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Stux posted:d4 shouldve made the legendaries purple or something instead of trying to keep the d3 color. having yellow rares, orange legendary and beige uniques is so awfu l lol I can understand why it happened but it truly sucks that you get like 20 options for the colour of your character's eyes and none for item labels
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MJBuddy posted:ARPGs don't have to be looters. It's a subgenre. Borderlands isn't an ARPG (or an AFPS or whatever nonsense). are we just using arpg to mean non turn based rpg's now? back in my day, arpg meant top down looters, hook ups were what you called the appliance guy to do, and gooning was just posting here
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Tonetta posted:are we just using arpg to mean non turn based rpg's now? Arpg is a loot centric game. Farm content for sweet loot. Action adventure is the story/setting centric RPG. Starting with like Zelda. There's crossover and that's totally ok. D4 has sweet rear end setting/music. Elden Ring has farmable armor that's way cool to wear.
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the problem is the genre name was made when something as generic as "action rpg" made sense as a counter to what most rpgs were. now we're at a point where unless you say turn based ppl assume real time and the name is so broadly applicable its been reused to umbrella way more games thant he original meaning and thusly, we must return to "diablo-like"
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Stux posted:the problem is the genre name was made when something as generic as "action rpg" made sense as a counter to what most rpgs were. now we're at a point where unless you say turn based ppl assume real time and the name is so broadly applicable its been reused to umbrella way more games thant he original meaning and thusly, we must return to "diablo-like" It's about equivalent to arguing about metal genres.
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you see, metal sub genres are important because it lets me know how much screaming will be in the song, which I would like little to none of
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Tonetta posted:you see, metal sub genres are important because it lets me know how much screaming will be in the song, which I would like little to none of Might I suggest this Taylor Swift album if you request little to no screaming?
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no, I hate her
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Tonetta posted:no, I hate her Hmm halestorm it is then.
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Stux posted:d4 shouldve made the legendaries purple or something instead of trying to keep the d3 color. having yellow rares, orange legendary and beige uniques is so awfu l lol In HDR I can't even tell the difference between Sacred and Ancestral, at least that issue is gone 100% legendary and unique should have been orange and purple or some poo poo though, not-color colors is dumb af adding more ornate borders between item types for color blind people would be cool too
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harrygomm posted:Forza Horizon 5, the newest ARPG from Microsoft Does Forza actually have car part drops with stats now? That sounds like it might be fun for a while.
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always fun to see an utterly clueless ideas guy come in and think they can challenge something everyone else already figured out years ago
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They have a bright future on the Diablo IV development team.
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Tonetta posted:you see, metal sub genres are important because it lets me know how much screaming will be in the song, which I would like little to none of You need some Pelican and Russian Circles in your life. Mogwai too.
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Mogwai is excellent
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~Coxy posted:Does Forza actually have car part drops with stats now? That sounds like it might be fun for a while.
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Not only do cars have different stats in Horizon but there's a Battle Royale mode called Eliminator.
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~Coxy posted:Does Forza actually have car part drops with stats now? That sounds like it might be fun for a while. Can’t wait to target farm specific tracks for car parts.
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Stux posted:d4 shouldve made the legendaries purple or something instead of trying to keep the d3 color. having yellow rares, orange legendary and beige uniques is so awfu l lol “doomfunk” posted:Stux is 100% right
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Bisse posted:This actually excites me. Racing games can be pretty grindy sometimes so it would fit right in! Two The Crew MMO car games have come and gone and one is literally no longer able to be played due to servers shutting down
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Tonetta posted:are we just using arpg to mean non turn based rpg's now? Popular titles in "Action Roleplaying Games" on Steam include Hogwarts, Fallout 4, Lost Ark, POE, Elden Ring, and Dragon's Dogma 2. That's just the genre. It's never meant top down looters. It was literally, as Stux has said, just not turn based. Then it became, basically, RPG stats in an action game (because that genre sells, versus CRPG, which doesn't). Genres are a marketing thing. Always have and will be. Treating this like a "but is a Taco a sandwich?" Is silly because it's all just labels to help your game sell, not an academic pursuit. Though I appreciate the academic pursuit, and we literally have the modifier "looter" to describe Diablo, a looter ARPG. Though as Stux said, calling it a Diablo -like is just as descriptive.
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arpgs, as in the thing referred to by 99.9% of people using the term is, and i can not stress this enough, not the same thing as going on steam and checking the action and the rpg tags and it is so incredibly wild that you are doubling down on this
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If you have stats, level up, and there are quests it’s an action rpg.
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If I told a random coworker 'Action RPG' they would most likely reply 'Elden Ring'. This is fine and normal, it is what those two words together strongly imply in the common tounge of man. You can call it whatever you want and clarify the confusion if it arises. 'Looter Golden Axe-like' is probably more accurate though.
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should do like music genres. looter post-roguelike
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Why are people comparing action role-playing game and arpg? They use the same words but mean different things. I'm confused lol.
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Neo-demonclicker
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Elden Ring is an RTS actually, because it is real time and has strategy involved
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Field Mousepad posted:You need some Pelican and Russian Circles in your life. Mogwai too. loving a right. Less known and more directly metallic would be If These Trees Could Talk. rear end band name, great tunes. Now I want an arpg looter spinoff of Brutal Legend.
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Bisse posted:If I told a random coworker 'Action RPG' they would most likely reply 'Elden Ring'. This is fine and normal, it is what those two words together strongly imply in the common tounge of man. You can call it whatever you want and clarify the confusion if it arises. 'Looter Golden Axe-like' is probably more accurate though. to put this incredibly simply for you, 'arpg' is not the same thing as 'Action RPG'
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victrix posted:adding more ornate borders between item types for color blind people would be cool too It has been a few years since I played POE but I remember it having the ability to do this and I thought it was super cool. Also in D4 complaints, loot text fades WAY too quickly.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:to put this incredibly simply for you, 'arpg' is not the same thing as 'Action RPG' What does the a mean then??
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MJBuddy posted:That's just the genre. It's never meant top down looters. It was literally, as Stux has said, just not turn based. no, it definitely meant diablo-likes originally, it went diablo clones then arpgs. it start getting applied to other stuff later. this kind of dual meaning happens all the time in genres outside of games and everyone is able to comprehend and understand it and use context to decipher which meaning people are using 90% of the time. we should probably just call them diablo likes bcos youre all too stupid, and theres prescedent w doom which also was doom clones, into fps, and then when fps became more broadly applied doom-likes or boomer shooter or retro shooter started being used to differentiate. but one would think when you are posting in a thread for specifically a diablo game you can work out what people mean when they say arpg.
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MarcusSA posted:What does the a mean then?? It's 'a rpg', meaning there is no difference between Diablo and FF7. I am very smart.
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The a stands for rear end!!!
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MarcusSA posted:What does the a mean then?? action rpg - games like elden ring and zelda ARPG A - A Loot filled R - Role P - Playing G - Game
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doomfunk posted:should do like music genres. looter post-roguelike lol i was thinking of music but in music ppl can understand that there is hardcore and hardcore, and everyone gets on with it
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My dumbass take is that action RPG is broken up into a number of subgenres. Elden Ring is not the same type of action RPG as Diablo. Skyrim is a different type of action RPG from those other two games as well. People can mostly be trusted to figure out it out on their own (or im giving gamers too much credit judging by this thread apparently). Like if someone said I am looking for a good alternative to Diablo, you wouldnt get all Steam recommendations on them and recommend Dark Souls II, that would be stupid.
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MarcusSA posted:What does the a mean then?? one is an acronym that is a shorthand for a specific type of game that is generally understood by 99.9% of people who play them
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