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I played it when I was 15
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Sakurazuka posted:I played it when I was 15 
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Apr 15, 2024 07:35
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I did not play it.
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Apr 15, 2024 07:46
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we're going back to potos to get my loving power ring back rear end in a top hat
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Apr 15, 2024 07:51
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Clarste posted:The reason it's so beloved is because people played it when they were 8. It's still good. The gameplay may have aged but the music still slaps. That will never change
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Apr 15, 2024 08:16
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The last Mana game I played for any extended time was Trials, and I never beat it. I know it got mentioned earlier but was there actually one that was near as good as Secret in terms of plot and music?
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Apr 15, 2024 08:57
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Music wise at least I'd say I preferred both SD3/Trials and Legend of Mana. The intro to LoM (the second one that plays when you actually start a game) is probably my favourite JRPG track ever.
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Apr 15, 2024 09:37
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This one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c73t4ZoYE_Q
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Apr 15, 2024 09:38
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Secret of Mana is really rough coming in nostalgia-free now, but playing it w/ the Turbo all-in-one hack makes it a much better game for modern sensibilities imo. https://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=27890.0 It's built off of a bunch of general gameplay revamps and bug fixes, speeds up the game dramatically by getting rid of the stamina system & fixes companion AI pathfinding. Also includes patching for the MSU-1 music & just recently added support for the "Reborn" retranslation that is a significantly better script. The only downside is there's so many options in the custom patcher that it can be overwhelming, but I'd rather have those options just be checkboxes than have to merge a bunch of stuff myself. There's a few older SNES titles (mostly BoF2 & 7th Saga lol) where I'd consider big revamps/bugfixes/retranslations to be recommended for anyone to have a good experience coming into them fresh now, SoM is one of them unless the stamina-based combat system really clicks for you. Blankspace fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Apr 15, 2024 |
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Apr 15, 2024 10:03
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The entire Legend of Mana soundtrack absolutely slaps. Shoutout to one of my favorite boss battle themes ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XCbqHXZaKw
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Apr 15, 2024 10:09
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WXSZWbYHs8
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Apr 15, 2024 10:46
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Mr. Locke posted:Yeah, I dunno. Outside of the Trials remake I don't think it'd be a hot take to say the entire Mana franchise is filled with creatively wonderful but mechanically flawed games. Some entries like Children, Heroes, and Dawn are more or less outright bad. Others like Sword and Legend are at least innocuous for the most part and just have the curse of being very shallow games that somehow get layers upon layers of utterly pointless subsystems. And the early entries are just Old games with some weird quirks that have aged terribly like Secret's actively detrimental weapon charging and spell leveling or SD3's horrible habit of punishing you with fullscreen counters for using your fun toys. There's things to admire in most of the games, especially the art and music direction, but good lord it took until Trials remake to create one where I don't really have to introduce to folks with any caveats for the gameplay side of things. Not only is Sword a game with utter pointless subsystems, it has a finale where they replace your protagonist being the one being left into saving the world with several people and the Power Of Friendship(TM). The original has a character who dies at the very start of the game to kick things off, in Sword HE'S THERE UNTIL THE VERY END. It has such insane padding of that 8-bit shallowness. You know that vampire you defeat while staying in a mansion in the original? He couldn't just be an early boss you know, so now he has a TRAGIC BACKSTORY. I have never played the second remake of FFA, Adventures of Mana, but I hope it didn't pretend to be something else than an old game with some fresh paint and some tweaks. Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 11:30 on Apr 15, 2024 |
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Apr 15, 2024 11:27
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fridge corn posted:It's still good. The gameplay may have aged but the music still slaps. That will never change Artstyle too. I love pretty much everything about it except for the combat which is just okay, not egregiously bad but nothing to write home about, etc.
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Apr 15, 2024 11:54
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Mierenneuker posted:Not only is Sword a game with utter pointless subsystems, it has a finale where they replace your protagonist being the one being left into saving the world with several people and the Power Of Friendship(TM). The original has a character who dies at the very start of the game to kick things off, in Sword HE'S THERE UNTIL THE VERY END. It has such insane padding of that 8-bit shallowness. You know that vampire you defeat while staying in a mansion in the original? He couldn't just be an early boss you know, so now he has a TRAGIC BACKSTORY. Probably would've loved it on Game Boy as a kid though.
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Apr 15, 2024 11:58
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I tried, and failed, to play the original FFA like 3 times and could never get into it. It's so old and barebones. It utterly fails to explain what your little flashing bar is (it dumps you immediately into a boss fight), the dialog is atrocious, either because of character limitations or a bad translation, and after making it to the first town I basically had no idea what I was supposed to do next. I wandered into the woods until I died, repeated that a few times, then moved on to something else. E: like, there are so many GB games more fleshed out and easier to parse, it's really not a limitation of the hardware/storage. Like, pokemon gen 1 were GB games. Compare those games to FFA.
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Apr 15, 2024 12:20
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There's a five year difference in those games which was a huge gap in those days. Yes, it is the same hardware but you're comparing a third party game made a year or two after the hardware debut to a first party game made years later. Not saying the first Mana game isn't weird and fairly obtuse but that was kinda the standard in 1991.
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Apr 15, 2024 12:28
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Annath posted:I tried, and failed, to play the original FFA like 3 times and could never get into it. It's so old and barebones. It utterly fails to explain what your little flashing bar is (it dumps you immediately into a boss fight), the dialog is atrocious, either because of character limitations or a bad translation, and after making it to the first town I basically had no idea what I was supposed to do next. I wandered into the woods until I died, repeated that a few times, then moved on to something else.
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Apr 15, 2024 12:34
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Did half of the first world of KH3 last night. I played it on launch but I honestly remember almost nothing other than not liking it very much by the end and I'm starting to see why. The combat feels good but the constant triangle spam (attractions are rear end!!!!!!!!) really suck lol. Also graphically everything looks very weird, this is probably because the series always had a very consistent art style throughout all the releases and then this changes it, but the Disney characters in particular look very plastic-y (Yen Sid especially) Also the opening movie has good visuals but the song sucks rear end...
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Apr 15, 2024 12:41
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The songs good 
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Annath posted:I tried, and failed, to play the original FFA like 3 times and could never get into it. It's so old and barebones. It utterly fails to explain what your little flashing bar is (it dumps you immediately into a boss fight), the dialog is atrocious, either because of character limitations or a bad translation, and after making it to the first town I basically had no idea what I was supposed to do next. I wandered into the woods until I died, repeated that a few times, then moved on to something else. Sounds like issues that could be solved with a look at the game manual.
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Apr 15, 2024 13:21
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fridge corn posted:It's still good. The gameplay may have aged but the music still slaps. That will never change The gameplay didn't age it was bad then too and the whimsy and vibes were also bad. DQ without the charm.
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Apr 15, 2024 13:27
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Mana definitely has better music than DQ
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Apr 15, 2024 13:30
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Sakurazuka posted:Mana definitely has better music than DQ Yeah but you can just listen to the ost separately and not play the bad game.
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Apr 15, 2024 13:31
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Paying2Lurk posted:Sounds like issues that could be solved with a look at the game manual. When your primary source of games as a kid is the local Goodwill, and you're lucky if the game has a label, manuals aren't really a thing.
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Apr 15, 2024 13:33
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Yeah but you can just listen to the ost separately and not play the bad game. Do you feel listening to a video game soundtrack on its own or listening to it as part of playing the game to be equivalent experiences?
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Apr 15, 2024 13:38
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Did half of the first world of KH3 last night. I played it on launch but I honestly remember almost nothing other than not liking it very much by the end and I'm starting to see why. The combat feels good but the constant triangle spam (attractions are rear end!!!!!!!!) really suck lol. You got to play on critical so you can have the ability that disables all attractions! (that might be on other difficulties too, I can't remember)
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SyntheticPolygon posted:You got to play on critical so you can have the ability that disables all attractions! (that might be on other difficulties too, I can't remember) Yeah without attractions, which are not as good as just...doing combo, the triangle spam in 3 is a lot less than in 2 where it's mostly just combo finishers and form shifts in 3.
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Apr 15, 2024 13:49
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I finished SoM twice last year and the combat isn't great but it's not enough to ruin the game. The menu loading times in Trials original is almost enough to ruin the game though.
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Apr 15, 2024 13:49
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fridge corn posted:Do you feel listening to a video game soundtrack on its own or listening to it as part of playing the game to be equivalent experiences? When the gameplay is as boring as SoM I don't feel like listening to it at all!
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:When the gameplay is as boring as SoM I don't feel like listening to it at all! It was a genuine question meant to spark an interesting conversation but okay
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Apr 15, 2024 14:20
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Yeah without attractions, which are not as good as just...doing combo, the triangle spam in 3 is a lot less than in 2 where it's mostly just combo finishers and form shifts in 3. I've had more triangle pop ups available to me in the first world of KH3 than like half of KH2, a game I played and beat a week ago. You're crazy man.
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Apr 15, 2024 14:26
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Also I didn't choose critical mode since "you deal half damage and take double damage" is not interesting to me. Even if they give you a bunch of other toys.
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Apr 15, 2024 14:28
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you dont deal half damage in critical mode, you deal normal damage. its just lower hp/you take more damage and the new toys
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Apr 15, 2024 14:31
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in kh2 critical mode you actually deal more damage to enemies than normal
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Apr 15, 2024 14:33
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KH 2 and 3 on critical mode are great and you should give them a try sometime. Critical Mode on 3 basically made it my fav KH game honestly, had a blast playing through it last year.
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Apr 15, 2024 14:34
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Wait which is the opening movie music in KH3 the skrillex thing or Don't Think Twice? The first is eh and the second owns.
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Apr 15, 2024 14:35
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Endorph posted:you dont deal half damage in critical mode, you deal normal damage. its just lower hp/you take more damage and the new toys Oh. Well I got lied to by SEO sites then. Which listed a chart and said that lol.
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im pretty sure the only difficulty option in the entire series that lowers the damage you deal is kh3d proud mode
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Oh. Well I got lied to by SEO sites then. Which listed a chart and said that lol. lol https://www.khwiki.com/Difficulty_Level quote:KH3 Critical Mode:
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Might restart then. Dealing half damage was the dealbreaker for me and since that's not true I don't really have a problem with it lol.
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