Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Not exactly all pensioners. I just know my 40-something colleague who is a "why cant we all just get along" centrist will vote tory purely on the grounds that labour have said they'll add VAT to school fees. From what she's previously said, this is the view a lot of her friends will take. Sod everything and everyone else.

feedmegin posted:

That's VAT not NI though?

A pensioner who actually has a job (I am just realising this is presumably you) will presumably pay NI on it but usual sources of Tory pensioner income (like...pensions, public and private) don't pay it, and I would never peg (err. no pun intended on other conversations itt) you as a Tory voter.

Rarity posted:

If you've never had to struggle with shame for having a harmless kink then more power to you but lots of people do and it can lead to a bunch of negative outcomes like self-esteem issues, adultery, pursuing unhealthy sexual outlets or becoming a Tory politician so you can demonise your own behaviour.

And that's not even discussing how often kink crosses over with sexuality/gender queerness and shaming one indirectly shames the other

fuctifino posted:

fuctifino posted:

Regarding that Teledyne factory that was targeted by Palestine Action, a youtube auditor visited the site, and the protesters were successful in closing the factory down. There's been a hell of a lot of rain since the roof was damaged that will have leaked into the building.



The protesters definitely slowed down production of whatever specialist components they were manufacturing there, and even a delay of a few days is a significant victory imo.

Lord of the Llamas posted:

If you're gonna vote Tory because of VAT on private schools I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you probably aren't a centrist of any description.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

She thinks she's a centrist and she thinks she's representative of most of the UK* "everyone just wants to be in the middle" - she thinks private schools are centrist and the other thing she blames Labour for is the thing where if you are a couple & one earns more than £50k - her husband - and the other earns less (she's on about £14k - part time) you don't get child benefit but if they were both on £32k (giving same gross total) they would get child benefit and this is Labour's fault despite the fact that the tories have been in power 14 years - so it obviously suited them to keep the system - and didn't change it until this year which happens to be election year.

*heck - maybe she's right about that and maybe this group of people - mid 40s with a kid at private school - will ignore everything else & vote tory on this, their red line? I know she's pretty clueless about almost anything politics - my other colleague & I both have left wing views & we are sometimes gobsmacked at how ignorant on any number of political issues the centrist one is (she doesn't do politics).

Lord of the Llamas posted:

The HICBC came into effect in 2013 and was announced in the 2012 budget by noted Labour Chancellor *checks notes* George Osborne. So sounds like she is just deluded in more than one way.

To be fair HICBC is a really stupid tax - anything that temporarily increases your marginal rate is pretty stupid. There's plenty of dumb things about our tax system that both progressive and conservative governments should be motivated to get rid of if they were interested in being a competent government and not just terrified of bad headlines if they were honest about what our tax system should look like. VAT on private schools however is a good tax; and since only a small percentage of children are actually in private school I can't imagine this middle-class-but-not-rich demographic who piss away their disposable income on a private school is very large at all. Personally I think anyone with a household income <150k are absolute fools to even consider private school. Maybe even more than that. It's so insanely expensive and just putting away that cash to buy your kid a home is going to benefit them much more.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I guess they're might be some other services that are providing education that would get swept up in a change to charge posho school fees vat.

fuctifino posted:

Keith's going to be doing all these things when he's PM. He signed these pledges, and he's an ex leading human rights lawyer, so he wouldn't lie about important things like this



A moral case for socialism. It's there in his own words. Vote 4 Keith

Loonytoad Quack posted:

Use the Better Internet Dashboard for much better info these days. If you're lucky you'll get some nice community fibre-to-the-premesis which will most likely give you the best speeds and service at the cheapest price.

Tai posted:

Zen internet if they offer fibre to your house. You'll pay a little bit over other companies like Virgin but their customer service is good last time I used them.

OwlFancier posted:

So it is utterly unsurprising that she would repeat stuff like that. Because in the 90's she would have been saying it about gay men.

Small Strange Bird posted:

Based on those pledges, I would certainly vote for Ihu Sturm!

Tesseraction posted:

Really sad we're in the timeline where he won and Rebecca Long-Bailey didn't.

Maugrim posted:

Do you have a zen referral code or anything? Given how fed up we're getting with all the customer service we're dealing with lately, I'm gonna go with them.

quote:

Thames Water troubles swell as parent firm defaults on debt

Thames Water has seen its troubles deepen after its parent company defaulted on part of its huge debt pile.

Kemble Water has formally told lenders it failed to meet a deadline to pay interest on £400m of debt due on Tuesday.

The water giant has also asked lenders not to take any action as it explores its options.

Thames Water's 16 million customers will not be affected.

This notification confirms an announcement on 28 March that Kemble would be unable to repay its lenders as interest and principal payments - including a loan repayment of £190m due at the end of April - come up.

It has issued a formal notice to its bondholders, but asked them to take "no creditor action" in order to enable a "stable platform" for negotiations. Companies sell bonds to investors to raise the funds they need, paying the money back over time with a premium.

TACD posted:

My partner’s medical weed arrived today and it is both delightful and surreal reading through official documentation on “how to vape weed”

smellmycheese posted:

The taps will have to run dry and Tories be up to their knees in turds before the Tories nationalise water

Lord of the Llamas posted:

Given that Labour haven't published the finer details and there is no legislation before parliament being debated then that's just scaremongering speculation?

Tesseraction posted: