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The guy in question in my game was someone who took the DM having an NPC tell them no gently as some kind of personal attack.
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dwarf74 posted:rpg counseling session after every game. Oof, yeah, this poo poo sucks. I was in a similar situation as a player over a fair chunk of last year as another player got increasingly obviously unsatisfied with the game we were in and kept wanting me to sit there and listen for an hour or two afterward as he rehashed his problems again and again and again. The GM wasn't perfect and I was a latecomer to the group so I didn't really feel appropriate challenging him too much over it since he was there from the start, except for the general "talk to the GM, maybe work stuff out to address your concerns" sort of advice, and spitballing some stuff he could do in-game that sounded like what he wanted. The climax came less than a week before Christmas when he expected everyone to drop everything and address his complaints, and was incensed that everyone else was just busy and exhausted. People who demand that are so loving tiring.
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The second Lodoss War replay book got translated https://archive.org/details/comptiq-magazine-record-of-lodoss-war-2/page/n3/mode/2up
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Panzeh posted:The guy in question in my game was someone who took the DM having an NPC tell them no gently as some kind of personal attack. disposablewords posted:Oof, yeah, this poo poo sucks. I was in a similar situation as a player over a fair chunk of last year as another player got increasingly obviously unsatisfied with the game we were in and kept wanting me to sit there and listen for an hour or two afterward as he rehashed his problems again and again and again. The GM wasn't perfect and I was a latecomer to the group so I didn't really feel appropriate challenging him too much over it since he was there from the start, except for the general "talk to the GM, maybe work stuff out to address your concerns" sort of advice, and spitballing some stuff he could do in-game that sounded like what he wanted. The climax came less than a week before Christmas when he expected everyone to drop everything and address his complaints, and was incensed that everyone else was just busy and exhausted.
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Plutonis posted:The second Lodoss War replay book got translated This owns. Thanks!
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dwarf74 posted:Yeah. I was totally expecting his dude would get killed off when he wandered off on his own. It didn't happen. I am 90%+ convinced he would have gotten very upset at that if that had actually happened. It sucks to even have to have had a second conversation. Couldn't see why bailing without a word was lovely and couldn't comprehend that it was a team game. What a mess.
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PuttyKnife posted:This owns. Thanks! I swear to god I posted the first one on this thread too but can't find it either
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Plutonis posted:I swear to god I posted the first one on this thread too but can't find it either If you scroll down on the archive post, it’s linked. Here: https://archive.org/details/record-of-lodoss-war-comptiq-magazine-english-translation
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Doc Hawkins posted:Magazines: The Original Podcasts? I do wonder why replays and novelizations of those weren't a thing on western tabletop mags.
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Plutonis posted:I do wonder why replays and novelizations of those weren't a thing on western tabletop mags. Weren't a bunch of the official books based on the authors' campaigns? Ed Greenwood's self-insert powerful wizard character was surely his PC? Plus, maybe, the tradition of Light Novels aided it - western pulps are probably the equivalent and had largely burned out by the time D&D got popular.
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Weren't the Dragonlance novels basically replays of Weis & Hickman's home game? ...at least the first one or two anyway, until the novels kinda overtook the tabletop campaign
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The original Dragonlance Campaign let you play the same scenarios as the original novel trilogy but I'm unsure which came first. But Dragonlance has always been a fiction heavy campaign setting. I don't think Weis or Hickman had a home game.
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Kwyndig posted:The original Dragonlance Campaign let you play the same scenarios as the original novel trilogy but I'm unsure which came first. But Dragonlance has always been a fiction heavy campaign setting. I don't think Weis or Hickman had a home game. Entirely possible I'm misremembering and the novels were just a tie-in to the published campaign (or possibly vice versa, or possibly started as one then turned into the other as the books overtook the campaign). I swear I remember hearing that Raistlin's whole deal was because his player rolled a really poo poo constitution score when they made the character and roleplayed it well, though
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Asterite34 posted:Weren't the Dragonlance novels basically replays of Weis & Hickman's home game? I'm quite sure all the main characters of the first books were PCs in their home campaign. ------- Searching around, I think it went like this: 1) idea for the setting to be published. 2) home campaign testing the setting. 3) later, books based on that campaign. YggdrasilTM fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Apr 7, 2024 |
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They didn't even know each other before working on it.
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There may have been a home campaign, but it didn't belong to Weis and Hickman. They're authors, not dungeon masters.
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Kwyndig posted:There may have been a home campaign, but it didn't belong to Weis and Hickman. They're authors, not dungeon masters. There was 100% a home campaign, run using the modules, or what became them. It's noted in the original afterword of the first dragonlance book that Raistlin's voice is as it is in the books because that's the voice the player gave them. Weis and Hickman were likely players, not the ones running it, though. edit: I am actually incorrect, Weis and Hickman also wrote the modules, as a campaign. Then they ran them and novelized them. Terry Phillips was Raistlin's player, and was responsible for both the voice and the caustic wit, such as it was, and constant sarcasm.
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One funny bit about the DL translation from home campaign to module is that Raistlin’s Constitution got boosted to 10 - average, but not at level of “consumptive Victorian orphan”, i.e. how Raistlin is usually depicted. It’s because the modules get insanely protective of the pregen Heroes (to the point that GMs are specifically told to use any excuse to keeps PCs alive and active outside of climactic battles). They didn’t want the HP penalties of low Con to put the mage at risk of getting murked before the end of Act 1. I sort of understand, but it seems a shame to make a module about a prewritten story without allowing players at their table to diverge wildly from the narrative. Gatto Grigio fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Apr 9, 2024 |
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Gatto Grigio posted:
Welcome to rpg writing circa 1985-2016 or whenever it finally takes people to give up on the idea of metaplot. Would you like a wod or l5r followup
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Gatto Grigio posted:I sort of understand, but it seems a shame to make a module about a prewritten story without allowing players at their table to diverge wildly from the narrative. That’s a big part of why Dragonlance is so hated in “old-school” circles. (That, and the shift in inspirations from pulp fantasy with some Tolkien elements to Tolkien through the lens of Terry Brooks. Arguably these are related; the assumption that PCs should be Heroes Saving the World tends to push module writers towards more linear narrative structures.)
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Mister Olympus posted:Welcome to rpg writing circa 1985-2016 or whenever it finally takes people to give up on the idea of metaplot. Would you like a wod or l5r followup I would say people have mostly given up on the idea of metaplot by now. I guess Pathfinder still has a watered-down form of it, but I can’t think of a current game that imitates the excesses of oWoD or 7th Sea 1e. D&D 5e still has Elminster and Drizzt, but there’s no real metaplot because WotC has become too lazy to supplement treadmill properly.
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Silver2195 posted:I would say people have mostly given up on the idea of metaplot by now. I guess Pathfinder still has a watered-down form of it, but I can’t think of a current game that imitates the excesses of oWoD or 7th Sea 1e. D&D 5e still has Elminster and Drizzt, but there’s no real metaplot because WotC has become too lazy to supplement treadmill properly. Depends on how big and how current of a game you're looking for - as documented at length over in F&F, Degenesis was still doing old WoD style hard railroad metaplot as late as 2018 or so. That's the last of the "big" projects I can think of offhand that did it, though.
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Speaking of the Fatal & Friends writeups, I’m reading the one on Wizards Presents: Races and Classes, and it’s remarkable how insistent the 4e designers were on making playable races conventionally attractive-looking. It’s overt to a degree that would definitely cause some controversy if it was written today. For example, we’re told that female dwarves are “strong, sensual, earthy, and feminine, with an exotic beauty that no one would think to splash a beard on,” and that male elves are “not effeminate.”
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kind of funny when you go and look how it actually turned out "male elf, not effeminate" "got it, elf with male pattern balding"
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We must return the one ring to the fires of Mt Doom where it was birthed, Mr. Anderson.
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Man that really reads like someone had a chip on their shoulder about some old stereotype jokes.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:kind of funny when you go and look how it actually turned out My "male elf, not effeminate" character sheet is raising some questions already answered on my character sheet
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Melf N'Feminate is my new Greyhawk revival character
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"Splash a beard" definitely sounds like something you'd hear more in the Dwarven gay scene anyway.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:"male elf, not effeminate" write a one sentence tragedy challenge (fantasy edition)
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Male elf? Not! Effeminate!
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:kind of funny when you go and look how it actually turned out
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Runa posted:write a one sentence tragedy challenge (fantasy edition) "LFG: kender rogue."
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mellonbread posted:Post him 
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That's a widow's peak, totally different!
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Pam: “They’re the same picture.”
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