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Ginger Beer Belly posted:My favorite QB bust is Christian Hackenberg, because a lot of people knew he was terrible, but someone was still going to draft him with a premium pick because he looked the part of the big cannon-armed pocket passer. Hackenberg was terrible in college.
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R.D. Mangles posted:Hackenberg was terrible in college. I remember a lot of Texans fans reacting in horror to all the mock drafts that had them drafting Hackenberg because Bill O'Briien was going to want to reunite with his college QB. Turns out BOB knew better.
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R.D. Mangles posted:Hackenberg was terrible in college. Pretty sure watching Hackenberg took literal years off my dad's life.
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Christian Ponder and EJ Manuel being back to back Florida State 1st round draft pick quarterbacks is so loving funny, why the hell did those dudes go so high man do NOT quote this post in the future if Jordan Travis busts
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kidcoelacanth posted:i completely memory holed christian ponder I will always remember Ponder for giving us the chance to FREE JOE WEBB!
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Alaois posted:Christian Ponder and EJ Manuel being back to back Florida State 1st round draft pick quarterbacks is so loving funny, why the hell did those dudes go so high man Ponder had a chance to be good but wrecked his shoulder in college and still got picked high. EJ Manuel was always going to be bad and Jimbo even said he never should've been a first round pick. Jordan Travis rules and it sucks he got his leg destroyed on a cheap rear end hip drop tackle.
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Ginger Beer Belly posted:My favorite QB bust is Christian Hackenberg, because a lot of people knew he was terrible, but someone was still going to draft him with a premium pick because he looked the part of the big cannon-armed pocket passer. Did he ever get a single snap in a regular season game?
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Ginger Beer Belly posted:My favorite QB bust is Christian Hackenberg, because a lot of people knew he was terrible, but someone was still going to draft him with a premium pick because he looked the part of the big cannon-armed pocket passer. My favorite nugget in that infamous article is that he was off target on over fifteen percent of WIDE RECEIVER SCREENS. You know, the play that's supposed to be so easy to complete that it's an extension of the run game, the passing equivalent of a hand off.
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Hack managed to get benched in the AAF. He was too bad to play in spring football leagues.
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Alaois posted:Christian Ponder and EJ Manuel being back to back Florida State 1st round draft pick quarterbacks is so loving funny, why the hell did those dudes go so high man He just didn't have much in terms of pocket awareness, struggled to get through progressions, had shoddy mechanics, and tended to meltdown spectacularly for quarters at a time if he made a mistake (which was often, of course).
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Stealing this chart from the AFCE thread so more people can get outraged over various team ratings https://twitter.com/MikeClayNFL/status/1782782251228389833 Ginger Beer Belly posted:My favorite QB bust is Christian Hackenberg, because a lot of people knew he was terrible, but someone was still going to draft him with a premium pick because he looked the part of the big cannon-armed pocket passer. My favorite Hack Fact is that he’s on LinkedIn as a salesman for some tech reseller in Pennsylvania. Imagine calling these guys up to buy some firewalls or whatever and loving Hackenberg picks up the phone lmao.
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Kurgarra Queen posted:EJ was good size, had a great arm, and could scramble pretty well, so he had all the physical tools. On top of that he was doomed to be coached by a fresh faced Nate Hackett his first two years and then a Rex Ryan/Greg Roman team desperate to move on from him.
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Docjowles posted:Stealing this chart from the AFCE thread so more people can get outraged over various team ratings Not really outraged whatsoever but I guess the Panthers and Jets are quite a bit higher up than I would've thought. Raiders and Steelers stand out to me for being significantly too low.
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Docjowles posted:Stealing this chart from the AFCE thread so more people can get outraged over various team ratings What a goofy chart. The bears have Tyson Bagent and Rypien at QB on the roster yet rated higher than a bunch of other teams
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Docjowles posted:Stealing this chart from the AFCE thread so more people can get outraged over various team ratings
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Did the Jets not ask for an investigation into tampering with Hardman by the Chiefs?
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Play posted:Not really outraged whatsoever but I guess the Panthers and Jets are quite a bit higher up than I would've thought. Raiders and Steelers stand out to me for being significantly too low. Rodgers being the Jets QB and being rated a 3.5 on whatever scale that is is, uh, optimistic. Maybe he’ll bounce back but already being projected by these guys as the 5th best QB?
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Thaddius the Large posted:Rodgers being the Jets QB and being rated a 3.5 on whatever scale that is is, uh, optimistic. Maybe he’ll bounce back but already being projected by these guys as the 5th best QB? maybe he gets extra points for believing that HIV was manufactured in a lab
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Maybe he counts depth and Tyrod is certainly better than Zach Wilson.
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Rodgers is probably still a really good QB if he actually plays. Huge if, though.
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Docjowles posted:Stealing this chart from the AFCE thread so more people can get outraged over various team ratings Packers are being underrated badly here at WR and OL and IMO overrated on defense. Like there's no way the Packers WR room is just barely better than the Chiefs'. lol at the 0.1 grades here btw. Seems to be one for every column: Commanders 0.1 QB, Cowboys 0.1 RB, Cardinals 0.1 WR, Panthers 0.1 TE, Seahawks 0.1 OL. Chargers 0.1 DI, Falcons 0.1 ED, Titans 0.1 LB, Giants 0.1 CB and Safety.
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There's a huge, huge range of outcomes with Rodgers this season. I wouldn't be *totally* shocked if he played like a top 5-8 QB, and I wouldn't be shocked at all if he is completely washed after the achilles tear. I think last year you could reasonably hope for/expect him to play somewhere between his MVP years and his 2022 season, but this year all bets are off. If he's even solid, though, the Jets should be good.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Wait, these aren't grades, they're rankings. #32 is 0.1, #1 is 4.0. What a terrible chart
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SKULL.GIF posted:Wait, these aren't grades, they're rankings. #32 is 0.1, #1 is 4.0. What a terrible chart Oh that makes way more sense.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Wait, these aren't grades, they're rankings. #32 is 0.1, #1 is 4.0. What a terrible chart I think it's supposed to be like a GPA. 4.0 = A = best, 0 = F. I don't know why he thought this was the best way to present it
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on this day, 14 years ago, the denver broncos traded a bunch of picks to the ravens in exchange for the right to draft tim tebow
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trevorreznik posted:What a goofy chart. The bears have Tyson Bagent and Rypien at QB on the roster yet rated higher than a bunch of other teams Caleb is so lucky to have Bagent there to teach him how to be a quarterback.
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Dramatika posted:if Tim Tebow has a thought is it Christian Ponder Hello new best friend.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:In either case they're still bad. The Seahawks dont have the worst OL, the Jags definitely do not have the 2nd worst OL, the Bengals do not have the 2nd worst RBs, ect I doubt it’s the absolute worst OL in the league but the Seahawks line is really bad because the interior is so poo poo. Left Tackle is a good “A-“ player and young. Right Tackle is a good “B” player and young… except he’s had serious injuries and we don’t know if he’s going to bounce back. The interior was garbage in 2023. I could believe that the 2023 IOL was competing for the worst in the league. The IOL was such an Achilles heel that the unit effectively sandbagged an otherwise talented and playoff-worthy offense. And the current 2024 IOL looks worse because the team lost the best of the IOL in this FA. Cribbing from The Athletic, regarding the state of affairs for Seattle: quote:Interior offensive line: Seattle’s projected starting interior offensive line is currently left guard Tremayne Anchrum Jr. (one career start), either Nick Harris (four starts) or Olu Oluwatimi (one start) at center and right guard Anthony Bradford (10 starts). RG Bradford might have enough talent to warrant letting him play the seasons and hope his sophomore season is a step forward. LG and C though… woof. Seahawks have a lot of holes but the deepest holes are at IOL. Draft Fautanu or a Center!!
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Ornery and Hornery posted:How is the Jets OL rated so high. Are they assuming a complete, healthy season from the former Cowboy?
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Rodgers is going to be fine and probably play just below his normal elite level. I know everyone hates him but he's still a first ballot hall of famer and even at 80% he's better than most to ever do it.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Its assumed a healthy depth chart, but outside LG their line is “assuming healthy player” pretty drat stout this year. What do yo think the odds are that the Jets OL today makes it to opening day healthy? I'll go like 55% lol
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