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I caught the Zander at the last minute and got the WHEEL OF FORTUNE which granted me a jail
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Sandwolf posted:D1: Fishing Spot E Hmm.
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Apr 11, 2024 02:45
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Sandwolf posted:D1: Fishing Spot E D2 is an incredibly tiny Zander
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Apr 11, 2024 03:52
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Hal Incandenza posted:D2 is an incredibly tiny Zander Yet look at my winning fish on D3!
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Apr 11, 2024 04:33
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Sandwolf posted:Yet look at my winning fish on D3! Why did you try E again D3?
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Apr 11, 2024 04:47
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Shwinn claiming to have forgotten to doc is weird. Did we have both Watch and Track claims out already for that previous night? Like...if scum, why not just claim you self-doc'd? And scum theoretically would've been reasonably-likely to try and remind / act for each other, if possible, so a "no action" seems strange. And we know that it was CloBeet (and Sand) who actually did the kills N1, so that's not really a reason to have no-acted.
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Apr 11, 2024 05:13
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Tired Moritz posted:I got the Xander and got a jail that I didn't use why
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Apr 11, 2024 05:20
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CubicalSucrose posted:Shwinn claiming to have forgotten to doc is weird. Did we have both Watch and Track claims out already for that previous night? Yeah, pretty much why I think that was real if also really dumb. It's not something that makes any sense to fake. But it's also nonindicative, I think, unless we want to take it as an indication of the person who subbed out being absent.
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Apr 11, 2024 05:24
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Shellception posted:Plas, Moritz, Hal, you mind claiming if you got a D1 prize (no need to say what it was, it's kinda irrelevant) and what fish did you earn it with? If you already did, mind doing it again? I'm not wanting to dig up all of that. Still want Moritz and Hal to elaborate in here.
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Apr 11, 2024 05:27
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CubicalSucrose posted:Sand - WHERE did you fish previous days and why? Also, what's your special thing? I'm rather sure spreadsheeting D1 would, if not solve the game, at least tell us where the remaining scum that night is - in the group of no action havers that night (Plas, TMor, Hal still alive) or in the group of action havers (You, me, Sand, binus). There are a couple puzzle pieces unaccounted for still there. Up to you all if you want to give a bunch of data or prefer to do it the old mafia way.
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Apr 11, 2024 06:16
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Hal Incandenza posted:D2 is an incredibly tiny Zander dude don't zandershame
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Apr 11, 2024 06:18
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Shellception posted:Still want Moritz and Hal to elaborate in here. I got nothing from my N1 fishies
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Apr 11, 2024 07:07
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Shellception posted:Yeah, pretty much why I think that was real if also really dumb. It's not something that makes any sense to fake. But it's also nonindicative, I think, unless we want to take it as an indication of the person who subbed out being absent. Agreed that schwinn really was telling the truth and forgot to doc, but I do also think that scum would be a bit more likely to forget to use that power
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Apr 11, 2024 07:09
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Hal Incandenza posted:I got nothing from my N1 fishies What did you have?
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Apr 11, 2024 07:10
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Have we not caught all scum because of successful night actions? Why do I want to stop someone from doing their actions
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Apr 11, 2024 07:37
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Tired Moritz posted:Have we not caught all scum because of successful night actions? Why do I want to stop someone from doing their actions I mean, the primary accusation today is being done on the basis of "roleblocked Sand and there was no NK"...
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Apr 11, 2024 08:08
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Sounds like me jailing someone could have hosed things up. Good job, me!
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Apr 11, 2024 08:21
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Tired Moritz posted:Sounds like me jailing someone could have hosed things up. Good job, me! So, on the basis of that, who do you wanna vote?
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Apr 11, 2024 08:25
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Also D1 fish and prize please?
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Apr 11, 2024 08:36
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Shellception posted:So, on the basis of that, who do you wanna vote? I'm down with the Sandwolf vote. I think Sand needed some cred after susing cube and Zoya clearly was checked out/got caught in a lie.
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Apr 11, 2024 10:24
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Shellception posted:Also D1 fish and prize please? I submitted two salmons and got nothing at all
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Apr 11, 2024 10:25
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Tired Moritz posted:I submitted two salmons and got nothing at all Interesting. Thank you.
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Apr 11, 2024 10:57
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I still need the species of the two fish Hal submitted and won nothing. Also, I'm not sure I have something but I might have something... though this looks a bit more complex to untangle, not going to lie.
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Apr 11, 2024 11:58
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I can't spreadsheet on mobile, which sucks.
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Apr 11, 2024 12:00
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Shellception posted:I still need the species of the two fish Hal submitted and won nothing. 266g Roach and 3862g Salmon
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Apr 11, 2024 12:15
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Ok so, let's see if this tracks - I have a big spreadsheet but I'd like to simplify, if possible. Turns out there are four missing fish D1, and not three like we thought there was. Whitefish - assumed Meen (was used to mason me but used died) Pike Zander Second Place Salmon This means that, regardless what Opop had, and regardless what Zoya had (I assume she did lie about her fish, but she claimed No Prize Zander and Perch), there forcibly is one more fish missing. Which in turn means that people who had a fish, no matter if they used it or not (looking at shwinbinus) can't be lying because that generates a situation where there are two liars, them and the person who got what they claimed. Which in turn, unless I am wrong somewhere,i means the liar is again corralled between Plastic, Hal, Tmor. Cube? Or anyone? Thoughts?
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Apr 11, 2024 12:38
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There had to be a Second Place Salmon for TMor and Hal to both not win. But if Zoya or Opop had it, then who had the missing either Zander or Pike?
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Apr 11, 2024 12:42
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There is a single combination that I can see that results in both TMor and Hal telling the truth: that is, if Opop had a Zander and Zoya had a Second Prize Salmon (or viceversa, but Hal's claim is that she stole a Salmon). In this case, the liar could be either one of them or Plastic, since the First Prize Pike is missing. All other combos I've tried end up with either conflict between Hal and TMor, or with a situation where all three tell the truth BUT one fish is unaccounted for.
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Apr 11, 2024 12:55
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List of claims for ease of checking: King of the Lake: 15224g - Sandwolf (shot Opop) Goldfish 1410g - Shell (fishcopped Beet: no first prizes, sausages as second prize) Salmon 6182g - shwinn (forgot to use) Roach 734g - Cube (watched meen and saw beet visit) Pike 1497g - unclaimed Perch 487g - Maer (roleblock Zoya, success) Whitefish 377g - unclaimed, but pretty probably Meen (masoned me, successful but partner dead) Zander 1476g - unclaimed Beet: Second Prize Roach (confirmed by Goldfish) Plas: Second Prize Pike Hal: No Prize Salmon and Roach TMor: No Prize Salmon and Salmon Zoya: No Prize Zander and Perch (pretty probably a lie) One of Iggy or Opop either had an unclaimed Second Prize Salmon or the First Prize Pike/Zander.
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Apr 11, 2024 13:00
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Aside to all that I kinda want to vote TMor and reassess tomorrow if wrong. We should have three shots still. And tbf neither him not using the jail nor his fish claim fill me with confidence.
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Apr 11, 2024 14:16
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Shellception posted:Aside to all that I kinda want to vote TMor and reassess tomorrow if wrong. We should have three shots still. Why would scum tm take no action last night? It doesn’t make any sense. Even if scum tm decided to withhold a kill, why would they choose not to use the jail? Tm has to be town. Lunch sandwolf today and the game will hopefully end
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Apr 11, 2024 15:51
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b-minus1 posted:Why would scum tm take no action last night? It doesn’t make any sense. Even if scum tm decided to withhold a kill, why would they choose not to use the jail? Tm has to be town. Because he did not withold but tried and failed to do the kill, for example?
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Apr 11, 2024 15:55
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I'm gonna sit on my logic for now - to me there is something that doesn't match on the D1 fish results and that points to a narrow pool of people. Either one chose to lie for the lol or one chose to lie because they're scum and I know which alternative I believe more.
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Apr 11, 2024 16:01
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Honestly I think occam's razor is just Zoya lying repeatedly on D1-D2.
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Apr 11, 2024 16:09
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PlasticAutomaton posted:Honestly I think occam's razor is just Zoya lying repeatedly on D1-D2. Yes. I assume Zoya lied D1. But Zoya lying doesn't fully explain it. Four fish are missing. If Meen had a fish, Opop had a fish, and Zoya lied and had a fish, there is still one more person who had a fish and isn't saying so.
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Apr 11, 2024 16:22
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Er, a first or second prize fish. I assume everyone had fish. Frankly I think Zoya won the Second Prize Salmon with the one stolen from Opop, just because it fits and explains the absence of the second salmon. Which means Opop had one of Pike/Zander, where is the other then?
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Apr 11, 2024 16:25
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Shellception posted:Er, a first or second prize fish. I assume everyone had fish. Warg, Mafia edit.
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Apr 11, 2024 16:31
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I will try and review this today when I have time to think thorough properly.
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Apr 11, 2024 16:46
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CubicalSucrose posted:I will try and review this today when I have time to think thorough properly. Please do.
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PlasticAutomaton posted:Honestly I think occam's razor is just Zoya lying repeatedly on D1-D2. b-minus1 posted:Lunch sandwolf today and the game will hopefully end Tired Moritz posted:I'm down with the Sandwolf vote. I think Sand needed some cred after susing cube and Zoya clearly was checked out/got caught in a lie. At least one of you is town and should feel bad for this brainless “foot-off-the-pedal” poo poo. Do better!!
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