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dreezy posted:i never watched voy but it really seems like the premise of being stranded in the alpha quadrant would have been way way better with ds9's tone and direction and serialized survival story that late 90s upn probably wasnt ready for but i also assume everyone feels this way That’s why everyone likes BSG
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Baronjutter posted:wow, your wife doesn't care for pedophile clown cooks? Sounds like she has some growing up to do. His feet are disgusting, his voice is annoying, he's way too confident in himself She came down later to tell me his hair sucks
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Squiggle posted:We hit this episode in our Voyager tour last night and my wife hated this scene so much that she left the room, unloading everything she hates about Neelix as her voice trailed up the stairs. Squiggle posted:His feet are disgusting, his voice is annoying, he's way too confident in himself You should marry her again.
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Voyager had such a great premise which was ruined by terrible characters and bad writing
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Sunk Dunk posted:What exactly is Whoopi’s character? Is she an empath like the other lady or something else? No but she's a better counselor anyway. Maybe because she actually understands what it's like not to be able to read people's minds. Unless she can? Who knows. They fortunately never try to explain it in any of the stuff that's worth watching. dreezy posted:i never watched voy but it really seems like the premise of being stranded in the alpha quadrant would have been way way better with ds9's tone and direction and serialized survival story that late 90s upn probably wasnt ready for but i also assume everyone feels this way That's pretty much the fan consensus, yes. It's also speculated that Voyager satisfying the boilerplate Trek quota allowed the DS9 guys a bit more freedom to do whatever the hell they wanted. There was probably no reality where they both got to do that.
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Sunk Dunk posted:I’ve been watching tng and I’m on season 2. A couple of questions: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Beard
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Gripweed posted:Riker is a human, male humans are capable of growing hair on their face. While most male humans remove the hair for aesthetic reasons, some allow the hair to grow.
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dreezy posted:i never watched voy but it really seems like the premise of being stranded in the alpha quadrant would have been way way better with ds9's tone and direction and serialized survival story that late 90s upn probably wasnt ready for but i also assume everyone feels this way This is what battlestar was since it's the ds9 writer who went over to voy and was told they can't do any interesting long form arcs. Except he got so excited he could do his brutal gritty drama filled space adventure that he forgot to give BSG a plot.
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Baronjutter posted:This is what battlestar was since it's the ds9 writer who went over to voy and was told they can't do any interesting long form arcs. Except he got so excited he could do his brutal gritty drama filled space adventure that he forgot to give BSG a plot. The plot could have just been “these guys need to survive and stay one step ahead of the Cylons while looking for a new home”. With long term plot developments like human political infighting and schisms in Cylon society arising from that. Nobody asked for some big series of nested mystery boxes.
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Gripweed posted:The plot could have just been “these guys need to survive and stay one step ahead of the Cylons while looking for a new home”. With long term plot developments like human political infighting and schisms in Cylon society arising from that. Lost is the whipping boy for every mystery box discussion but Lost didn’t put “And they have a plan” at the beginning of each episode. Love BSG overall but the overt attempts to convince the audience they knew where it was going was absolutely insane.
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Sunk Dunk posted:I’ve been watching tng and I’m on season 2. A couple of questions: Watch the upcoming "Star Trek: Titan" to learn the harrowing story of how Riker grew a beard (It is revealed in a traumatic flashbacks spaced throughout the season that Riker's brother, whom he never mentioned before or again, died tragically n between TNG seasons and Riker's beard is a tribute to his beard)
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The actual reason is that frakes was doing some period western or something that required the beard and the trek production thought he looked fine with it so they kept it.
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I like the beard because it distinguishes him even more from the budget-kirk role he started the show as
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kalel posted:I like the beard because it distinguishes him even more from the budget-kirk role he started the show as Also in the 80's and 90's beards were not so common, while today a man basically is not really a man if he does not have a beard.
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I wonder what Jay looks like without a beard.
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Endless Trash posted:Lost is the whipping boy for every mystery box discussion but Lost didn’t put “And they have a plan” at the beginning of each episode. Love BSG overall but the overt attempts to convince the audience they knew where it was going was absolutely insane. No, but the showrunners bragged about having the whole thing planned out in interviews. It's not quite as in your face but it was still present.
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Outpost22 posted:I wonder what Jay looks like without a beard. I'm pretty sure he's actually single atm
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counterfeitsaint posted:No, but the showrunners bragged about having the whole thing planned out in interviews. It's not quite as in your face but it was still present. I’d say 99% of viewers are not hanging on every word the producers say, especially new viewers long after the show is over. “And they have a plan” is eternal.
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Between Lost, BSG, and some really bad D&D DM's I've had over the years I have serious trust issues with "writers" and their loving mystery boxes. It's why I've almost stopped watching shows as their air and only give them a chance once they're totally finished so I know not to waste my time with a show that tries to write a ton of mystery cheques that are all eventually going to bounce.
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what's the difference between a jj abrams mystery box and something like twin peaks? how did lynch succeed where so many of his imitators failed
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Probably had a plan going in? I learned last night that Babylon 5 was pretty much completely conceived from beginning to end as a five season story before it was ever greenlit, so you see them setting poo poo up WAY ahead of time that actually feels intentional instead of "oh, poo poo, we should probably explain that weird thing we said three seasons ago"
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Just watched unbreakable and it has the same ending as blood debts. What a piece of poo poo
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Sunk Dunk posted:Just watched unbreakable and it has the same ending as blood debts. What a piece of poo poo Actually it ends with Kimmy opening up a theme park based on her book
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I sometimes still think of the line "They called me Mr. Glass!" Its weird how some things stick in your brain.
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drat mark collins, age 45 can not catch a break
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Milo and POTUS posted:I'm pretty sure he's actually single atm 
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Battlestar Galactica did the Lost mystery box horseshit? My roommate has been trying to get me to watch BSG for a little while, and now my desire to view it could not be lower. Is there enough good tv contained in the show to make up for  ?
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Pvt.Scott posted:Battlestar Galactica did the Lost mystery box horseshit? My roommate has been trying to get me to watch BSG for a little while, and now my desire to view it could not be lower. Is there enough good tv to make up for It absolutely does the mystery box bullshit. but I think there''s enough good stuff in the show to make up for that.
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Pvt.Scott posted:Battlestar Galactica did the Lost mystery box horseshit? My roommate has been trying to get me to watch BSG for a little while, and now my desire to view it could not be lower. Is there enough good tv contained in the show to make up for the first 2 seasons are worth watching, you can just stop there before it gets bad. I did.
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Sunk Dunk posted:Just watched unbreakable and it has the same ending as blood debts. What a piece of poo poo I like the part where he tries to escape the POW camp by blowing up the guard with a rocket derringer before the freeze frame tells us he submitted himself to the Japanese authorities and served a life-ending sentence by decapitation. You did say Unbroken, right?
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I don't think there's enough good stuff in BSG to make up for it. I remember watching it week to week but beyond that, I don't think a show ever hit the eject button from my memory faster or harder when it finally finished flailing to a halt
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No Mods No Masters posted:I don't think there's enough good stuff in BSG to make up for it. I remember watching it week to week but beyond that, I don't think a show ever hit the eject button from my memory faster or harder when it finally finished flailing to a halt The first 2 seasons are really good, as are the first 4? episodes of the third season.
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Star trek Voyager is the single most successful television show ever made. Not in terms of ratings or cultural impact or quality. It's function was too distract all the people involved in tv that completely ruin a show. All the coked up execs, nepobabies, """""creative""""" producers etc got told it was the serious prestige good star trek and were too dumb to figure out what was going on. "Oh sure, you losers go and make this other show no one will care about while we make real star trek over here" they laughed as they sexually harassed every human being within a one kilometre radius. "Black captain? Lol sure no one cares. That's just a dumb spin off". And then as Voyager sucked space dick left right and centre, a perfect cycle was born: all the idiots made the show terrible, and with no one talented to bail them out they had to be more invested in it, which made it worse. They didn't even have time to remember DS9 existed. This same technique is also how we got Mandalorian (season 1 only, made the mistake of being TOO successful) and Andor. The problem with trek now is that they keep filling the Voyager role but forgetting to sneak in a DS9.
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No Mods No Masters posted:I don't think there's enough good stuff in BSG to make up for it. I remember watching it week to week but beyond that, I don't think a show ever hit the eject button from my memory faster or harder when it finally finished flailing to a halt Lucy Lawless Red dress lady in red dress Baltar as a whole Fat Adama Any one of those is worth the price of entry
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i don't regret watching BSG. not all that many shows with spaceship battles and Edward James Olmos is kool
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Is farscape worth watching? That's the one I always forget exists
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AARD VARKMAN posted:Is farscape worth watching? That's the one I always forget exists I'd rank it around the level of sg-1, thoroughly okay sci-fi tv.
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Kingo Ligma posted:Lucy Lawless Michael Hogan is really good in it. Dean Stockwell
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AARD VARKMAN posted:Is farscape worth watching? That's the one I always forget exists I really enjoyed it but have never successfully recommended it to anyone.
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