown fetish not funny, and I would argue trying to do so detracts from the original intent.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Dr. Cool Aids posted:

speculating that a woman with cancer has been beaten into a coma by her husband then moving on to "the leaves in the video aren't moving, how strange" = no self-reflection needed

You assume that I've had no self reflection. You assume a lot, don't you :allears:

Dr. Cool Aids
Jul 6, 2009

fuctifino posted:

You assume that I've had no self reflection. You assume a lot, don't you :allears:

you appear to still be a horrible oval office so it can't have been fruitful

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Dr. Cool Aids posted:

you appear to still be a horrible oval office so it can't have been fruitful

:allears:

I find you cute

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Dr. Cool Aids posted:

you appear to still be a horrible oval office so it can't have been fruitful

gently caress off eh Doctor “Cool Aids”

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I have no self reflection but that's mostly since that visit to Romania.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Like nobody said anything about Liz Truss's necklace.

Tesseraction posted:

You can't make a clown fetish not funny, and I would argue trying to do so detracts from the original intent.
:hmmyes:

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

smellmycheese posted:

gently caress off eh Doctor “Cool Aids”

But I like having a FYAD stalker called 'Dr Cool Aids' with a posting history such as theirs trying to preach morality, because it's a loving hilarious example of hypocrisy.

:justpost: imo

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

fuctifino posted:

But I like having a FYAD stalker called 'Dr Cool Aids' with a posting history such as theirs trying to preach morality, because it's a loving hilarious example of hypocrisy.

:justpost: imo

lol

Fumble
Sep 4, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 15 days!

fuctifino posted:

But I like having a FYAD stalker called 'Dr Cool Aids' with a posting history such as theirs trying to preach morality, because it's a loving hilarious example of hypocrisy.

:justpost: imo

have some fun with it. you know you have real power if you can summon them at will into threads of your choosing.

grobbo
May 29, 2014
Handing your unknowing colleagues' contact details over to a blackmailer (even though you'd previously been interviewed by the police about blackmail attempts against MPs, and presumably had a contact there who you could have alerted at short notice) is a very funny act of rat-bastard cowardice and I think that's what deserves to be focused on here

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

grobbo posted:

Handing your unknowing colleagues' contact details over to a blackmailer (even though you'd previously been interviewed by the police about blackmail attempts against MPs, and presumably had a contact there who you could have alerted at short notice) is a very funny act of rat-bastard cowardice and I think that's what deserves to be focused on here

No honour among Tories

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
He's just a massive loving coward, and his response to being threatened is to try to throw other people under any nearby bus.

The man's clearly a huge liability and when he's kicked out of the MP job that lets him order all the piss he wants, I hope he ends up with a poo poo job.

Starbucks
Jul 7, 2002

Your daily cup of fuck you.

Maugrim posted:

Hello goons, I'm trying to sort out internet

Use Samknows to understand what you can get, in order of preference I would go Community Fibre at that location > CityFibre > Openreach FTTP > Virgin > Openreach FTTC.

Providers on those depends on what is important to you

Edit: When did Samknows become Cisco and useless?

Starbucks fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Apr 5, 2024

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
Piss... is funny. Maybe even funnier than poo.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

fuctifino posted:

But I like having a FYAD stalker called 'Dr Cool Aids' with a posting history such as theirs trying to preach morality, because it's a loving hilarious example of hypocrisy

who was it who was banned for goreposting again

Solefald
Jun 9, 2010

sleepy~capy


Calling someone out on their bullshit in a single thread is stalking, yes, hmm. :hmmyes:

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

who was it who was banned for goreposting again
:allears:
But I'm not the one preaching morality to others, am I? I was explaining why I took my own personal decision to leave out the Grindr and piss stuff. Each to their own imo.

Solefald posted:

Calling someone out on their bullshit in a single thread is stalking, yes, hmm. :hmmyes:

I notice you didn't touch on the point I made about their hypocrisy. Thanks for agreeing with me on that point, friend.

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 13:03 on Apr 5, 2024

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Maugrim posted:

Hello goons, I'm trying to sort out internet at my new house and have realised the landline is chopped off at the box where it enters the house - just a short wire poking out of it and nothing else. There are no phone sockets.

I'm also seeing something about landlines being phased out over the next few years? Or am I misunderstanding that. Should I just be getting full fibre? What speed am I gonna need (family of 4-5, lot of streaming but haven't really ever had a problem with the standard copper wire broadband at the old place)

Think copper is getting done away with in 2025.

-----------

I'm with Fibrus in Northern Ireland, 100Mbps for just me.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Starbucks posted:

Use Samknows to understand what you can get, in order of preference I would go Community Fibre at that location > CityFibre > Openreach FTTP > Virgin > Openreach FTTC.

Providers on those depends on what is important to you

Edit: When did Samknows become Cisco and useless?

What's the difference between cityfibre and Openreach fttp?

Dr. Cool Aids
Jul 6, 2009

NotJustANumber99 posted:

What's the difference between cityfibre and Openreach fttp?

about this much :goatsecx:

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

kingturnip posted:

The NI cut is a bribe to their most loyal voters - even the oval office knows they're losing in a big way - in the hope that a few of those with the biggest majorities can delay having to get an actual job for 5 more years.

Technically it isn't, because that's pensioners and they already pay zero NI.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

feedmegin posted:

Technically it isn't, because that's pensioners and they already pay zero NI.

Not exactly all pensioners. I just know my 40-something colleague who is a "why cant we all just get along" centrist will vote tory purely on the grounds that labour have said they'll add VAT to school fees. From what she's previously said, this is the view a lot of her friends will take. Sod everything and everyone else.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

I was having a few spins on the random waffle images generator to add content for the GBS thread, and came across this incredible photo from happier calmer times

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

josh04 posted:

I did bring it up for prurient, salacious reasons tbh. I think it's funny that an honest piss guy has a shameful second life as a tory MP.
I think that context of him being a member of a virulently prudish and homophobic organisation is important - the classic hypocrisy of being involved in publicly shaming or legislating against things he privately engages in (didn't that anti-bdsm law a few years ago ban piss porn?)

To me at least that's the difference between going 'ha ha he's a piss guy and a grinder user' and going 'ha ha, he's a tory who has been going on about family values while secretly using grinder and is into piss.'


Tesseraction posted:

Kink shaming is wrong but that doesn't change the fact that some kinks are just funny. You can't make a clown fetish not funny, and I would argue trying to do so detracts from the original intent.
I have no idea where the line is. Like apparently someone is hurt enough by jokes about pegging to start throwing PMs around, but like you say, like with clown porn at some point you have to just say 'no that is an odd thing to be into.' Should we all be apologising for the :sexarse: jokes incase someone uses one?

For the record I am kind of semiseriously asking this. Since diagnosis I have realised that with so many things there is a line drawn between what is generally seen as acceptable and not acceptable, and most other people seem to know where that line is.

Good humour rides that line, but doesn't overstep it. And the line is always shifting. So I regularly feel like I'm going crazy watching someone get pilloried for the kind of thing everyone was laughing about 10 minutes ago.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Amazing that the tory press have managed to paint inheritance tax as a 'double tax' (it isn't, there is no legal requirement to accept a bequeathment) while ignoring the actual double tax of VAT, and doubly amazing that Labour are going down the 'more VAT' route rather than challenging that narrative.

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon

Starbucks posted:

Edit: When did Samknows become Cisco and useless?

Use the Better Internet Dashboard for much better info these days. If you're lucky you'll get some nice community fibre-to-the-premesis which will most likely give you the best speeds and service at the cheapest price.

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PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

Loonytoad Quack posted:

Use the Better Internet Dashboard for much better info these days. If you're lucky you'll get some nice community fibre-to-the-premesis which will most likely give you the best speeds and service at the cheapest price.

This is recommending a company called brsk to me. Anyone in the thread have an idea what they are like?

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