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Sancho Banana posted:Responded to with a harsh letter, I'm sure I don't think they'll just "strongly condemn". An invasion of Rafah will be a huge disaster. the EAF started remilitarizing Sinai months ago, and their two heavy-hitting armor divisions were/are in the process of being staged in Sinai months ago.
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lol so basically egypt will do nothing and are OK with letting israel invade rafah
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Al-Saqr posted:lol so basically egypt will do nothing and are OK with letting israel invade rafah You seem way too cynical. From my point of view, Everyone in Egypt --except for one man, Sisi -- wants war with Israel. Thus war is inevitable. Sisi will pull the trigger, or the Egyptian army officers will pull the trigger on him
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here is the expanded interview the AP did with the Hamas Spokesperson ==== Hamas ready to reach a 5-year truce and will not hand over prisoners before the war ends Hamas Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) leader Khalil al-Hayya said the movement was ready to agree to a 5-year or more truce with Israel. Al-Hayya stated in statements to the Associated Press that Hamas is ready to lay dow arms and turn into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established on the 67-year borders. He revealed that the movement will accept a fully sovereign Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip and the return of Palestinian refugees in accordance with international resolutions on Israel's pre-1967 border. He pointed out that Hamas wants to join the PLO. Al-Hayya said that all the experiences of the militants against the occupiers at independence and their access to their rights and their state turned into political parties and the fighting forces defending them turned into the national army. Rafah attack On Israeli threats to attack the city of Rafah, south of the Gaza Strip, the Hamas leader said the attack "will not succeed in destroying Hamas." Al-Hayya revealed in an interview with The Associated Press that “contacts between the Hamas political leadership abroad and the military leadership in Gaza have not been interrupted by the war and that the contacts, decisions and directives are made in consultation between the two sides.” He explained that the Israeli occupation forces "did not destroy more than 20% of Hamas' capabilities, both human or field." Truce negotiations On the prisoners' negotiations, Al-Hayya stressed that Hamas wants Qatar to continue its role as a mediator, revealing at the same time that there will be no intention on the movement to move its political office from the Qatari capital, Doha. “Hamas has made concessions regarding the number of Palestinian prisoners it wants to release in exchange for the remaining Israeli hostages,” the Hayya explained, noting that “the movement does not know exactly how many detainees are still in Gaza and are still alive.” He stressed that “Hamas will not back down from its demand for a permanent ceasefire and the complete withdrawal of Israeli forces,” and questioned the feasibility of handing over prisoners to the resistance “if we are not sure that the war is over.” After the aggression In the context of talking about the arrangements after the aggression on Gaza, the leader, who headed the negotiating delegation in the truce talks, stressed that Hamas "categorically rejects any non-Palestinian presence in Gaza, whether at sea or land," articing that it will treat any "military force present in these Israeli or other places as an occupying power." Al-Hayya explained that the movement does not regret the attacks of the Battle of the Al-Aqsa Flood last October 7 despite the destruction in Gaza, noting that "the operation succeeded in achieving its goal of restoring the world's interest in the Palestinian cause," stressing in the same strength that the fighters of the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades if they target "civilians in the attack." He said Israeli attempts to eliminate Hamas “will ultimately fail” to prevent future Palestinian armed uprisings. https://www.aljazeera.net/news/2024...31610;&%231577; Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 09:04 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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western media are starting to report on the mass graves at nasser and al-shifa. i've seen a couple of articles on nz news, and the guardian has posted a video report (shows people in body bags, but no actual bodies): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTNKu7DtKsY
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sounds like china might try to make a political effort happen ==== Beijing: Correct the historical injustice suffered by the Palestinian people Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi to Al Jazeera: The conflict in Gaza has crossed the red line of modern civilization and urgent action by the international community is required. The historical injustice suffered by the Palestinian people must be corrected because it is a radical solution to the conflict. We will work with the international community to mobilize efforts to implement a ceasefire and secure access to aid. The top priority is to push for a ceasefire and prevent fighting as soon as possible. The spillover of the conflict must be prevented from spilling over to prevent the situation in the region from spiralling out of control. https://www.aljazeera.net/news/live...%B3%D8%A7%D9%85
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Shageletic posted:Are you talking about the Stanford prison experiment? Didn't that turn out to be a fraud? robbers cave experiment showed how to create an in-group/out-group environment
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just dropping into say a very quick death to Israel, death to America, may justice prevail and cleanse the world of fascism, have a nice day
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bedpan posted:after saying the graves don't exist they are going to say hamas killed the people Nay, in true Israeli fashion. The story ping ponged a few more times. “They killed them selves” “They were human shields” “It was a Hamas rocket” And now, “Yeah we killed them, they were terrorists” This is including the body of children found, as well as medical patients with casts and amputations. Totally rational and makes sense. https://x.com/lowkey0nline/status/1783431881444258051?s=46 CheetoVonTito has issued a correction as of 11:19 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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Also, Clare Daly FTW! https://x.com/claredalymep/status/1783193293586563480?s=46
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CheetoVonTito posted:Also, Clare Daly Marc Botenga (belgian communist) was pretty good as well. in french but I think you'll get the jist of it. https://twitter.com/BotengaM/status/1782827279598465235 translation posted:Madam Speaker, today, in Gaza, every day, mass graves and mass graves are discovered, a symbol of any genocide. Hundreds of bodies, sometimes in medical uniforms, sometimes apparently handcuffed, summarily executed. We see images of children shredded around a table football. double nine has issued a correction as of 11:48 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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From the perspective of someone who's actually been in and around them, the protest groups are extremely anti-liberalism and anti-capitalism. We can argue about how effective that rhetoric is, but mass media is never going to give you a clear depiction of the students' positions. For those snickering from the peanut gallery, keep in mind that of the 20 or so schools with encampments, only 3 are ivy leagues - Cal Poly Humboldt, of the water jug boinking fame, is like the opposite of an ivy league - and even at places like Columbia the protests aren't being driven by the richest and whitest students, who broadly don't give a poo poo. Many of the organizers are themselves Palestinian. I have no illusions that these movements will affect public policy, nor that they're as radical as something like the Black Panthers, but also, that radicalism doesn't get born overnight - you don't get something like a general strike by a mass of randos waking up in the morning and thinking "huh, a general strike sounds fun." I think it's a fine plan to build momentum in that direction via increasingly confrontational direct actions, as has now literally been achieved with the Texas professors going on strike. Doomerism about how nothing matters ever in the metropole is a thousand times more useless to any cause you claim to advance. I'll eat a probe for this if needed, it's just been annoying the poo poo out of me. youcallthatatwist has issued a correction as of 11:50 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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Weka posted:I'm not sure but I've been kicking around an idea in my head about how countries like Italy and Germany's descent into fascism was arguably caused by a part of the creation of a unified national identity around a century after their formation, like there is some tendency in the creation of a nation from smaller national or other groups to result in fascism or similar ideologies Toynbee said that when national formation takes place when multinational empires already exist in the area, it creates a "scrappy" minor power that sees its national destiny as war to unite the nationality under one flag. So he cites Serbia and Montenegro as obsessed with the Yugoslav project because they formed outside of Austria-Hungary, and saw their national destiny as endless war to unite their fellow slavs across the border. Certainly Bismarck saw Prussia and the German Empire that way, via a via Austria as well, hence 1866. Piedmont saw itself that way in Italy, hence... 1866. So that would explain the Third's Reich's attitude where Sudaten Germans and Volksdeutsche were concerned. Japan, though, was the Japanese community in Korea and Manchuria created by the Empire's expansion, or did they, like the above, expand with the goal of unified control over all of the lands with a Japanese community? youcallthatatwist posted:From the perspective of someone who's actually been in and around them, the protest groups are extremely anti-liberalism and anti- capitalism. The confusion is probably that liberalism and capitalism have specific meanings if someone is speaking in terms of Marxist theory versus what they mean in every day life. Someone can dislike (the current iterations of) liberalism and capitalism, which would make them "anti", but is not the same as having a coherent opposing ideology and revolutionary goals. As in the replacement of the current mode of production and political organization, not just, you know, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Anyway, these Israelis seem kinda cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cEzV1Ce8NU DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 11:53 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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youcallthatatwist posted:From the perspective of someone who's actually been in and around them, the protest groups are extremely anti-liberalism and anti-capitalism. We can argue about how effective that rhetoric is, but mass media is never going to give you a clear depiction of the students' positions. good post. shan't be probing this.
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IRG catfish game appears to be on point https://twitter.com/IranObserver0/status/1783368689430987136
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Autisanal Cheese posted:the people of Palestine will never be defeated
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Wait- why Hebron? What’s the significance here? https://x.com/me_observer_/status/1783455241536504246?s=46 https://x.com/qudsnen/status/1783454846844125415?s=46
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captainbananas posted:IRG catfish game appears to be on point Sounds totally legitimate.
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I got probed for  yesterday, so I just want to commit penance by saying DTI, DTA, Free palestine.
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CheetoVonTito posted:Wait- why Hebron? The significance is they are showing they can storm mosques whenever and wherever they like.
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captainbananas posted:IRG catfish game appears to be on point I showed you my missile defense system plz respond
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captainbananas posted:IRG catfish game appears to be on point That’s an awesome romance transaction Pics of miltech for virtual smooch loving
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Jon Carbuncle posted:robbers cave experiment showed how to create an in-group/out-group environment Looked into it seems to have been insanely manipulated: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/apr/16/a-real-life-lord-of-the-flies-the-troubling-legacy-of-the-robbers-cave-experiment Feels like the natural instinct of humans in any situation is to band together. Free Palestine.
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CheetoVonTito posted:Wait- why Hebron? It's one of the most segregated places on earth and actually had families living underground because they're not allowed to live at street level. I guess it's because they can.
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Egg Moron posted:That’s an awesome romance transaction mildom
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Shageletic posted:Looked into it seems to have been insanely manipulated: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/apr/16/a-real-life-lord-of-the-flies-the-troubling-legacy-of-the-robbers-cave-experiment yep it’s a pretty messed up experiment. I did think it was neat on how they were able to get the kids to band together during week 3. also DTI, DTA Palestine forever
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youcallthatatwist posted:From the perspective of someone who's actually been in and around them, the protest groups are extremely anti-liberalism and anti-capitalism. We can argue about how effective that rhetoric is, but mass media is never going to give you a clear depiction of the students' positions. excellent post, gently caress doomerism
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Jon Carbuncle posted:yep it’s a pretty messed up experiment. I did think it was neat on how they were able to get the kids to band together during week 3. behavioral science in the 50s-70s was some wild west mad scientist poo poo
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captainbananas posted:IRG catfish game appears to be on point sweet dave, not again!!
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CheetoVonTito posted:Can we all, collectively take a second to praise this king right here?! cool
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So the movement is growing. So far I’ve accumulated this list of universities protesting: US: New York University (NYU) Columbia University of Rochester University of California at Berkeley University of Southern California (USC) California State Polytechnic University Yale Emerson College Cornell George Washington University (GWU) Northwestern University University of Maryland Harvard University Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) Tufts University of Delaware University of Michigan University of Minnesota Princeton University of New Mexico Ohio State University (OSU) University of North Carolina (UNC) Chapel Hill University of North Carolina (UNC) Charlotte Temple University University of Pittsburgh Brown University Vanderbilt Florida international University Texas A&M - College Station University of Texas - Austin University of Texas at Dallas Indiana University Purdue International: Sorbonne University- Paris Sciences Po- France University of Sydney- Australia University of Melbourne- Australia Ankara University- Turkyè Granted- wish some UK based schools would join.
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CheetoVonTito posted:So the movement is growing. UPenn is starting today at the button
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LSU and Tulane are also protesting, Tulane has the highest Jewish student population of any university besides religious universities.
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RadiRoot posted:serious question but without US burger involvement this thread wouldnt loving exist right? shut up
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RadiRoot posted:serious question but without US burger involvement israel wouldnt loving exist right?
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