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NYT preview of the hush-money case: Will a Mountain of Evidence Be Enough to Convict Trump? Original (paywalled) URL: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/21/nyregion/trump-trial-hush-money-evidence.html quote:In the official record, the case is known as the People of the State of New York v. Donald J. Trump, and, for now, the people have the stronger hand: They have insider witnesses, a favorable jury pool and a lurid set of facts about a presidential candidate, a payoff and a porn star.
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LeeMajors posted:That is true but you’ve got a gradient of burns out from the full thickness portions. Yeah, my best friend did burn therapy in a top tier burn center for a while, and has determined the precise point where they'd prefer to be killed rather than live to see treatment. Major burns are unbelievably bad.
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Liquid Communism posted:Yeah, my best friend did burn therapy in a top tier burn center for a while, and has determined the precise point where they'd prefer to be killed rather than live to see treatment. Major burns are unbelievably bad. I don’t want to be rude or derail-y, but I really wanna know when that is now.
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It's about 37.
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Xiahou Dun posted:I don’t want to be rude or derail-y, but I really wanna know when that is now. Well, from my personal experience with burns, it's at least worse than having your hand set ablaze and cooked. And that was pretty freakin' bad as it was.
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Liquid Communism posted:Yeah, my best friend did burn therapy in a top tier burn center for a while, and has determined the precise point where they'd prefer to be killed rather than live to see treatment. Major burns are unbelievably bad. Having suffered a 3rd degree burn on a large chunk of my back I can say they are very very painful. Not quite beg for death pain and it certainly didn't get into my lungs but I would take broken bones over burns any time anywhere. Burns are horrific and there is no way out.
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withak posted:It's about 37.
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Assuming the burns are on an extremity, at what point do doctors go ‘gently caress it’ and amputate? Because it sounds like if a large enough area is affected the theoretical chance of saving it is not worth the practical problems.
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You know, I understand now why the GBS Trump thread made talking about that dude off-limits.
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Yeah, this isn’t fun to read.
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Agents are GO! posted:You know, I understand now why the GBS Trump thread made talking about that dude off-limits. Trump?
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Fuschia tude posted:Trump? Yep, threads so much happier now. Just a nice happy place to post about happy things.
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dr_rat posted:Yep, threads so much happier now. Just a nice happy place to post about happy things. Post everytime you just LOL because life is good
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Any place have a good running summation of the trial? One thing twitter was good for was following along stuff like that, but lol logging onto twitter for any reason ever.
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davecrazy posted:Any place have a good running summation of the trial? NYT has live updates from the reporters in the courtroom. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/04/22/nyregion/trump-hush-money-trial Trump's attorney is off to a strong start. quote:"I have a spoiler alert: There’s nothing wrong with trying to influence an election," Blanche says. "It’s called democracy." quote:Blanche seeks to have the jurors relate to his client, as he says Trump is doing “what any of us would do.” Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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e:fb https://twitter.com/innercitypress/status/1782431808325325047 https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1782418210333118637 OgNar fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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davecrazy posted:Any place have a good running summation of the trial? quote:At present, in advance of openings, judge Juan Merchan is instructing jurors on the law. quote:As judge Juan Merchan continued with his instruction to jurors, a brief flicker of humor emerged. quote:Donald Trump has been frowning while Manhattan DA prosecutor Matthew Colangelo tells the jury about Trump’s alleged affair with Stormy Daniels. quote:And now it’s the defense’s turn.
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davecrazy posted:Any place have a good running summation of the trial? Hate to say it, but the GBS Trump thread is doing really well with trial updates this morning. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4051238&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=2060
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quote:Blanche explains why they all call Trump “President Trump,” saying he’s earned it and it’s the office he’s held. Then he mentions that Trump is the presumptive Republican nominee. They should keep calling him "former president trump" just to increase the chance he dies of outrage in the middle of the courtroom
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"The bonding company is good for it because I put up the money" You can trust me, i'm Donald Trump. https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1782401277068034151
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Are objections (all sustained) to opening statements rare? Because it just happened several times toward the defense. I don’t follow a lot of law proceedings, but that doesn’t seem common.
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Ragequit posted:Are objections (all sustained) to opening statements rare? Because it just happened several times toward the defense. I don’t follow a lot of law proceedings, but that doesn’t seem common. It's a very high standard to sustain such an objection. In this case they're all because the attorney is saying poo poo that was already ruled inadmissible and could potentially cause a mistrial.
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OgNar posted:"The bonding company is good for it because I put up the money" What time is the bond hearing?
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McGlockenshire posted:What time is the bond hearing? The Hush-Money case is doing a half-day and should be ending in just a couple minutes. I'm assuming this is related to the bond hearing and it's gonna be this afternoon. But you know how assumptions go. They just make an rear end out of "u" and "mption".
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Xiahou Dun posted:The Hush-Money case is doing a half-day and should be ending in just a couple minutes. I'm assuming this is related to the bond hearing and it's gonna be this afternoon. Bond hearing already happened this morning. The hush money case is doing a half day because of passover I think. Trump's bond was approved but they changed it so he couldn't move the money around after the bond was accepted. For some reason that was a possibility before.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:It's a very high standard to sustain such an objection. In this case they're all because the attorney is saying poo poo that was already ruled inadmissible and could potentially cause a mistrial. So we're on track for more wild poo poo-dribblings coming out of the mind of Trump and through the mouth of his attorney? It sounded like they had a lid on him and were presenting a sober, normally functional defense for a little bit there with the initial messages coming out but getting shut down for spouting conspiracy bullshit they were already specifically told not to say is much more in line with the new normal.
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Might've started after citizen Trump shared his note I'm guessing the note said the equivalent of "commit legalistic seppuku" and his lawyers just went along with it to keep their baby client happy
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beerinator posted:Bond hearing already happened this morning. The hush money case is doing a half day because of passover I think. Well that’s loving dumb. Thanks for keeping me honest though! That’s nice.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:It's a very high standard to sustain such an objection. In this case they're all because the attorney is saying poo poo that was already ruled inadmissible and could potentially cause a mistrial. God help the attorney who causes a mistrial during opening arguments. Even if they don't mistrial, they are giving a bad first impression to the jury.
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beerinator posted:Bond hearing already happened this morning. The hush money case is doing a half day because of passover I think. Did they keep the thing where the bond company isn't on the hook for the bond, because it's Trump who agrees to pay and the company doesn't have the assets? What are they even going to do if Trump moves the money around?
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Is the cash account controlled by the monitor?
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Fart Amplifier posted:Did they keep the thing where the bond company isn't on the hook for the bond, because it's Trump who agrees to pay and the company doesn't have the assets? That's part of the problem. The financial terms of Trump giving them money gave him 48 hours before the "bond" company could take the money. I.e. enough time to switch accounts.
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Ynglaur posted:That's part of the problem. The financial terms of Trump giving them money gave him 48 hours before the "bond" company could take the money. I.e. enough time to switch accounts. Yeah, and if I'm understanding the resolution it was simply that as of today the money is solely in the possession of the bond company. Which, while not as dramatic as we would all hope, it is a decent resolution.
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https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1782257959675773040 https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1782461062454939922
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I can't even fathom spending the last 1/3 of my life sitting in court just about every single day.
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Fart Amplifier posted:Did they keep the thing where the bond company isn't on the hook for the bond, because it's Trump who agrees to pay and the company doesn't have the assets? haveblue posted:Is the cash account controlled by the monitor? Retro42 posted:Yeah, and if I'm understanding the resolution it was simply that as of today the money is solely in the possession of the bond company. Which, while not as dramatic as we would all hope, it is a decent resolution.
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Retro42 posted:Yeah, and if I'm understanding the resolution it was simply that as of today the money is solely in the possession of the bond company. Which, while not as dramatic as we would all hope, it is a decent resolution. Practically it seems like the only effect of the bond is that Trump paid them 1% to put up the bond (per the WP) while his cash account can continue making 5% interest. In contrast to putting the money up directly in which case I assume he wouldn’t get the interest. Seems like standard rich person shenanigans.
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Keep up, partner. Posted already with greater content and context.
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It's also clearly fake
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