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LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer

tarbrush posted:

Finished honour mode! Didn't do Cazador, House of Hope or Grief and blew Gale up so the ending felt a bit lovely, but I have the dice. It's amazing how much of a wrench it is letting down these collections of pixels and voices even when you've saved them properly the first two times round.

I'm tempted to only play honour going forward, it really adds something to the game having to accept your fuckups. I saw so much content that I never would have in tactician. The only issue is when you get the odd bug or the game mechanics don't work how you expect, but they're sufficiently rare that you can power through

I haven't finished honor mode yet, but next time I play it's going to be on tactician with no savescumming. That's really the only part of honor mode I like. The game's a lot more immersive when I'm not relying on the F8 key to get out of every small jam.

I haven't used Gale, Halsin, or Wyll in three plays, so that's my team next time.

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Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

LifeLynx posted:

I haven't finished honor mode yet, but next time I play it's going to be on tactician with no savescumming. That's really the only part of honor mode I like. The game's a lot more immersive when I'm not relying on the F8 key to get out of every small jam.

I haven't used Gale, Halsin, or Wyll in three plays, so that's my team next time.

Yeah same. I’m still chasing the gold dice so for now I’m sticking with what I know. But if I ever finish I would like to do a run with the companions and classes I never use. Have hardly touched Druid and ranger at all. Not used paladin too much either. Probably with the mod that turns tactician into honor mode but without the single save.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
I had what felt like a classic D&D encounter. Secret cellar that had a secret passage to what seemed like a benign cavern. Decided to open an old coffin and there was a BOOM and out popped a skeleton, taking my party by surprise. And this was not a shambling sort of skeleton, but a spry rear end in a top hat of a skeleton who began dashing around the room and bashing open other coffins and in short order my party was outnumbered by these higher level bony shitheads. Everything went downhill from there and I had to reload, but still... if I'd just left that coffin alone I expect things would've gone differently, unless after my reload I'm about to do something else that wakes them all up again.

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015

Docjowles posted:

Is he wearing the arcane acuity hat? With how many attacks bards get that can really pump up your spell save DC to an insane degree.

It was probably something like this. He's a College of Swords Bard, and I remember hoarding some of the various gear that would let spells and physical attacks pump each other up (a lot of it from the Creche), and gave it to him once I made him a Bard.

Dick Trauma posted:

I had what felt like a classic D&D encounter. Secret cellar that had a secret passage to what seemed like a benign cavern. Decided to open an old coffin and there was a BOOM and out popped a skeleton, taking my party by surprise. And this was not a shambling sort of skeleton, but a spry rear end in a top hat of a skeleton who began dashing around the room and bashing open other coffins and in short order my party was outnumbered by these higher level bony shitheads. Everything went downhill from there and I had to reload, but still... if I'd just left that coffin alone I expect things would've gone differently, unless after my reload I'm about to do something else that wakes them all up again.

There's something special in that room that can get you a permanent friend :)

Ghislaine of YOSPOS
Apr 19, 2020

my second honor mode run ended at level 3 again after flinging poop in a goblins face. his buddies sounded the drum, I should have ran for it. you really have to plot this poo poo out huh.

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:

my second honor mode run ended at level 3 again after flinging poop in a goblins face. his buddies sounded the drum, I should have ran for it. you really have to plot this poo poo out huh.

yes. my first solo hm attempt ended with a double crit from edowyn's idiot siblings. you'll get those golden dice yet. :cheersdoge:

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

LifeLynx posted:

I haven't finished honor mode yet, but next time I play it's going to be on tactician with no savescumming. That's really the only part of honor mode I like. The game's a lot more immersive when I'm not relying on the F8 key to get out of every small jam.

I haven't used Gale, Halsin, or Wyll in three plays, so that's my team next time.

For me it's been the opposite, the appeal in Honour Mode has been the souped up fights with cool new mechanics and the tweaks that fix damage riders. I'm not personally much enamoured with the "no reloads" thing, it feel like it's forced some incredibly cautious play from me that's been occasionally kind of tedious. I'll get my golden dice and in future see if I can get a mod to give me the honour mode difficulty changes without the single save file.

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

Dick Trauma posted:

I had what felt like a classic D&D encounter. Secret cellar that had a secret passage to what seemed like a benign cavern. Decided to open an old coffin and there was a BOOM and out popped a skeleton, taking my party by surprise. And this was not a shambling sort of skeleton, but a spry rear end in a top hat of a skeleton who began dashing around the room and bashing open other coffins and in short order my party was outnumbered by these higher level bony shitheads. Everything went downhill from there and I had to reload, but still... if I'd just left that coffin alone I expect things would've gone differently, unless after my reload I'm about to do something else that wakes them all up again.

Take a peek at what is directly above some of those coffins if the skeletons were giving you trouble

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer

Reveilled posted:

For me it's been the opposite, the appeal in Honour Mode has been the souped up fights with cool new mechanics and the tweaks that fix damage riders. I'm not personally much enamoured with the "no reloads" thing, it feel like it's forced some incredibly cautious play from me that's been occasionally kind of tedious. I'll get my golden dice and in future see if I can get a mod to give me the honour mode difficulty changes without the single save file.

That's a good point, I've taken so long because I've been cautious about bugs causing instadeath. I had Lae'zel fall through a bridge once and needed Withers to get her back. Another time I glitched and multiple enemies were untargetable; I had to kill the process in task manager. Once I had to end the task to fix a broken mouse cursor and the game forced a save on me. A video game intercepting an "end task" from Windows to force its anti-savescumming tech is crazy to me.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

LifeLynx posted:

That's a good point, I've taken so long because I've been cautious about bugs causing instadeath. I had Lae'zel fall through a bridge once and needed Withers to get her back. Another time I glitched and multiple enemies were untargetable; I had to kill the process in task manager. Once I had to end the task to fix a broken mouse cursor and the game forced a save on me. A video game intercepting an "end task" from Windows to force its anti-savescumming tech is crazy to me.

Moving platforms are terrifying on honor mode. I’ve taken to doing “fox, chicken and wolf need to cross the river” puzzle back and forth poo poo to avoid ever having my whole party on at once in case they decide to randomly glitch off the edge. This has already saved my rear end several times lol.

Thankfully a lot of them have a waypoint on the far side so you only really need to send one dude across.

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer

Docjowles posted:

Moving platforms are terrifying on honor mode. I’ve taken to doing “fox, chicken and wolf need to cross the river” puzzle back and forth poo poo to avoid ever having my whole party on at once in case they decide to randomly glitch off the edge. This has already saved my rear end several times lol.

Thankfully a lot of them have a waypoint on the far side so you only really need to send one dude across.

There's also the times your party decides running through fire is the quickest way to get somewhere. Or an enemy's idle animation makes it so your cursor misses clicking on them, leading your squishy nerd character to run towards a pack of enemies at full sprint instead of casting Hold Person. Honestly if honor mode was a hard limit of maybe three reloads it'd be just as balanced.

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

BlazetheInferno posted:

There's something special in that room that can get you a permanent friend :)

Aren't they only permanent if you learn the spell as a wizard?

feller
Jul 5, 2006


Floppychop posted:

Aren't they only permanent if you learn the spell as a wizard?

wizard, sorc, or warlock can get shovel by talking to them and picking the right options

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

LifeLynx posted:

There's also the times your party decides running through fire is the quickest way to get somewhere. Or an enemy's idle animation makes it so your cursor misses clicking on them, leading your squishy nerd character to run towards a pack of enemies at full sprint instead of casting Hold Person. Honestly if honor mode was a hard limit of maybe three reloads it'd be just as balanced.

This was my biggest frustration with the Grym fight, still learning a lot of the mechanics and hoooo boy let's run into the fire EVERY SINGLE TIME ASTARION

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Despite being named "Lump the Enlightened" the ogres are not particularly smart about avoiding the lava!

Black Noise
Jan 23, 2008

WHAT UP

This is because they nerfed the headband from EA because INT isn’t allowed to thrive :argh:

The Little Kielbasa
Mar 29, 2001

and another thing: im not mad. please dont put in the newspaper that i got mad.
I saved the goddamn world, you'd think Elminister or someone could toss me a Wish so I wouldn't have to look like a loving squid for the rest of my life.

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

Floppychop posted:

Aren't they only permanent if you learn the spell as a wizard?

You can also have Withers spec you into it and then spec back out after. Summon Shovel persists in your hot bar even if you spec back out of a caster class.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

SlimGoodbody posted:

You can also have Withers spec you into it and then spec back out after. Summon Shovel persists in your hot bar even if you spec back out of a caster class.

Yeah. I feel like this must have gotten patched at some point? There’s some Reddit posts of like 20 steps on how to get the summon whereas now my bard can just respec to wizard and get it no problem.

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015
...Okay, I'm assuming something weird is happening with my mods. But for some reason, one of the NPCs in Last Light Inn is being dragged into every combat I get into.

I'm in Moonrise Towers. What the hell, Cerys, chill out.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

SH is so hot in a hat

wizard2
Apr 4, 2022

exquisite tea posted:

Despite being named "Lump the Enlightened" the ogres are not particularly smart about avoiding the lava!

👀

Janissary Hop
Sep 2, 2012

The Little Kielbasa posted:

I saved the goddamn world, you'd think Elminister or someone could toss me a Wish so I wouldn't have to look like a loving squid for the rest of my life.

Wish sucks in 5e, Elminister knows cause he looks at his character sheet each edition.

wizard2
Apr 4, 2022

Janissary Hop posted:

Wish sucks in 5e, Elminister knows cause he looks at his character sheet each edition.

you know... I would prefer not to speculate upon the state of Ed Greenwood's actual real life character sheets and their state of decay/robustness of dippin' sauce collections

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

bird with big dick posted:

SH is so hot in a hat



yeah

once you start messing with changing hair on companions you quickly realize those bangs are camo

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Every female character gets that sassy glowup hair while wearing pointy hats, even Jaheira.

wizard2
Apr 4, 2022
Im at the very end of Act 2 with my meaniehead Durge.

Kressa Bonedaughter is so freaking good. also,

I knew what would happen and I killed Mizora in her pod and Wyll had an ignoble offscreen death but I went with it hehe :hehe:

wizard2
Apr 4, 2022

exquisite tea posted:

Every female character gets that sassy glowup hair while wearing pointy hats, even Jaheira.

I spec'd Laezel into Archery and rn she's wearing a leather cowboy hat 😳

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

LifeLynx posted:

That's a good point, I've taken so long because I've been cautious about bugs causing instadeath. I had Lae'zel fall through a bridge once and needed Withers to get her back. Another time I glitched and multiple enemies were untargetable; I had to kill the process in task manager. Once I had to end the task to fix a broken mouse cursor and the game forced a save on me. A video game intercepting an "end task" from Windows to force its anti-savescumming tech is crazy to me.

poo poo like this and bad UI are the reason why I'll never play these long games in any kind of iron man/honour mode.

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO
Any particular recommendations for an origins playthough? Tempted by Shart for doing a comedy Minty romance and general shar fuckery.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Shadowheart is a decent origin if you want to do an evil run without going Durge. You can even go something like 5 Gloomstalker / 4 Trickery Domain / 3 Assassin if you want to maintain her Sharran skillset while still bringing some main character damage. Nice thing about doing an evil origin run is that you get to bring all the baddies (SH, Lae'zel, Astarion, Minty) without having to switch them out. Her origin-specific scenes aren't as robust as Astarion's, though.

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO
That's cool, I've not done an evil run yet, but also I'm not sure I have the stomach for it.

Kawabata
Apr 20, 2014

You plebians just don't know what epic literature is. You should try reading Stephanie Meyer, E.L. James, Dan Brown, or Ayn Rand.
I'm starting to dread big fights - they're always so loving slow. I really don't get why enemy turns can't be sped up. There's a mod that does this but doesnt work as of current patch.

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


Kawabata posted:

I'm starting to dread big fights - they're always so loving slow. I really don't get why enemy turns can't be sped up. There's a mod that does this but doesnt work as of current patch.

during large fights i open tiktok and watch a few videos while enemy number 83736261 casts fury and i wait to hear the “bonk” i associate with my turn

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Although the cavern under the village is probably a bad place for me to be I did manage to survive the fight with the phase spiders and the weird humanoid spidery dudes. I handed out all my poison antidotes before hand but even so Shadowheart was downed by the last spider. If there's more spiders in here only my PC has poison resistance, but... I have a horn full of ogres just in case.

EDIT: The fight with the giant spider took about four reloads because I didn't understand the limitations of the ogres, like climbing. I wound up sneaking my whole team down to the lowest level to start the fight and then summoning the ogres. It was still a mess but I had to laugh in the middle of it when one of the ogres who had been getting poisoned by a horde of little spiders booted one into a chasm. When the giant spider teleported among us all I had the githyanki trip her and the imp familiar frighten her and then she didn't get any more actions before everyone managed to stomp her to death. At the end I tricked the ogre boss into sticking around for another battle, but I hope I get another chance to avoid paying since it's up to 2,500 gold now.

Dick Trauma fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Apr 28, 2024

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015

BlazetheInferno posted:

...Okay, I'm assuming something weird is happening with my mods. But for some reason, one of the NPCs in Last Light Inn is being dragged into every combat I get into.

I'm in Moonrise Towers. What the hell, Cerys, chill out.

Okay, so I've moved on a bit, doing other stuff around Act 2, and this is STILL HAPPENING. I assumed the mod I use to make my party members AI-controlled was behind it somehow, but it's still happening after disabling that mod. Anyone have any ideas as to what might be causing this? The game trying to load all the way over to Last Light Inn from the other side of the map and back once a round is really getting irritating.

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


BlazetheInferno posted:

Okay, so I've moved on a bit, doing other stuff around Act 2, and this is STILL HAPPENING. I assumed the mod I use to make my party members AI-controlled was behind it somehow, but it's still happening after disabling that mod. Anyone have any ideas as to what might be causing this? The game trying to load all the way over to Last Light Inn from the other side of the map and back once a round is really getting irritating.

does it have anything to do with failing the background constitution check while you’re talking to marcus? idk just spitballing.

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015

cash crab posted:

does it have anything to do with failing the background constitution check while you’re talking to marcus? idk just spitballing.

I dunno what check that could be - it didn't matter if I was on the other end of the zone fighting Shadows, or in the Jails of Moonrise Towers, Cerys is always in the combat, in the initiative orders, while all the way back in Last Light Inn. It gets to her turn, goes to a black screen as it goes to load over there for her turn, she does whatever (probably passes her turn), and it brings the camera back over to where we are for the actual battle before even finishing loading into Last Light Inn, and it has to load the terrain around me back in again because my computer is old and slow.

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


wait so like, if you’re in moonrise prison, she’s joining the fight all the way from the inn??

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Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

cash crab posted:

wait so like, if you’re in moonrise prison, she’s joining the fight all the way from the inn??

Look, remote work is becoming more and more accepted these days.

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