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Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Rejoice, every woman in this thread, this is what 30p Lee wants for us all!
Down on our knees, scrub scrub scrubbing those front door steps!
Lucky for me I don't have one as my front door opens in to a corridor.

(Sorry the image is a bit poo poo, I had to shrink the page to get it all on).



He wants his country back!

When you get so poor that having clean stones to your house is an aspirational event. :suicide:

As a teenager in the 1930s my mum was a housemaid (to a local doctor), if she were still around she'd crush his balls for saying that. :colbert:

edit: 221b baker street, violins & cocaine... solve the mystery. :iiam:

Just Another Lurker fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Apr 29, 2024

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

WaffleACAB posted:

Is that where you've been all this time??

"In the countryside with the duchess of pegging" sounds like a quite nice way to spend half a decade.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Just Another Lurker posted:

When you get so poor that having clean stones to your house is an aspirational event. :suicide:

As a teenager in the 1930s my mum was a housemaid (to a local doctor), if she were still around she'd crush his balls for saying that. :colbert:

edit: 221b baker street, violins & cocaine... solve the mystery. :iiam:

I thought you meant that you were a teenager in the 1930s for a second.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Miftan posted:

I thought you meant that you were a teenager in the 1930s for a second.

If i get to the 2040s i'll be very loving surprised . :rubby:

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles
https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1784895823735656891

Jesus this would leave the country basically ungovernable. I don't think a parliament like this could even swear in a First Minister, but if they manage it would be a Labour FM getting in on Tory votes presumably. And then the only coalitions that work require Labour or the SNP to work with the Tories or with each other, and I don't see either happening--a Lab-Con coalition would essentially be returning the ball to the SNP right after gaining possession, and an SNP-Labour coalition just seems unrealistic given the long standing animosity. I don't think we'll see early elections in Scotland but if we do I don't think it'll be just the one unless the polling shifts.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Congratulations on achieving Belgium.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Love a Coalition of Chaos I do

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

OwlFancier posted:

Congratulations on achieving Belgium.

ironically avoided the worst of 2008 austerity from the eu because they could never sort out a meeting with an agreed leader to impose it

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Failed Imagineer posted:

Love a Coalition of Chaos I do

Prospective FM must have name with same cadence as Ed Miliband, otherwise it's just sparkling disorder

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

WhatEvil posted:

On the other hand, their only solution seems to be "more urban sprawl". It's a real problem because just spreading out for miles in every direction and filling it with low density housing is super unsustainable. Those houses bring in less tax revenue than it takes to service all of the roads and other infrastructure needed to serve them - so higher density areas, which are mainly lived in by less well-off people, end up subisidising the suburbs (where richer people live) through their property taxes. What we need is density but Canadians are loving allergic to it*.

That said, more cities etc. (including I believe the province of Ontario where almost 40% of Canadians live) now seem to be passing amendments to their zoning laws which do things like give a blanket allowance for all existing lots to now have 3 housing units on them, allowing for densification. Of course you still have to have homeowners actually opt to add units onto their land which is expensive and difficult on many suburban lots. What we really need to do is stop building more developments which are solely full of single-family detached homes and build actual medium density developments.

Another thing that might make sense is to "do a Milton Keynes" and build a commuter town outside of Toronto, with a high-speed rail link... but Canadians are loving allergic to passenger rail too which is completely ludicrous considering the geography and spread-out nature of Canada.

*There's the possible exception of Montreal where mid-density housing exists and is good. If you didn't need to speak French to live there, I might consider it.

the zoning reregs in ontario is like the single good thing that's coming out of that shitstains office

the complete insane overreactions to high-speed rail are completely incomprehensible to me. plenty of people commute to toronto; when i lived in kw it was pretty common. at least there there exists a provincially run transit system that's affordable if not super fast.

i live in the other london now, and the train trips into toronto (~195km) are $73 day-of (one way) and like $40 if you can plan ahead a couple of weeks. complete insanity.

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive
it's believable but also i'd like to see some polling projections that aren't whatever statsforlefties has decided to pull out of their arse today

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
What I'm hearing is it's a perfect opportunity for a test run of a Lab-Con coalition.

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

Just Another Lurker posted:

When you get so poor that having clean stones to your house is an aspirational event. :suicide:

Also, I know it's unfair to pick 30p Lee up on this sort of thing, but he's evoking the "working class housewives cleaning their door steps" trope as a response to 'lefties complaining about filthy streets'.

Those women are cleaning their door steps as the public 'face' of their house. They're not scrubbing the pavement or the gutters or the street. That was done by the municipal corporation or the borough council or the district authority or whatever layer of byzantine pre-1972 British local government applied.

So yes, Lee, that was the local government's job as part of those quaint old ideas like 'functional public services' and 'civic pride' or even municipal socialism that used to exist but that you're not so keen to hark back to.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
Going to need to see Lee's own doorstep before I can pass final judgement.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

Paladinus posted:

What I'm hearing is it's a perfect opportunity for a test run of a Lab-Con coalition.

Already happens in local councils across Scotland

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde

big scary monsters posted:

Going to need to see Lee's own doorstep before I can pass final judgement.

Weird way of saying 'take a big poo poo'

Starbucks
Jul 7, 2002

Your daily cup of fuck you.

DeadButDelicious posted:

Y'all just sound like you're pitching a Rockwell Retro Encabulator to me. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w&pp=ygUeUm9ja3dlbGwgcHJvZHVjdCBwcmVzZW50YXRpb24g

This is what it’s like when I am in meetings about lab equipment procurement, sure, it does sequences and stuff, how do I get it’s stuff out to put it in to our other stuff I don’t know about lab gobbledegook. Lab/Con/LD lowlander coalition

Starbucks fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Apr 29, 2024

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

sinky posted:

Weird way of saying 'take a big poo poo'

Leeside Soafer.

BigHandsVince
Mar 30, 2007
Mamma Mia, my hands are huge!

Tesseraction posted:

Seems a lot of the party up in Scotland want John Swinney to take over. His wiki page doesn't suggest he's either good or terrible, so what is his actual röntgen?

He's my high school English teachers brother. He is pretty dull. The teacher had an affair with a Classics teacher and got her pregnant, that was the scandal at our school. His constant trips up 3 flights of stairs to "fill his kettle" in her classroom should have been a clue.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
The most interesting thing about John Swinney is that his brother fucks.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Captain Fargle posted:

I'm absolutely loving bricking it today at the idea of PIP payments being stopped. My whole family relies on it. Three of the four of us get PIP and I have a Motability vehicle because of them. Without it we're super hosed.

Could really use some reassurance today but nobody has any proper details.

Is this just something he's proposing as a campaign promise or is it like, something he's trying to force through next month? What the hell is happening?

Someone please talk me down. It's hard not to feel like my whole life is about to be utterly destroyed.

they're spaffing off to appeal to their psychotic base atm

don't let that poo poo in your head m8

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

BalloonFish posted:

So yes, Lee, that was the local government's job as part of those quaint old ideas like 'functional public services' and 'civic pride' or even municipal socialism that used to exist but that you're not so keen to hark back to.
Reminds me that I need to blast out the culverts down our street. Also reminds me that when the floods hit last year the only people that bothered coming out to help were the two Muslim brothers who run the hardware store and the priest from St Mary's. Everyone else just peered out their windows like we were some kind of perverts for doing some basic flood prevention work.

Tesseraction posted:

Leeside Soafer.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


BigHandsVince posted:

He's my high school English teachers brother. He is pretty dull. The teacher had an affair with a Classics teacher and got her pregnant, that was the scandal at our school. His constant trips up 3 flights of stairs to "fill his kettle" in her classroom should have been a clue.

I'm sorry, your high school had a classics department?

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib

BalloonFish posted:

Also, I know it's unfair to pick 30p Lee up on this sort of thing, but he's evoking the "working class housewives cleaning their door steps" trope as a response to 'lefties complaining about filthy streets'.

Those women are cleaning their door steps as the public 'face' of their house. They're not scrubbing the pavement or the gutters or the street. That was done by the municipal corporation or the borough council or the district authority or whatever layer of byzantine pre-1972 British local government applied.

So yes, Lee, that was the local government's job as part of those quaint old ideas like 'functional public services' and 'civic pride' or even municipal socialism that used to exist but that you're not so keen to hark back to.

What do we want to take from that era? Municipal power stations that sent waste heat to warm local homes? Nah.
Municipal water corporations run with a sense of community responsibility? Nah.
Housewives scrubbing doorsteps because that was one of the few politely visible parts of their home life they could affect and show pride in? Yeah!

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
When my mum was a kid in Newcastle in the late 50's/ early 60's, she had to scrub the front doorstep every week!

She said she never did see the point of it.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
the step was a wee part of the world you could control and keep nice and orderly and be smiled upon by others for its cleanliness, seems like

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
i do remember asking this question of entirely the wrong aunt when i was wee and i was told if the outside wasn't kept clean folk would think it was a fenian household :/

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Pope John would come around and do a big poo poo right on the step, in his full Pascal outfit.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Popes are like those fairies that come round your house if it isn't tidy enough and piss in your milk or something.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Bozza posted:

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

Except Android. Because Google hate freedom (but it didn't exist yet at the time of that rant)

BigHandsVince
Mar 30, 2007
Mamma Mia, my hands are huge!

forkboy84 posted:

I'm sorry, your high school had a classics department?

It was just one teacher, she also didn't seem that knowledgeable about it. Knew how to fill a kettle though apparently...

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Jakabite posted:

What's the advantage of Plex when I can just put stuff in my windows library and my telly detects it and lets me stream it over wifi?

You can load up the plex app on your tv and browse through your media Netflix style.

Well that and synch up across any device with the app installed.

So you can start something in the living room, continue watching part of it upstairs from where you left off and then watch the rest of it on the train to work or whatever.

I'm not that much of an a TV addict but having access to your content when you want it is kinda handy.

Kin fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Apr 29, 2024

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

Endjinneer posted:

What do we want to take from that era? Municipal power stations that sent waste heat to warm local homes? Nah.
Municipal water corporations run with a sense of community responsibility? Nah.
Housewives scrubbing doorsteps because that was one of the few politely visible parts of their home life they could affect and show pride in? Yeah!

The Lee Anderson-style "working class Toryism" really does as swing and miss on its idolisation of 'personal responsibility'.

Those women scrubbing their doorsteps were only two or three generations removed from their forebears who had experienced the ur-liberalism (as opposed to neo-liberalism) of the 19th century and knew exactly what 'personal responsibility' meant. Anderson thinks it means 'stop moaning, get a job, scrub your doorstep, clean your street'. The Victorian working class did take responsibility for their situation and their improvement. It's why they organised themselves into (illegal) trade unions, formed mutual associations and co-operatives and building societies. They elected people like Joe Chamberlain and Abel Heywood - people who would clear slums, improve sewage, build waterworks, erect street lights and plant parks - to municipal roles when they could. They had no parliamentary voice so they took responsibility for their collective improvement and progress by themselves.

"Take more personal responsibility...but not like that."

It's a bit like how you can short-circuit ancaps by asking them why unions - a free mutual agreement by colleagues to maximise the leverage of their position and extract maximum remuneration in the market for labour - aren't an expression of small government responsible citizenry.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

More importantly Lee wants that back because it's someone else doing the scrubbing.

Sad Panda
Sep 22, 2004

I'm a Sad Panda.

Kin posted:

You can load up the plex app on your tv and browse through your media Netflix style.

Well that and synch up across any device with the app installed.

So you can start something in the living room, continue watching part of it upstairs from where you left off and then watch the rest of it on the train to work or whatever.

I'm not that much of an a TV addict but having access to your content when you want it is kinda handy.

Can also set up a Plex server and share it with people as your own version of Netflix with all your family home videos on it.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
JUST WUNT MA CUNTREH BAK

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
country didn't go anywhere

you're making it loving miserable to be in :mad:

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Guavanaut posted:

Pope John would come around and do a big poo poo right on the step, in his full Pascal outfit.

So that's why people are always talking about Pope's sitting in the woods, and bears being Catholic.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/aidThompsin/status/1784906244102238466

lol

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Still keep passing that "where has my country gone" sign on the 174, lol.

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