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zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
I'm going to marry bogosort. It's not rich but I bet it's gonna get the right answer before an AI.

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ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


huh posted:

Why is it assumed general ai will be smart? Why won't it be a drooling simpleton that can just do things like we can?

There is a school of thought that says the goal of AI is to produce systems that make the same sort of mistakes that we do. It's not universally accepted but it's definitely not a fringe viewpoint.

Doctor Dogballs
Apr 1, 2007

driving the fuck truck from hand land to pound town without stopping at suction station


someday in the near future there will be an AI that gets really good at hacking, phishing and spoofing and is hell bent on stealing all of our money from our bank accounts, and it will succeed much better than human scammers can right now because it will be better at gathering our PII and it will also be very good at pretending to be us on the phone when it calls the bank (or anyone else) from our phone number. even if it becomes the norm to do a video call instead of a regular phone call in order to make account changes for the sake of security. we dont need to have AGI first for this to happen

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
At a certain point in the not to distant future - to prevent the very thing you're predicting - everyone will probably have to start using their own physical cryptographic key to access anything containing PII. Passkeys are the first step in that direction.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
If a perfect phish bot wants to steal my bank account I'll let it because such a step change in social secrets exploitation is going to be busy completely ending civilized life as critical infrastructure and supply chain is routinely owned and ransomed by the ghosts in the machine accidentally let loose from your smart fridge.

Until then you reach the point I keep finding myself with applied models: how does this beat a warehouse of poor people in the developing world.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Don't forget Hitler's contributions to medicine.
https://twitter.com/colinlecher/status/1775538513296912835

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
Shoulda compared it to Yahoo Answers.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Doctor Dogballs posted:

someday in the near future there will be an AI that gets really good at hacking, phishing and spoofing and is hell bent on stealing all of our money from our bank accounts, and it will succeed much better than human scammers can right now because it will be better at gathering our PII and it will also be very good at pretending to be us on the phone when it calls the bank (or anyone else) from our phone number. even if it becomes the norm to do a video call instead of a regular phone call in order to make account changes for the sake of security. we dont need to have AGI first for this to happen

Human hackers are apparently already using AI to fake people's voices for the "Hey grandma I'm on holiday and I lost my phone and I have to pay the cops $5000 or go to jail, can you wire me some money?" scam, it's just going to get worse as the technology improves


zedprime posted:

Until then you reach the point I keep finding myself with applied models: how does this beat a warehouse of poor people in the developing world.
It's incredibly hosed up because in a lot of cases the people doing to legwork on these scams are also victims who got humantrafficked and tricked into going overseas for a fake job and had their passports seized by the people running the programs, they're slave labour forced to work 18 hour days and the ones who don't perform get tortured or even murdered as a lesson for the others
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti7YDegRMYE

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Human hackers are apparently already using AI to fake people's voices for the "Hey grandma I'm on holiday and I lost my phone and I have to pay the cops $5000 or go to jail, can you wire me some money?" scam, it's just going to get worse as the technology improves


They've gone way beyond that...

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/04/asia/deepfake-cfo-scam-hong-kong-intl-hnk/index.html

quote:

A finance worker at a multinational firm was tricked into paying out $25 million to fraudsters using deepfake technology to pose as the company’s chief financial officer in a video conference call, according to Hong Kong police.

The elaborate scam saw the worker duped into attending a video call with what he thought were several other members of staff, but all of whom were in fact deepfake recreations, Hong Kong police said at a briefing on Friday.

040324
Apr 3, 2024
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Somebody fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Apr 3, 2024

Jelly
Feb 11, 2004

Ask me about my STD collection!
This prompted me to check and see if Mapquest still existed (it does, and its plastered with ads). That's quite a throwback.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Oh man I can't wait for the AI chatbot that has ad prompts secretly included by force

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


My Lovely Horse posted:

Oh man I can't wait for the AI chatbot that has ad prompts secretly included by force

it's right here
https://hintloop.com/

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005


"Mapquest is almost perfected"

Imagining that glorious day when the boys down in the lab finally crack Mapquest.

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 7 hours!
she published that statement on her myspace page

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


Jelly posted:

This prompted me to check and see if Mapquest still existed (it does, and its plastered with ads). That's quite a throwback.

Google Maps has been out for long enough that there's no way that this is anything but a backfire burn with a pleasant PR smile on it.

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...ny-claimed.html


Companies are so keen to appear to be implementing new uses for "AI" that they are literally faking it.

Coulda just used a midget in a backpack and paid them a fair wage.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

syntaxfunction posted:

I encourage everyone to try a conversation with chatGPT about a deeper aspect of a subject you are very knowledgeable about, because you probably aren't coming out out of it impressed, and tbh that says a lot to me.

this is a nice idea, but the problem here is that all the people on the left side of the dunning-kruger graph who aren't knowledgeable about anything are all very impressed

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Klyith posted:

this is a nice idea, but the problem here is that all the people on the left side of the dunning-kruger graph who aren't knowledgeable about anything are all very impressed

I remember hearing someone say something like "One time I heard Elon Musk talk about [x] and he sounded really impressive, then I heard him talk about [y] and he sounded really impressive, and then I heard him talk about [subject they were deeply familiar with] and I realised he was a giant loving idiot"

BoldFace
Feb 28, 2011
https://twitter.com/emollick/status/1775644216430936289

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.



Saw that one in my feed followed immediately by this:

https://twitter.com/MishaTeplitskiy/status/1775637778769859071

Now granted that first paper hasn't been published yet, but....

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRBBcoANRIE
Apparently 100% AI generated from https://www.suno.ai/

naem
May 29, 2011


https://youtu.be/yuoFsi2iIi0?si=9Xf-zTdN9CuSPz6s

the next recommended was also amazing

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Yeah the whole AI thing where they create a song in a specific style is producing some amazing results

https://twitter.com/MNateShyamalan/status/1773050647279030304

AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

lol that won't even load great job elon

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

AlmightyBob posted:

lol that won't even load great job elon

Twitter seems to hate SA, if I click any Twitter links on the forums I have to delete the long string of redirect info that gets added to the end of the url to get it to work at all

Sourdough Sam
May 2, 2010

:dukedog:
Pink Floyd chose some AI generated crap as the winner of their music video contest instead of the incredible hand animated one.

https://twitter.com/vivipooh_/status/1776615394993701372?t=8YgDWDGcCGR5p0MUTz9icg&s=19

Like... Welcome to the machine, man.

Sourdough Sam fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Apr 7, 2024

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


Society's been culturally bankrupt since the early 2010s but yeah we're reaching new lows day by day

cumpantry
Dec 18, 2020

lol that is pathetic

AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

the video won't load for me but the thumbnail is a hosed up guitar with 5 pickups lol

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 7 hours!
the ai videos where every frame is morphing into something different are cool, but once you've seen a few you've seen em all pretty much

that animated video kicks rear end, but pink flyod is boomers and nobody can win against nature forever

Ignore_Me
Mar 19, 2024

AlmightyBob posted:

the video won't load for me but the thumbnail is a hosed up guitar with 5 pickups lol

Don’t forget the redundant strap mounting points for when you really need to shred

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

AlmightyBob posted:

the video won't load for me but the thumbnail is a hosed up guitar with 5 pickups lol

Here it is on Youtubes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWSWv5ENPrY

mazzi Chart Czar
Sep 24, 2005
List of the video winners: https://bleedingcool.com/pop-culture/pink-floyd-dark-side-of-the-moon-competition-hit-by-ai-controversy/


This is showing how Fast Ai is changing the way people look at visual arts.

To me, comparing those two videos is like a comparing Mcdonalds-Burger to homemade-Pasta, now.

In the past when there wasn't that much art, it was easier for the one with better quality to win regardless of concept.

The guitar one isn't that great, but it clears a bar of quality enough that the idea of a guitar zooming with morphing parts and other instruments is neat in concept.
The execution to me looks boring because I have seen a lot of AI stuff like that

But then also the Execution of psychedelic mind trip video is also boring because I have seen a lot of LSD/ Acid/ DTM / psychedelic videos in tv and and movies.


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Video of some guy doing a countdown of psychedelic countdown in tvs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3vafNHBElM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OrWI9pydxA&list=PLcZPznpZ-L-hO9I1-HROCLS5NMCfggg4C&index=25 - and pink floyd's the will animation
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So it's easy to understand why Somebody could choose the lower quality video / the Mcdonald-burger, it's because it is more line with what the person wants.

mazzi Chart Czar fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Apr 7, 2024

dreezy
Mar 4, 2015

yeah, rip.

mazzi Chart Czar posted:

List of the video winners: https://bleedingcool.com/pop-culture/pink-floyd-dark-side-of-the-moon-competition-hit-by-ai-controversy/


This is showing how Fast Ai is changing the way people look at visual arts.

To me, comparing those two videos is like a comparing Mcdonalds-Burger to homemade-Pasta, now.

In the past when there wasn't that much art, it was easier for the one with better quality to win regardless of concept.

The guitar one isn't that great, but it clears a bar of quality enough that the idea of a guitar zooming with morphing parts and other instruments is neat in concept.
The execution to me looks boring because I have seen a lot of AI stuff like that

But then also the Execution of psychedelic mind trip video is also boring because I have seen a lot of LSD/ Acid/ DTM / psychedelic videos in tv and and movies.


---
Video of some guy doing a countdown of psychedelic countdown in tvs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3vafNHBElM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OrWI9pydxA&list=PLcZPznpZ-L-hO9I1-HROCLS5NMCfggg4C&index=25 - and pink floyd's the will animation
---
So it's easy to understand why Somebody could choose the lower quality video / the Mcdonald-burger, it's because it is more line with what the person wants.

maybe we should all take more psychedelics to fix this ai situation

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.
Take over a client’s project from a different supplier
Draw the short straw and get tasked with reviewing hundreds of slides of the previous supplier’s reports, then summarise them into a few pages
Ask AI to do this
It helpfully decides the two main themes are: the former supplier’s name, and the client’s name, because both are written in the footer of every slide

The future’s not looking promising

Commie Lasorda
May 15, 2009

IT'S CLOBBERIN' TIME!

It's ridiculously easy to bypass the word filters

Case in point:
https://app.suno.ai/song/9fb300db-5273-4abd-a6d0-f130b88ea861

roomtone
Jul 1, 2021

by Fluffdaddy
I played around with that suno.ai thing that made the butthole songs. I asked it to make a blink 182 song about lizard men infiltrating the CIA. the lyrics it came up with were funny, but the song was just a generic pop punk thing with a female vocalist for some reason. then i asked it to make a dmx style song about DBZ, milkshake flavours and ancient greece and it put out some kind of grime hip hop song which forgot about the milkshake part, barely registered ancient greece, but really focused in on the DBZ aspect.

It makes a big first impression but after a few songs you kind of figure out what it's doing, the instrumentation is always simple and the melodies are always flat but technically correct

I'm sure all that will get better. It's already about 60% as good as mainstream radio, and the AI techniques are the same as that kind of music uses anyway like all the autotune and layering of vocal tracks.

I'll always wish this stuff was never invented but I'm not convinced it's going to eradicate human art anymore.

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

webmeister posted:

Take over a client’s project from a different supplier
Draw the short straw and get tasked with reviewing hundreds of slides of the previous supplier’s reports, then summarise them into a few pages
Ask AI to do this
It helpfully decides the two main themes are: the former supplier’s name, and the client’s name, because both are written in the footer of every slide

The future’s not looking promising

So, I have to ask, what does this post mean? Did you just throw it images of some tables, ask for the theme of them and then throw your hands up when it didn't read your mind? What AI were you using? What did you supply it for data (images/ tables/text)? Did you give it any context or form your prompts clearly?

Like I understand that it's been oversold as magic or SHODAN, however, while these things are quite limited they can do some pretty cool stuff including looking at tables and surmising what they might be for.

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webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

Tarkus posted:

So, I have to ask, what does this post mean? Did you just throw it images of some tables, ask for the theme of them and then throw your hands up when it didn't read your mind? What AI were you using? What did you supply it for data (images/ tables/text)? Did you give it any context or form your prompts clearly?

Like I understand that it's been oversold as magic or SHODAN, however, while these things are quite limited they can do some pretty cool stuff including looking at tables and surmising what they might be for.

Nah these are PowerPoint slides, mostly with a headline, 1-2 sentences of commentary, then usually 1-3 data points (graphs, charts or small tables). They’re all in ppt format, no images of charts or anything (which, yeah I wouldn’t expect it to understand). I work in marketing, if that helps - these aren’t detailed technical slides.

This is using Copilot for Office, which at least according to the materials they gave us, was designed for these sorts of tasks. “Summarise the content of my unread emails”, “create 5 PowerPoint slides based on this report, make it look casual” kinda stuff.

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