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watho posted:i think they instead should have adapted fallout new vegas with mark wahlberg as the courier and mila kunis as mr house  What's Michael Bay doing at the moment?
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tango alpha delta posted:All you need to do is wait for the inevitable Family Guy Fallout episode. This is worse than that time I killed those talking deathclaws
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tango alpha delta posted:lol, im starting to think you haven’t actually watched the show because it absolutely nails the Fallout 3/4 vibe. I don't think you understood what I meant. What I'm talking about is the sense of geographical space and of experiencing a journey. There's no sense of where places relate to each other, nor of the time and harships encountered while traveling, only a bunch of panning shots before the plot contrives another meeting between the principal cast members. It's more last season of Game of Thrones than a Bethesda title in that way. But, as I said, there's a lot of the same *iconography* and designs, yes, the prop department nailed it and even included the Fallout 1 10mm gun, which was cool.
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tango alpha delta posted:All you need to do is wait for the inevitable Family Guy Fallout episode. This is just like that time I performed brain surgery on Julius Caesar!
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Oh god why did I decide to put Seth MacFarlane brain in rex, there was so many other options!
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:I don't think you understood what I meant. What I'm talking about is the sense of geographical space and of experiencing a journey. There's no sense of where places relate to each other, nor of the time and harships encountered while traveling, only a bunch of panning shots before the plot contrives another meeting between the principal cast members. It's lore accurate to Fallout 1 and 2 where travelling from Shady Sands to boneyard took 30 seconds IRL and is dependent on your framerate
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dr_rat posted:Oh god why did I decide to put Seth MacFarlane brain in rex, their was so many other options! This is cruel and unusual punishment for Rex.
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dr_rat posted:Oh god why did I decide to put Seth MacFarlane brain in rex, there was so many other options! Great, now he won't stop barking out showtunes
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esquilax posted:It's lore accurate to Fallout 1 and 2 where travelling from Shady Sands to boneyard took 30 seconds IRL and is dependent on your framerate There was even the occasional random encounter!
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:I don't think you understood what I meant. What I'm talking about is the sense of geographical space and of experiencing a journey. There's no sense of where places relate to each other, nor of the time and harships encountered while traveling, only a bunch of panning shots before the plot contrives another meeting between the principal cast members. Walking, or exploring is a huge part of the games but it doesn’t really translate well to a tv show. And lol at comparing it to season 8. You can actually tell what’s happening in every single shot in Fallout, unlike whatever the hell the last season of GOT was.
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I mean, we've had a very recent example of a TV show based on a videogame property that managed to convey a sense of place and journey and the passage of time quite well (The Last of Us), so I'm not persuaded that the production team simply hit the limits of the medium. Besides, if you take out Bethesda's weird storytelling instincts (Fallout the TV show's bad in a very specific way that isn't the way Bethesda is bad at telling stories, you can tell because, for example, a lot of the dialogue is competent to good) and the sense of place, what is left of their take on Fallout? Ultra-violence and some visual designs?
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Adventure shows and particularly movies often have quite a bit of trouble showing distances travailed and time past. The most usual way is just showing people have dirtier clothes and grow a beard. I can only think of a few shows and movies that have actually done it well. Books are far better at it.
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Arc Hammer posted:It's bad in the way most modern TV is bad, I agree, but what do you mean specifically?
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Some gamers have recognized the true flaw in the TV show, which is real human anatomy: https://twitter.com/GameCharacterAI/status/1778300445821219189
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Gamers are the worst. lol.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Some gamers have recognized the true flaw in the TV show, which is real human anatomy: I take it back, if it got this one person mad, the show is good.
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The horrifying realization you won't be able to download your sex mods for the TV show
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steinrokkan posted:The horrifying realization you won't be able to download your sex mods for the TV show Wait like... five years?
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:I mean, we've had a very recent example of a TV show based on a videogame property that managed to convey a sense of place and journey and the passage of time quite well (The Last of Us), so I'm not persuaded that the production team simply hit the limits of the medium. Besides, if you take out Bethesda's weird storytelling instincts (Fallout the TV show's bad in a very specific way that isn't the way Bethesda is bad at telling stories, you can tell because, for example, a lot of the dialogue is competent to good) and the sense of place, what is left of their take on Fallout? Ultra-violence and some visual designs? I’m pretty certain you haven’t watched the show because the vertibird scenes coupled with the long overhead shots of characters trudging over miles of desert give a pretty amazing sense of scale of the Wasteland.
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NotNut posted:I agree, but what do you mean specifically? Quoting myself from the other week in the TVIV thread: Arc Hammer posted:If this show turns out to be bad I expect it'll be bad in the way most modern 8-12 episode season shows are bad, not because the showrunners dont understand fallout. Poorly prioritized storytelling, obnoxious cliffhanger episode endings, inexplicable filler episodes despite having a limited runtime, and a structural split between telling a tight, cohesive narrative and wanting to explore a broad canvas of all the franchise iconography and "stuff". There's definitely structural issues with some episodes, getting sidetracked and then hurrying to push everything together in the last act to pull out a climax. This is the same thing that affects most modern TV that doesn't make the best use of its alloted episode count. Some shows pull it off better than others. Fallout TV is somewhere in the middle.
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tango alpha delta posted:I’m pretty certain you haven’t watched the show because the vertibird scenes coupled with the long overhead shots of characters trudging over miles of desert give a pretty amazing sense of scale of the Wasteland. I don't know what to tell you dude, except that I have, and that your shtick of accusing me of not having watched the show is kind of annoying, lmao.
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tango alpha delta posted:All you need to do is wait for the inevitable Family Guy Fallout episode. That's Fallout 2
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Lol the fallout TV show is good, but it’s no last of us or Arcane. I can see why people have problems with the show, I don’t see a problem with that poster’s complaints.
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Flamewar... Flamewar never changes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D_C0gNjaiw Tim's got words
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Unfortunately he doesn't talk about the TV show much. It's mostly about how much he enjoys going to big Hollywood premieres.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Unfortunately he doesn't talk about the TV show much. It's mostly about how much he enjoys going to big Hollywood premieres. And a
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:I don't know what to tell you dude, except that I have, and that your shtick of accusing me of not having watched the show is kind of annoying, lmao. There are long shots and wide shots that show the scope of the Wasteland in the show, so I don’t understand how you couldn’t have a sense of scale. E: you also seem to be trying to engage this show like it’s The Sopranos or Breaking Bad or The Wire. Fallout is none of these shows, but it’s a really good Fallout TV show. tango alpha delta fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Apr 12, 2024 |
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sense of place, deeper meaning, mystery box, iconography, yadda yadda yadda *my head is crushed by a power fist while vault boy gives the thumbs up* the most offensive thing to me so far is that they presumably paid idiot clown Michael Rappaport money to be in it
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Between this thread and the TV thread being full of people talking past each other I don't even want to write up my full thoughts anymore if its just going to be met with arguments over niggling details and accusations. This poo poo is exhausting. I like the show. The acting is good. Two of the plotlines are loving excellent. I don't like the way it portrays the NCR. New Vegas remains the best game in the series and one of the best games of all time. Peace, I'm out until anyone wants to have a chat about bastardized Hagelian Dialectics and autocratic rule.
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Arc Hammer posted:New Vegas remains the best game in the series and one of the best games of all time. I bought my Steamdeck just to play New Vegas.
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For the Steam Deck, does it need to be in desktop mode to play the game with mods?
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Arc Hammer posted:Peace, I'm out until anyone wants to have a chat about bastardized Hagelian Dialectics and autocratic rule. If you want to see the fate of democracies, watch Fallout (2024).
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A question about the tv show: Am I supposed to like/empathise with Maximus, or just laugh at him?
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Pwnstar posted:A question about the tv show: Am I supposed to like/empathise with Maximus, or just laugh at him? So far I have just been laughing at him
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Pwnstar posted:A question about the tv show: Am I supposed to like/empathise with Maximus, or just laugh at him? He's pathetic and idealistic at the start of the story, and his arc involves (mostly) growing beyond that. So both really.
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Arc Hammer posted:Between this thread and the TV thread being full of people talking past each other I don't even want to write up my full thoughts anymore if its just going to be met with arguments over niggling details and accusations. This poo poo is exhausting. Caravan is cool
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Arc Hammer posted:Peace, I'm out until anyone wants to have a chat about bastardized Hagelian Dialectics and autocratic rule. House's spiel about 'calculations' regarding the Great War are considerably less impressive/outright lies, if the show so far is anything to go by. Also pre-war cryogenically frozen folks are a dime a dozen now, despite there being a whole vault experiment dedicated to whether or not the cryogenic freezing would work/could work over a long period of time - unless one can try to rationalise Vault 101 as a 'control group' to Vault 31's cryogenics - those in 31 knew they were going to be frozen, while those in 101 didn't know, making this the closest Vault-Tec has ever gotten to proper scientific rigor.
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The talk about post post apocalypse makes me wonder why no one’s done a prestige tv adaption of Canticle for Lebowitz yet
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FrancisFukyomama posted:The talk about post post apocalypse makes me wonder why no one’s done a prestige tv adaption of Canticle for Lebowitz yet bad news, this is it.
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