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Would it be unfair of me to say that this game probably has the worst escort missions in the history of video games?
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Apr 13, 2024 17:03
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Subjunctive posted:Ah, I thought it went back to you. I guess that’s only equipment?
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Apr 13, 2024 17:07
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Subjunctive posted:Ah, I thought it went back to you. I guess that’s only equipment? veni veni veni posted:Would it be unfair of me to say that this game probably has the worst escort missions in the history of video games?
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Apr 13, 2024 17:08
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Phlegmish posted:I still hunger for more beetles I think I gave you two? veni veni veni posted:Would it be unfair of me to say that this game probably has the worst escort missions in the history of video games? Yes because the first game exists. Anyway, is there any vital need for a preserved medusa head? I got one, then decided to see what happens if you gave it to the forgery guy and he gives you a regular medusa head while your preserved head is now decayed.
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Apr 13, 2024 17:09
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goddamn it I bought a new bow and sold my old one and then immediately talked to the elf right outside the armory and saw that he wants a bow and I can’t afford to buy one. maybe one will show up in a chest or off a mob
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Apr 13, 2024 17:13
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Subjunctive posted:goddamn it I bought a new bow and sold my old one and then immediately talked to the elf right outside the armory and saw that he wants a bow and I can’t afford to buy one. maybe one will show up in a chest or off a mob Switch your pawn to archer to get a new set of starting gear.
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Apr 13, 2024 17:22
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Phlegmish posted:I still hunger for more beetles This is probably another reason people love the corset on pawns. Corset weighs basically nothing compared to "real" armor. So even when your main pawn has more total capacity thanks to bugs+thew augment+1 carry ring? It is the corset fighters who have more free space.
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Apr 13, 2024 17:22
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7c Nickel posted:Switch your pawn to archer to get a new set of starting gear. !! great idea
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Apr 13, 2024 17:26
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Section Z posted:This is probably another reason people love the corset on pawns. Corset weighs basically nothing compared to "real" armor. So even when your main pawn has more total capacity thanks to bugs+thew augment+1 carry ring? It is the corset fighters who have more free space. Yeah, but almost all corset pawns are probably cheated, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had given themselves max carry capacity as well
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Apr 13, 2024 17:30
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veni veni veni posted:Would it be unfair of me to say that this game probably has the worst escort missions in the history of video games? The pathing is bad and the NPCs are slow, but there are games where both of those are a problem but also the NPC is far more frail and the enemies explicitly target them. So no, they're bad, but they're far from as bad as they could be. I have absolutely seen worse.
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Apr 13, 2024 17:48
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this game was alright but now that I’m using a greatsword and gave my pawn a cute plumed hat it’s getting much better
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Apr 13, 2024 17:50
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veni veni veni posted:Would it be unfair of me to say that this game probably has the worst escort missions in the history of video games? How many games let you just sling the escort over your shoulder and start running
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Apr 13, 2024 18:05
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:right if someone can make a base character with the same height/weight we can figure how many beetles it takes to hit the cap: It's around 75 to 80, I think. There's roughly 80 in the game, I have two left over, I bought a couple (unsure how many) and have installed a mod to check if there's any left on the map to collect to verify.
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Apr 13, 2024 18:21
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Schubalts posted:How many games let you just sling the escort over your shoulder and start running
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Apr 13, 2024 18:24
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I'm trying to do the one where you have to escort both the dwarf and his wife at the same loving time, which means no shortcuts. I just want to throw both of them in the ocean but alas there is no more ocean. The worst part is I have already escorted both of these fuckers to the exact same spot on different occasions. It's like a double dose of an already crappy mission. There's just so many layers of why the escort missions suck imo. First off there is nothing interesting about them it's literally just busywork. People need to get from point a to b with no context and little reward. The destinations are far, the rewards are low. But the worst part is how easy it is to lose track of NPCs. They are slow as gently caress and the trek is so long it's easy to just forget about them or they die to monsters. If they die their marker disappears and you have to just cross your fingers that you can find their body, or abandon the quest, then get them from the morgue and do it all over again. If you let them get too far behind they just walk back home (and usually just die along the way) Best case scenario for escort quests is wasting a ferrystone to get them there quickly for a reward that is far less valuable than a ferrystone.
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Apr 13, 2024 18:26
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veni veni veni posted:I'm trying to do the one where you have to escort both the dwarf and his wife at the same loving time, which means no shortcuts. I just want to throw both of them in the ocean but alas there is no more ocean. The worst part is I have already escorted both of these fuckers to the exact same spot on different occasions. It's like a double dose of an already crappy mission. I picked up the dwarf, ferrystoned to the camp and the wife was there when I loaded in.
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Apr 13, 2024 18:30
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veni veni veni posted:Would it be unfair of me to say that this game probably has the worst escort missions in the history of video games? Ferrystones being a thing (also the sphinx bottle) puts these amongst the least worst escort missions in the history of video games imho. They still suck because escort missions suck, but that's very much one of the most tolerable implementations.
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Apr 13, 2024 18:34
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No way, the escorts are real bad. Ferrystones are rare and sealing phial is one use. It feels bad to turn down someone, but it feels worse taking forever trying to get them to navigate or using a ferrystone to get 120 RC and some flowers. Oh, as long as someone is in "following" status, usually indicated by having a yellow diamond, they will go along when you ferrystones. Helpful to know on the volcanic Island evacuation quest as mentioned above.
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Apr 13, 2024 18:44
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Josuke Higashikata posted:I picked up the dwarf, ferrystoned to the camp and the wife was there when I loaded in. Oh thank god. I was gonna get back to that quest this evening and dreading it. They just could not navigate the changed terrain and were getting stuck constantly.
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Apr 13, 2024 18:50
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Hackan Slash posted:No way, the escorts are real bad. Ferrystones are rare and sealing phial is one use.
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Apr 13, 2024 18:52
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You can buy 1-2 ferrystones in most cities and I'm usually able to keep myself between 10-20 at all times just by buying them whenever I'm in the area. It's pretty easy to stay stocked on them ime
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Apr 13, 2024 18:56
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veni veni veni posted:I'm trying to do the one where you have to escort both the dwarf and his wife at the same loving time, which means no shortcuts. I just want to throw both of them in the ocean but alas there is no more ocean. The worst part is I have already escorted both of these fuckers to the exact same spot on different occasions. It's like a double dose of an already crappy mission. That one was extremely easy? Like, you had to walk there in the first place. Which meant clearing everything. All you are doing is walking back since all the monsters are dead. I sprinted most of the time and neither one got lost or stuck on anything either. e: in a game that has 0 respect for your time, that escort mission doesn't even break the top 10 CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Apr 13, 2024 |
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Apr 13, 2024 19:14
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I haven't used fluffy mod manager before - I was surprised that my mod setup carried over to my wife's profile so she's stuck with any custom difficulty tweaks I make. Is there an option to lock my settings to just me?
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Apr 13, 2024 20:23
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Tell her that's just how the game is
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Apr 13, 2024 20:27
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Deified Data posted:I haven't used fluffy mod manager before - I was surprised that my mod setup carried over to my wife's profile so she's stuck with any custom difficulty tweaks I make. Is there an option to lock my settings to just me? The mod managed modifies the game files, so if you two are going to be playing the same copy of the game so it's going to be modified in the same way. The best solution is probably for you to disable the mods after you're done, or teach her how to disable them.
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Apr 13, 2024 20:29
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Jack Trades posted:The mod managed modifies the game files, so if you two are going to be playing the same copy of the game so it's going to be modified in the same way. Okay, I suppose the menu makes it easy to disable on the fly so I'll just do that, thanks.
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Apr 13, 2024 20:32
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"Well my pawn clearly loves being a warrior. And she is the most popular she has ever been for hiring! Now it is my turn to be warrior! Okay, Gonna roar to attract these constant packs of wolves, and then charged swing them to death when they rush me, gonna be sweet" Every. loving. Wolfpack. Runs away in reaction to my aggro roars  Considering how often that ends up with them running in place with their head clipping inside of rocks in their rush to scatter, I can't decide if it is jank or the wolf AI running off of input read "We know you are charging a 360 swing, idiot" tactics. Wolves, lizards, and everything else LOVE sprinting past taunting pawn fighter/warrior towards my ranged classes. Yet enemies treat me taunting with aggro augments as "oooh, better stay away from that guy" 
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Apr 13, 2024 21:04
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Playing as a warrior I've never found the roar useful. It's not a forced target change so it's not good at it's job where if I just start shoulder checking and swinging enemies end up coming after me or eating a hit that puts them on the floor or sends them off a cliff. Aggro is fake just shoulder into skills or swings
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Apr 13, 2024 21:10
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veni veni veni posted:Would it be unfair of me to say that this game probably has the worst escort missions in the history of video games? I mean you could say it, but it would be really inaccurate, they're annoying but like people have said no other game lets you just fast travel them to the destination or carry them, they don't even have fail states if the person dies because you can just revive them!
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Apr 13, 2024 21:41
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I'm not sure I'd call them the worst, but they're some of the most pointless-feeling escorts I can remember encountering.
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Apr 13, 2024 21:42
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Broken Cog posted:I'm not sure I'd call them the worst, but they're some of the most pointless-feeling escorts I can remember encountering. ... which imho is another point in their favour. I'll take pointless/optional escort quest over required plot-critical escort quest any day.
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Apr 13, 2024 21:45
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I did 1 escort quest for elrond because it was the first one I saw and didn't get anything unique from it so I've declined all the other high affinity escort quests I've seen after that. are any of them worth doing?
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Apr 13, 2024 21:49
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The Ulrika one is just the coast road to Harve and results in a romance scene. Think that's the only one that had something special, but then I declined/failed some too.
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Apr 13, 2024 21:55
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FishMcCool posted:The Ulrika one is just the coast road to Harve and results in a romance scene. Think that's the only one that had something special, but then I declined/failed some too. And it's always right when I'm trying to stop off at my house to rest in the middle of doing something else and she's blocking the door.
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Apr 13, 2024 21:56
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veni veni veni posted:Would it be unfair of me to say that this game probably has the worst escort missions in the history of video games? I'd say you've lived a charmed life lol
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Apr 13, 2024 22:03
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Volte posted:She has asked me to do that same escort quest three separate times now, and I've done it every time. I'm not doing it again!! Only had it once and had the beach romance followup immediately afterwards. Clearly that didn't impress my Arisen because the game decided that elven princess was The Beloved (tm). I guess chatting up elven princess in the nip when encountering her at the hot spring on my only visit of the place sealed the deal.
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Apr 13, 2024 22:04
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Yeah i made out with Ulrika too but still got Eini as my beloved
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Apr 13, 2024 22:05
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I got tricked into escorting Elfdad at the Arbor after he approached me, spoke some Elvish that I didn't understand, and gave me a dialogue choice that I had no context for with options that I could not read. Fucker made me take him to a spot with a chimera and wouldn't complete the quest until I took it down (while also keeping him alive), which was quite difficult as a 2 Fighter group against a 4x hp chimera at level ~20.
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Apr 13, 2024 22:07
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Valdent posted:Playing as a warrior I've never found the roar useful. It's not a forced target change so it's not good at it's job where if I just start shoulder checking and swinging enemies end up coming after me or eating a hit that puts them on the floor or sends them off a cliff. Aggro is fake just shoulder into skills or swings Normally I hate being 'The aggro guy' but I like my pawns not being maimed  But if it does not even help I can be fully selfish guilt free!Probably the dumbest use of warrior, but I really want to see if I can get on something's shoulders to impale their skull with surging strike. *A few fights later* It does not, in fact, want to impale large monster heads even after they fall down  It does however, tempt me to keep it because it is 1,000% faster at wrecking fallen big goblins than the incredibly clunky Y button double swing finisher. My broke brain is also keeping Skyward swing instead of switching to "Clearly designed for dragon heart stabbing" Knoll breaker, because Skywarwd clips through the ground to crush golem ankles on the way up to bonk their arms.I am such a sucker for "In X wacky hitbox scenario, Y is great!". It is why I like high salamander, because it will warp down a 500 foot ledge or ladder to roast slimes hoping not being able to lock onto them means a free lunch.
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Apr 13, 2024 23:09
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lol what is going on with magic archer. they dropped it at the farthest edge of the world with no indication that's where you should go to get it, immediately hand you the maister skill the moment after you unlock it, and a bunch of its abilities just have no impact like they forgot to give them sound effects or hitstop. it's also way less agile than before because they deleted all its cool mobility stuff like dodge roll and double jump like regular archer
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Apr 13, 2024 23:28
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