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Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive
the grim prophylaxis

e: Caesium-137 is a radioactive isotope of caesium that is formed as one of the more common fission products by the nuclear fission of uranium-235 and other fissionable isotopes in nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons.

Nuclear Spoon fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Apr 5, 2024

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Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
a nuclear spoon made of caesium is not a good idea

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Far too many calories imo

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I guess I don't need to stir my coffee anyway

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

kingturnip posted:

I guess I don't need to stir my coffee anyway

hmm but a spoon that reheats your coffee with a stir….

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

mediaphage posted:

hmm but a spoon that reheats your coffee with a stir….

And glows a pretty blue while it does!

domhal
Dec 30, 2008


0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.

quote:

Thames Water's 16 million customers will not be affected.

Almost as if water exists and comes out of taps despite rather than because of Thames Water.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1776197554830553421

Lib Dems winning here :toot:

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Pretty sure that Jeb! "Common Core" Bush, husband of a Mexican immigrant, is more progressive than Sir Keith Stonger at this point.

And that's by no means a compliment to Jeb! "I stole the 2000 election for my brother lmao" Bush, who is a oval office.


e: 2000 not 2020, force of habit typing "stolen election"

Tesseraction fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Apr 5, 2024

SixFigureSandwich
Oct 30, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Microplastics posted:

The Tories have no problems with nationalising things so long as it's done in a way that somehow transfers huge amounts of public money to their mates

This, remember they nationalised some train operators that went bust during Covid. Sunak could nationalise Thames Water for a bit of quick popularity that he sorely needs

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Sunak's one chance of changing a disaster into just a standard election loss involves neutralising Reform and getting their voters back: that's why no. 10 keeps spouting all this nonsense about woke theatres and Marxist liveable neighbourhoods, it's the sort of poo poo that those sort of voters think is important.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

SixFigureSandwich posted:

Sunak could nationalise Thames Water for a bit of quick popularity that he sorely needs
It would be funny to see Starmer have to perform the mental gymnastics required to see the tories get a polling bump by nationalising something and still somehow have to come out against it to avoid being Corbyned.

Politics is so hosed.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
It doesn't really reflect well on Labour that - if you eyeball that graph, at least - it seems that Reform voters would otherwise vote Labour.
On the other hand, if you're Keith Stürmführer, every vote for Labour is a vote in favour of the project he's personally masterminded.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

crispix posted:

it's tempting with hindsight to question why they didn't (it would have torn the party asunder), but they should really have just dished the poo poo on the labour right, properly hosed them up

as it turns out tearing the party apart wouldn't have mattered much because we now know the party will never again serve the interests of the country's shat upon

You're absolutely right, the Labour party today is systemically a method to block left-wing policy, using it's FPTP position. Was at a branch meeting this evening, an older lady asked the candidate which of the natural monopolies Starmer pledged to bring into common ownership would be Labour policy to nationalise and she got completely shut-down/actively insulted by the party officials there.

Proportional representation needs to be the political project of the UK left. The Tories are the same wierd network of inbred sex-pests, nephews, rentiers and socioeconomic murderers they've always been, and Labour now is just them but dialled back 15%. Both parties are completely useless.

SixFigureSandwich posted:

This, remember they nationalised some train operators that went bust during Covid. Sunak could nationalise Thames Water for a bit of quick popularity that he sorely needs

But he won't. Sunak is personally very comfortable losing the next election and loving off to America, even the Tory MPs sure to lose their seats can pocket the £160,000 they made from the anti-Corbyn establishment animus. Even if Penny Mordaunt became leader tomorrow and carried that sword to every constituency promising to nationalise natural monopolies they'd still lose, so why bother?

Vitamin P fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Apr 6, 2024

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear



phwoar so many tory parties to choose from

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

With Labour being such a massive non-entity and climate increasingly on the news agenda, how come Greens are still polling so low?

Obviously I don't expect them to be competing for government or even realistically getting into a coalition, but 8% still seems incredibly low when their natural rivals are going out of their way to promise absolutely nothing.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

xtothez posted:

With Labour being such a massive non-entity and climate increasingly on the news agenda, how come Greens are still polling so low?

Obviously I don't expect them to be competing for government or even realistically getting into a coalition, but 8% still seems incredibly low when their natural rivals are going out of their way to promise absolutely nothing.

probably because people assume they can’t win so they won’t vote for them like every other green party

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


They are kindof Tory-ish sometimes too, particular on affordable housing and such.

I still vote for them but it definitely takes a bit of teeth clenching when they proudly talk about stopping high-density social housing development in the area in their campaign leaflets.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

I don't know what the Greens are like nationally, but in the handful of times I tried to get involved, local representation seemed to consist of shy tories, centrists and conspiracy theorists of all varieties. There are some local green campaigners here who also campaign against 5G and vaccines while spouting a hell of a lot of fash-aligned conspiracy bullshit. I just nope out each time and keep my distance.

Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014

Sir Sidney Poitier posted:

I don't get why folks are saying community fibre will have the best service. It might be the 'best' place for your money to go, but the best service comes from an ISP that has both the technical and organisational infrastructure to provide good service along with knowledgeable staff that aren't just reading from a script.

A lot of new FTTP deployments will be like in the US where you have no choice of provider and therefore no incentive to maintain decent service. This is compounded given that most of them have had massive investment from private equity to get the fibre in the ground and eventually they're going to want a return on that investment - which means increasing margins and enshittification.

I am with Zen and have been for years. I've worked in ISPs more than a decade (not Zen) and any time I've had to call, the person on the phone knows more about that technology than me.

Zen have been around since the earliest days of UK broadband and still exist for a reason. I switched away a while back but as soon as I'm out of contract I'll be switching back. It's absolutely worth paying a few quid extra to have support who know what they're talking about instead of call centre minions working through a script.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Photo from Farages 60th birthday party

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Private Speech posted:

They are kindof Tory-ish sometimes too, particular on affordable housing and such.

I still vote for them but it definitely takes a bit of teeth clenching when they proudly talk about stopping high-density social housing development in the area in their campaign leaflets.

in canada the west coast greens are generally referred to as the tesla tories

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

fuctifino posted:

I don't know what the Greens are like nationally, but in the handful of times I tried to get involved, local representation seemed to consist of shy tories, centrists and conspiracy theorists of all varieties. There are some local green campaigners here who also campaign against 5G and vaccines while spouting a hell of a lot of fash-aligned conspiracy bullshit. I just nope out each time and keep my distance.

Way back in 2015 I worked for the Greens turning their 3000+ disparate fundraising lists into 1 actually useful spreadsheet, to their credit they do recruit from members and pay everyone involved at any level the Living Wage as a bare minimum.

But as a national party they are utterly useless, the leadership are overpaid hobbyists with no interest in any meaningful change. Their response to the Corbyn movement was to piss away money on phone campaigns trying to stop young people deserting them for Labour, the leadership completely leant into the establishment antisemitism smears and honestly where have they even been for the last half-decade? Do they even still exist besides Lucas, doing her pointless Westminster thing?

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Yep. Labour are poo poo, Tories are fash poo poo, Greens are insane incompetent poo poo, lib Dems... Lol.

There are no good national choices. Vote for a local guy that is decent. If there isn't one, either vote labour because 15 percent less Tory is still 15 percent or stay home because it doesn't loving matter, everything is pretty much terrible and will continue to get worse, but at least we have each other.

Stay strong goons, it's going to be a bumpy few years. And house prices haven't even started to go insane again yet.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


smellmycheese posted:

Photo from Farages 60th birthday party



I hope I get reincarnated as that guy on the left

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Private ambulance service aims to reduce NHS waits

quote:

MET Medical operates in St Albans, Harpenden, Hatfield and Welwyn Garden City in Hertfordshire but hopes to expand to other areas.

It charges users £99 to call a healthcare professional to their home for urgent cases but does not privately attend emergencies such as strokes and heart attacks.

The Department of Health and Social Care said it was committed to expanding ambulance capacity in the NHS and improving response times.

MET Medical has been used as contractor for the health service and has responded to more than 10,000 emergency calls over the last 10 years.

Director Dave Hawkins said: "This isn't an emergency service, this is urgent care.

"This is for people that need urgent medical attention, so that would be people who might normally see a GP but the appointment is two weeks away, or it's a parent worried about their child and just wants them checked out."

He added the service could also prescribe antibiotics or deal with calls that are a lower priority for the NHS, such as elderly people who have suffered a fall.

He hoped the service would "free up more of the 999 service to deal with those emergencies" and reduce waiting times.

Sir Sidney Poitier
Aug 14, 2006

My favourite actor


quote:

might normally see a GP but the appointment is two weeks away

Is the article from 2016?

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Do a wicked sick kickflip entryism on the Greens

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

Clyde Radcliffe posted:

Zen have been around since the earliest days of UK broadband and still exist for a reason. I switched away a while back but as soon as I'm out of contract I'll be switching back. It's absolutely worth paying a few quid extra to have support who know what they're talking about instead of call centre minions working through a script.

I've been with Zen since Demon crapped out in 2008 (and we'd been with Demon since the late 90s), and never had any complaints. They even sent me a new router when I asked for one because I realised my ancient one was why RDR2 Online would crap out after an hour.

Starbucks
Jul 7, 2002

Your daily cup of fuck you.
Always joked that Uber Ambulance should be an option in the US and it actually would have a business case, a shame it might work here.

As for Greens, I feel it’s the last remaining national option other than Tories light until I can be bothered to create my own party called “Can you lot all get your poo poo together”.

Can’t see myself voting Labour, same Lib Dem, truthfully they are all cunts.

Conservative Party: Nasty Malthusian cunts.
Labour Party: Ineffective can't-make-socialism-work-so-abandon-it cunts.
Liberal Democrat Party: Sellout catamite cunts.
Green Party: Hippy cunts.
Reform: Racist and-trying-to-find-ways-to-justify-it cunts.
Official Monster Raving Loony Party: Moderate centrists.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
Agreed the greens aren't very well organised. But not something I'm really worried about when their current target for this election is 2 MPs.

I'm just happy to have a party I can vote for and not feel guilty over.

Private Speech posted:

They are kindof Tory-ish sometimes too, particular on affordable housing and such.

I still vote for them but it definitely takes a bit of teeth clenching when they proudly talk about stopping high-density social housing development in the area in their campaign leaflets.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68732007

The party nationally are for affordable high density housing, just not at the expense of the environment.

Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Apr 6, 2024

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


The official target is four seats but I don't think anybody realistically expects them to pick up anything other than Brighton and Bristol Central. The other two are Waveney Valley and North Herefordshire but... eh

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

sebzilla posted:

Bristol Central

Wtf that's me? Are you saying my vote... matters???

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Rarity posted:

Wtf that's me? Are you saying my vote... matters???

All right, don't rub it in.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Rarity posted:

Wtf that's me? Are you saying my vote... matters???

Yeah mate you can be responsible for punting Woah-oah Thangam Debonnaire into the harbour (metaphorically, on Minecraft)

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

sebzilla posted:

Yeah mate you can be responsible for punting Woah-oah Thangam Debonnaire into the harbour (metaphorically, on Minecraft)

Starbucks
Jul 7, 2002

Your daily cup of fuck you.
Looked up Bristol Central and it existed before and had this lovely lady there

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violet_Bathurst,_Lady_Apsley

quote:

She contested the Bristol North East seat between 1947 and 1951, opposing the creation of the National Health Service and other elements of the welfare state, but was not re-elected to Parliament

I am glad she wasn’t elected. Just shows what Tories would do if they could.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






My best guess at what Starmer would do in office is try to govern as if this was a continuation of the Blair government except with total incompetents in charge.

Specifically I think this would look like:
* No independent foreign policy. Follow the US lead whatever that is from time to time. Bomb who they bomb, shun who they shun etc.
* Increase public spending (people here tend to talk as if the Blair government cut spending: it actually rose from about £400m in 1997 to about £750M in 2013 in real terms, i.e. after inflation, then very slowly fell until 2018 or so). Source
* Mostly avoid culture wars; when forced to take a view, try to be in line with the general public, who are slightly conservative.
* Be quite authoritarian. Promote and support the police, expand monitoring, default to any position that gives the state more information and control relative to the individual citizen….

…Just handled by people who are completely broke-brained by social media, who have never lived in a world where they had to interact with physical reality and who are governing a much poorer country with a lot fewer levers to pull on to change things.

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killerwhat
May 13, 2010

Starbucks posted:

Looked up Bristol Central and it existed before and had this lovely lady there

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violet_Bathurst,_Lady_Apsley

I am glad she wasn’t elected. Just shows what Tories would do if they could.

Changing my name to Violet Bathurst :black101:

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