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Time for anonymous slander and misunderstanding of diabetes https://x.com/BillyM_91/status/1780544832189907194
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Sataere posted:I've never understood devaluing future picks. Only time it comes into play is if your job is on the line and if you aren't acquiring capital early you are probably losing your job anyway. If you’ve just been hired or are already a perennial playoff team, then sure.
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Apr 17, 2024 17:30
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a neat cape posted:If the Vikings really want JJ, then either the Cardinals or the Chargers are gonna get 11, 23, and a 2025 First. Brugler's seven round mock draft came out, it has the Vikings trading up with the Cardinals to get JJ, then the Cardinals trading up with the Chargers to get MHJ. Chargers end up with 11 and 35, which they use to get JC Latham and Kris Jenkins. Not totally sure about all that, partially because I'm not a massive fan of either of those players. Defying the logic in the article I posted and we've been discussing, I think I'd rather have Joe Alt or Nabers/Odunze. But, it's definitely a logical scenario and does fit Harbaugh pretty well. Diva Cupcake posted:Because results matter and GMs don’t have an unlimited timeframe to put together a team capable of winning games. Yeah the key phrase there is 'if your job is on the line' but in reality a GM's job is ALWAYS on the line. Except in very specific situations, with GMs who have proven themselves beyond a doubt. Or just been hired, I suppose, like you say. I've got to say that it doesn't SEEM like trading down a ton has worked recently for the teams that do it. But I could be wrong about that. Dexo posted:So the thing about trading back is I think there are enough teams that are in the teens that need some combination of wide receiver quarterback or offensive tackle where I don't think finding a trade back partner is going to be hard especially in this draft. Trading back should be reasonably easy to do in the first half of the first round, I think it's after that where it gets tricky. It'll just be situational, if a player drops and a team really likes them, or wants to keep them away from a divisional opponent.
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Apr 17, 2024 18:16
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Second and third round picks are comically undervalued by GMs
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Apr 17, 2024 18:19
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Second and third round picks are comically undervalued by GMs
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Apr 17, 2024 18:29
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Play posted:Brugler's seven round mock draft came out, it has the Vikings trading up with the Cardinals to get JJ, then the Cardinals trading up with the Chargers to get MHJ. Chargers end up with 11 and 35, which they use to get JC Latham and Kris Jenkins. I just don't see a tackle in the first round. We have an all pro LT and Pipkins at RT just signed a new contract and wasn't the problem last year. Both guards struggled, but one was a first round pick two years ago and the other has a whole bunch of talent at RG. We really need a Center more than anything. We just traded away Keenan and let Mike Williams walk. The WR room right now is Josh Palmer, Quinton Johnston, and Darius Davis. WR has to be the pick at 5.
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Apr 17, 2024 18:33
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Sataere posted:Poles has been building by trading down in the middle rounds to cover depth. Even though they have 4 picks this year, they have had a lot of picks over the last three years. It is playing the middle rounds that builds up a roster. And they did this with zero comp picks. Rosters are built through the middle rounds imo Poles has also traded up to get guys he liked. Poles strikes me as someone who sticks to his board, and will trade up if he can because he thinks one of the players in a certain tier aren't going to be there, their next pick, but will also trade back if he has like 20 players he's willing to take and would be happy with any of them etc. Like if he wants a WR, I don't think a trade up is out of the question to make sure he gets one, burning one of the future seconds he has next year. Or more likely I think he burns future capital to try and get into the second round this year. If he can't or doesn't want to trade back and do it.
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Apr 17, 2024 18:35
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a neat cape posted:I just don't see a tackle in the first round. We have an all pro LT and Pipkins at RT just signed a new contract and wasn't the problem last year. Both guards struggled, but one was a first round pick two years ago and the other has a whole bunch of talent at RG. We really need a Center more than anything. WR at five, all-pro center JPJ in the second round 
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Apr 17, 2024 18:58
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Ornery and Hornery posted:WR at five, all-pro center JPJ in the second round I'm pretty sure the Bucs would take him before he'd make it that far.
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My sicko dream is Johnny Newton falling into the mid-second and the Bears leaping up to grab him Would also be happy moving up for a sliding Tier 2 WR if they go DL/OL in the first round
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Apr 17, 2024 19:07
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a neat cape posted:I just don't see a tackle in the first round. We have an all pro LT and Pipkins at RT just signed a new contract and wasn't the problem last year. Both guards struggled, but one was a first round pick two years ago and the other has a whole bunch of talent at RG. We really need a Center more than anything. When AZ trades back and you get Marvin, you better be really happy about it 
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Apr 17, 2024 19:07
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Ornery and Hornery posted:WR at five, all-pro center JPJ in the second round If we get MHJ/Nabers at 5 and JPJ/Barton at 37 I'd run through the streets banging pots and pans
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Apr 17, 2024 19:08
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The national media seems to REALLY think Jim Harbaugh doesn't care about In reality the obvious pick at 5 is Blake Corum (not really (but just imagine lol))
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Apr 17, 2024 19:12
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Dexo posted:Poles has also traded up to get guys he liked. 100%. That is the right way to do it. You maximize value by trading to the bottom of tiers and use that extra draft capital to go get your guys. It prevents you from mortgaging your future while still having the ability to strategically target guys you want. a neat cape posted:I just don't see a tackle in the first round. We have an all pro LT and Pipkins at RT just signed a new contract and wasn't the problem last year. Both guards struggled, but one was a first round pick two years ago and the other has a whole bunch of talent at RG. We really need a Center more than anything. I don't really get it either. People in these streets acting like Slater ain't a stud at LT. I think the 5th pick is MHJ or trading down for extra captial.
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Apr 17, 2024 19:13
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Docjowles posted:The national media seems to REALLY think Jim Harbaugh doesn't care about He took the job because of Herbert! Harbaugh took like 1 OL in the first three rounds all four years in SF! I feel like I'm screaming into the void
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Apr 17, 2024 19:14
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Play posted:I like when the consensus is opposed, given how so much of the media shows so little deviation. You can tell they be copying each others' work It's been really funny to me doing the goon draft and reading scouting reports and being like "why is this guy ranked so low." Like when I was looking at TJ Tampa every big board has him in like the 50s and then every mock draft has him going late first/early second including ahead of other CBs ranked ahead of him.
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Apr 17, 2024 19:16
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a neat cape posted:If we get MHJ/Nabers at 5 and JPJ/Barton at 37 I'd run through the streets banging pots and pans I'm really hoping one of JPJ/Barton falls to Tampa because that would fill a big need. Feiler was indeed washed up we found out last year. a neat cape posted:He took the job because of Herbert! He did have an NFL top 5 draft pick talent at QB last season and didn't really use him.
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Apr 17, 2024 19:17
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wandler20 posted:
Maybe that says more about JJ. He sure let Andrew Luck throw. 31 times a game
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Is Harbaugh actually in charge of the draft? 50/50 with Joe Hortiz? Or all Joe? I wonder how they've got that set up. I agree that going receiver is the only thing that truly makes sense, to me. But teams often do things that don't make sense to me.
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Apr 17, 2024 19:24
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Play posted:Is Harbaugh actually in charge of the draft? 50/50 with Joe Hortiz? Or all Joe? I wonder how they've got that set up. I assume they're collaborating. Harbaugh probably has significant influence considering he recruited a lot of these kids.
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Apr 17, 2024 19:28
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a neat cape posted:Maybe that says more about JJ. I'm seeing 26. 3 more than McCarthy. Ball control offense coming to LA.
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Apr 17, 2024 19:36
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a neat cape posted:He took the job because of Herbert! A shocking amount of podcast/Twitter seem to have tales that are directly contradicted by evidence and it feels like we are being gaslit
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Apr 17, 2024 19:36
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Now that I'm done with the trolling, I was looking at McCarthy's stats from last year. He had 4 INTs. 3 were in one game against.....Bowling Green. A game he finished 8 for 13. What the hell? Also lol at his 7/8 for 60 yard performance against Penn State. What weird year he had.
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Apr 17, 2024 19:42
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wandler20 posted:I'm seeing 26. 3 more than McCarthy. I was just comparing their last seasons. It supports my argument more
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Apr 17, 2024 19:43
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a neat cape posted:I was just comparing their last seasons. It supports my argument more Smart man.
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a neat cape posted:I was just comparing their last seasons. It supports my argument more Jim Harbaugh wasn't the coach for Andrew Luck's last season, David Shaw was.
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Apr 17, 2024 19:49
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Kaep averaged just a shade under 30 pass attempts per game in Harbaugh's last NFL season and that was with a QB who's best skillset was running. They're absolutely going to be a ball control offense but I imagine Herbie's still taking plenty of shots this season, he'll just likely get hit significantly less frequently bc they won't constantly make him do everything while also giving him a mediocre o-line
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Kaep averaged just a shade under 30 pass attempts per game in Harbaugh's last NFL season and that was with a QB who's best skillset was running. Yeah that's my read too. A lot more under center and play action too.
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https://x.com/PSchrags/status/1780670665068052818
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wandler20 posted:He did have an NFL top 5 draft pick talent at QB last season and didn't really use him. JJ might go Top 5 but hes not a top 5 talent, not even close
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:JJ might go Top 5 but hes not a top 5 talent, not even close Yeah, it was a joke.
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Apr 17, 2024 19:57
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man the week before the draft is the worst
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:man the week before the draft is the worst Also the best
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Apr 17, 2024 20:13
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In the middle of June we will be pining for these days when there was something to talk about, no matter how dumb
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Apr 17, 2024 20:35
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Peter Schrager is the #1 source for finding out which steakhouses NFL teams and players ate at. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to be a very good draft insider otherwise
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Apr 17, 2024 20:36
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The most important aspects of a prospect are hand size and what they order at a steakhouse
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xbilkis posted:Peter Schrager is the #1 source for finding out which steakhouses NFL teams and players ate at. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to be a very good draft insider otherwise No one is op
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Midnightghoul posted:The most important aspects of a prospect are hand size and what they order at a steakhouse i don't like steak so i would plummet in the draft. everything else about me is #1 overall material. the league is letting me down
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kidcoelacanth posted:i don't like steak so i would plummet in the draft. everything else about me is #1 overall material. the league is letting me down I've already knocked you down a grade as a poster for this shameful admission
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https://twitter.com/BenjaminSolak/status/1780678317042974861 Really hope Washington is able to protect Jayden like LSU could this past year.
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