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BrotherJayne posted:Not gonna lie, any scene of him being a (step)dad had my heart melting it bit Good actor, who gave a good performance, but I still can't shake the feeling they might've hired him just because they thought it was funny he was so much taller than Lucy's brother. If so, I fully support their choices.
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Bright Bart posted:What makes you think that? Oh I don't think he has a heart of gold or anything, just that he wouldn't bother if he didn't have to.
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CelticPredator posted:Who the gently caress is Harold one of the cool cast of characters in the earlier game who eventually becomes a tree.
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dr_rat posted:Good actor, who gave a good performance, but I still can't shake the feeling they might've hired him just because they thought it was funny he was so much taller than Lucy's brother. Norm took Small Frame, Chet’s got Bruiser. It’s a match made in heaven, really.
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Yeah that branch just kept on growing. Did take a few decades, so yeah if you find a branch growing out of you, seems you still have quite a while till you need to see a doctor/arborist.
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moths posted:That's not incompatible with the show, which suggests "China's" strike on LA was a Vault-Tec inside job. I hope it sticks more to Vault-Tec and the Boys were sabotaging peace negotiations and pushing for escalation rather than Vault-Tec somehow has nuclear missiles and literally started it. The latter is IMO a much less satisfying story.
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Grand Fromage posted:I hope it sticks more to Vault-Tec and the Boys were sabotaging peace negotiations and pushing for escalation rather than Vault-Tec somehow has nuclear missiles and literally started it. The latter is IMO a much less satisfying story. But that's exactly what they did, bomb even blows up in exact same location since they retcon Shady Sands to be LA.
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Back Hack posted:But that's exactly what they did, bomb even blows up in exact same location since they retcon Shady Sands to be LA. No, the show doesn't say that. They just discuss it as a possibility. The only nuclear weapon explicitly used by a Vault-Tec dude is the one Hank uses at Shady Sands, long after the Great War. Like the fate of the NCR, it's not exactly clear what happened yet. It's not like Bethesda is against retcons but this would be a huuuuuge one. There are many mentions in the games of detecting missiles and fleets of bombers from China which triggered the US to fire back. And there's not a nuclear taboo thing, there had already been a nuclear war in the Middle East a couple decades before the Great War. This did remind me that the godawful Fallout movie proposal from ages ago had Vault-Tec fire first. E: Anyway I'm choosing to go this way until/unless they are explicit about Vault Bush doing 10/23 because I don't like it. If you do like it that is fine with me. I think I am right to say the show is not clear on the answer, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's intentional and "did they really do it?" is supposed to stay ambiguous. Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Apr 17, 2024 |
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BrotherJayne posted:he'd burnt through all his VATS AP loving up everyone else in the town That post that was like "jumping up on a ledge and firing wildly at the enemy is exactly what you do when you're out of AP" was too real
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Grand Fromage posted:No, the show doesn't say that. They just discuss it as a possibility. The only nuclear weapon explicitly used by a Vault-Tec dude is the one Hank uses at Shady Sands, long after the Great War. Like the fate of the NCR, it's not exactly clear what happened yet. It's not like Bethesda is against retcons but this would be a huuuuuge one. There are many mentions in the games of detecting missiles and fleets of bombers from China which triggered the US to fire back. And there's not a nuclear taboo thing, there had already been a nuclear war in the Middle East a couple decades before the Great War. Episode 8: I think the show is pretty thematically explicit that the status of the nation states that were antagonistic in the war doesn't matter, the responsibility has been usurped by Vault-Tec. It's more a semantic question that doesn't matter at all to the shows eyes, The collapse of a weakening democratic society that was really just for show and its replacement by a corporate oligarchy interested only in the survival of its programs is what caused the final nuclear exchange that ended the world. Honestly as a retcon its not something I really care about either, and I don't think the show does. It's not like the games have grappled with the question as a matter of theme or tone before, that's just background detail.
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"The details are trivial and pointless. The reasons, as always, purely human ones."
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So, like a cool guy, I watched a Fallout lore video about the pre nuclear war history, and they made it sound like the entire country was rife with rioting and looting, not to mention occupied Canada, and it sounded like the AK war went right up to, or close to, when the bombs dropped. But things seemed pretty chill in Southern Cal?
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zoux posted:So, like a cool guy, I watched a Fallout lore video about the pre nuclear war history, and they made it sound like the entire country was rife with rioting and looting, not to mention occupied Canada, and it sounded like the AK war went right up to, or close to, when the bombs dropped. But things seemed pretty chill in Southern Cal? If you're in the rich areas, sure. Same as Boston, lots of idealized upscale nameighborhoods surrounded by immense poverty. Part of the reason there's so much power armor around is because the army and national guard were expecting open rebellion at some point.
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zoux posted:So, like a cool guy, I watched a Fallout lore video about the pre nuclear war history, and they made it sound like the entire country was rife with rioting and looting, not to mention occupied Canada, and it sounded like the AK war went right up to, or close to, when the bombs dropped. But things seemed pretty chill in Southern Cal? To be fair, the few glimpses of the setting we get are of a wealthy and isolated part of that world, and characters still mention those issues in dialog.
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Arc Hammer posted:If you're in the rich areas, sure. Same as Boston, lots of idealized upscale nameighborhoods surrounded by immense poverty. Part of the reason there's so much power armor around is because the army and national guard were expecting open rebellion at some point. The Desert Ranger armor in New Vegas is effectively riot gear as well. You even find uparmored variants of it explicitly stating it as such. Combat armor could be bought for personal use.
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Okay I get that Maximus is supposed to be kinda dumb with poo poo social skills... but they definitely could have shaved a few seconds off of all the instances of his sitting there tongue-tied whenever he needs to use his words. The actor sells it and all but it's frustrating to watch.
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One thing the games always made clear is that outside of a handful of people, the war took everyone by surprised, and how destructive it was. The Enclave knew something was going to happen, and soon, but not exactly when. So they set up their bases and were ready to go as soon as the balloon went up. Why the President ended up on the oil rig, the pentagon at Raven Rock, the Secretaries not with the president were at the golf course in Fo76 and so on. Thing is, they assumed they'd all be in communication with each other, coordinate their reclamation of the US and fully defeat the Reds. But oops, the war was so destructive that the communications were nearly impossible, so each devolved into what they are when encountered in game. Even the pre war companies that weren't directly part of the Enclave had some kind of post war thinking, but again, none of it worked out because the war and the aftermath were so much more than what they were expecting. Even if Vault Tech did do something to hasten it, I don't think they explicitly dropped any bombs, there would be no need. You just need to get the US or China to act first, then profit. One thing is LA was one of the most nuked areas of the US, more than DC or NYC. Probably due to it being the biggest metroplex in the country, and it being the closest major city to china.
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Sharkopath posted:and characters still mention those issues in dialog. Oh I must have missed those. Guildencrantz posted:Okay I get that Maximus is supposed to be kinda dumb with poo poo social skills... but they definitely could have shaved a few seconds off of all the instances of his sitting there tongue-tied whenever he needs to use his words. The actor sells it and all but it's frustrating to watch. I liked Maximus' whole deal myself. You can read the character like a book and it's a testament to the actor's skill. I also loved the bridge scene, and his performance there is a big part of it.
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Ep6-8 https://twitter.com/TKsMantis/status/1780633238651978095?t=G3Li8Mqi2yLVa7brkzloSA&s=19 New Todd Howard interview confirms Shady Sands was nuked after New Vegas, not before.
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BrotherJayne posted:Not gonna lie, any scene of him being a (step)dad had my heart melting it bit The brother is 4'11" in real life - anyone will look like a giant next to him.
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zoux posted:Oh I must have missed those. Fallout 76 goes into this explicitly, but Fallout 4 is the first glimpse of pre-war america we get. Its idealized suburbia but when the game starts you realise half the people there were doing illegal things to get on by.
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Cojawfee posted:Vault Tec Nixoned the war with China to benefit themselves. Who got the pandas?
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Arc Hammer posted:New Vegas has a pretty slow opening, true. Can't even sprint ffs! I'm thinking about trying FO4, but with that big update coming out in a couple of weeks, I should probably wait for that. How's FO3 play on modern systems? e: oh I didn't realize that FO3 is even older than NV, guess I'll wait until next week. zoux fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Apr 17, 2024 |
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I think the recommended way to play FO3 is through that TTW mod that takes a few hours to set up that plays FO3 in the FNV game.
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zoux posted:Can't even sprint ffs! I'm thinking about trying FO4, but with that big update coming out in a couple of weeks, I should probably wait for that. How's FO3 play on modern systems? Recommend the JAM (Just Assorted Mods) collection which includes things like a functional sprint button.
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FO4 is running like poo poo for me on a 1070 and i5 6500 - more than enough for that game. I wonder if it's the ultrawide mod loving it up - maybe ill stick with bars.
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Arc Hammer posted:Recommend the JAM (Just Assorted Mods) collection which includes things like a functional sprint button. Playing controller unfortunately and there's no room (and the menu is on the B button and you have to scroll around to get to the map every time, did they even know how to make games in 2010)
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Has Kyle MacLachlan played a bad guy before - no Paul Atreides doesn't count
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zoux posted:Has Kyle MacLachlan played a bad guy before - no Paul Atreides doesn't count The John Goodman Flinstones movie.
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Twin Peaks: The Return
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zoux posted:Has Kyle MacLachlan played a bad guy before - no Paul Atreides doesn't count He was the bad husband to Bree in Desperate Housewives
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TontoCorazon posted:While I think your in the right spot with this, I think it's also the fact that he probably holds a massive grudge with anything to do with Vault Tec oh yeah, completely correct. Schubalts posted:He tried to pressure her to drink muddy puddle water, but when she finally drinks, it's from the same rusted, radioactive bucket he just filled his canteen from. yeah but he's doing this to rub her nose in it (literally), he knows he can drink it/how dirty HE is. Flesh Forge fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Apr 17, 2024 |
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I feel like New Vegas starts quickly, you got shot and wake up and make your character and then you're free to explore and maybe try to follow the guy who shot you? Gameplay I found all Fallouts feel like they were made a decade before they were made.
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zoux posted:Can't even sprint ffs! I'm thinking about trying FO4, but with that big update coming out in a couple of weeks, I should probably wait for that. How's FO3 play on modern systems? there are mods that add that sort of thing and you can (should) tweak the game to run as you like it.
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Yeah if you think NV has a slow start both 3 and 4 have longer unskippable intro sequences. NV allows you to skip its tutorial even though you *should* do it anyway since it's practically free XP.
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Bright Bart posted:What makes you think that? Because he saved a dog, even if it was after he stabbed said dog. Screen writing 101. Shows there's good in him.
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